**Official Terminator 3 Review Thread**

[XZeroII]

I saw it on the 4th and thought it was excellent. Definatly a worthy successor. I think they played pretty much all the right cards on this one. It wasn't too much action, not too much talking and it held very true to the previous 2. I loved the ending, how you think they're going to destroy skynet, but are infact led to a bunker. That was very unexpected and I can't wait to see 4 (assuming they make it...and don't wait 10 years to make it). Overall, I give it a 9.5/10. I can't think of anything they could have improved.

 

[abc]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Few question: If Skynet is indeed software based and is dependent on a grid of computers to operate, then how come it doesn't disappear into oblivion itself when it nukes the crap out of every major city on earth? Given that these nukes will release enough electromagnetic radiation to kill any computer system (not to mention the power grids will all be destroyed), wouldn't that in effect be suicide for skynet as well? Also, once all the major cities and medium sized ones are nuked by skynet, how is it able to send control signals out to other basically useless robots (robots in this day and age are barely as sophisticated as a cockroach and likely would have been destroyed in the nuclear fall-out anyway) to start constructing assembly lines for future Ti models? I'm assuming those Ti's it unleashed at the military base get destroyed in the nuclear fall-out. Lastly, wouldn't it be logical to assume that whoever programmed skynet purposely added the ability for it to do this sort of thing? Software just doesn't do anything on its own if it's not programmed to do so beforehand, no matter how complex it is.

i agree, good points there...

i also thought the same about the oneliners, that somebody else already mentioned. they seem too forced and setup, and too many of them.

and the car keys in the visor, or the zero human casualties... yet John Conner says he'd have to teach him everything over again, seems contradictory.

i also agree, how the heck did they get into a ultra secure military compound... you'd think they'd be severely delayed even Terminator has to bust his way through the complex to get them to the dad.

didn't like the leukemia ending mom's role in the movie.

Don't like this Stahl actor, looks like a dweeb, like a mtv or a fast and furious drone.


anyone knowwhy they didnt bring back Richard Furlong... did he even audition? was he not even approached? maybe because of his acohol problems in real life.... he's got baggy eyes these days.

i figure since it's 10yrs since T2, Richard is about the same age as they want JohnConner to be in T3 so it would be good... and since they wrote JohnConner in T3 to be this wanderer, messed up sloppy drinking guy... why not have Furlong just play him.

As for Arnold, he looked huge when he was crotched and naked but didn't look so when wearing the jacket for the rest of the movie. anybody a regular with muscle fitness magazines the past few months, did they ever run a feature on him pumping up again for the movie.

as for the

 

[Kyteland]

Originally posted by: abc

as for the

OMG, he left his post hanging, just like the movie! Will my torture never end?

 

[Shawn]

Originally posted by: Kyteland

Originally posted by: abc

as for the

OMG, he left his post hanging, just like the movie! Will my torture never end?

doesn't look like it, sorry.

I thought the movie rocked. T2 was still slightly better though.

 

[Rufio]

arnold will always be a buff mofo -- he'lll be buffer at 80 than we will ever be!

 

[idNut]

I actually really liked the movie. The only down points was there was a tad bit too much comedy and I have to say the music SUCKED! Well, it didn't suck but it wasn't there! Brad Fidel made it evident and kick-ass but Marco Beltrami was too quiet and it seems he didn't want to use Terminator's kick-ass theme song. Glad to see Dr. Silverman and Stan Winston came back to make the trilogy. I'm also glad to see the end of the world came. (Did I understand the ending correct?) Anyway, I give it a solid 3 out of 4 stars for extreme action that topped The Matrix: Reloaded.

 

[alphatarget1]

*SPOILERS*






























arnold said the following that leads me to believe there will be a T4. He told them that he/some other T-800 (or 1000? i dont remember) killed john connor.

he also said "we will meet again" before they moved down to the bunker.

as for the whole skynet nuke scenario, remember before the airforce general (hmm, what's the girl's name again) activated skynet, a whole bunch of military division stuff popped up? maybe they're just sending nukes to nuke the military, they don't necessary have to nuke major cities.

 

[poopaskoopa]

The movie was lame. The villain in this one is the worst among the series. The Connor character doesn't have that troubled youth mojo from T2. Claire Dane's character isn't as interesting as Sarah Connors. Sure, the action sequences are great, but what else would I expect from today's action movies that cost bazillion dollars these days. I guess I liked the ending, but I don't care about the series any more.

 

[Afro000Dude]

I think Skynet = Napster. It is widespread: "In every living room, in every dorm room..." something to that effect was said in the movie. There is no central server. There is no way to stop it... they should have had the RIAA and Lars Ulrich slap a lawsuit on Skynet.... why didn't they think of that??

 

[filmmaker]

Originally posted by: brunswickite

Originally posted by: bunker
Just saw it as well.



When Arnold and the T-X are fighting toward the end of the movie he has her in a bear hug. She simply melts her legs away and turns completely around on him.

So in the end when her legs are stuck under the chopper, why didn't she just do the same?

Little inconsistencies like that bug the crap out of me.

I agree

also
Arnold in the truck and getting the keys off the visor, he learned that in the 2nd one
Arnold in the cemetery, with "No human Casualties"

That's what makes it funny and ironic.

And her changing shape with Arnold holding her is different than her being crushed by a mount steel and concrete.

 

[filmmaker]

I also didn't like the slo-mo effect they used throughout the movie.

I agree. It totally took me out of the movie every time it happened. Like they needed to tell us that this was when something dramtic was going to happen.

 

[filmmaker]

i also thought the same about the oneliners, that somebody else already mentioned. they seem too forced and setup, and too many of them.

and the car keys in the visor, or the zero human casualties... yet John Conner says he'd have to teach him everything over again, seems contradictory.

i also agree, how the heck did they get into a ultra secure military compound... you'd think they'd be severely delayed even Terminator has to bust his way through the complex to get them to the dad.

didn't like the leukemia ending mom's role in the movie.

Don't like this Stahl actor, looks like a dweeb, like a mtv or a fast and furious drone.

anyone knowwhy they didnt bring back Richard Furlong... did he even audition? was he not even approached? maybe because of his acohol problems in real life.... he's got baggy eyes these days.

i figure since it's 10yrs since T2, Richard is about the same age as they want JohnConner to be in T3 so it would be good... and since they wrote JohnConner in T3 to be this wanderer, messed up sloppy drinking guy... why not have Furlong just play him.

As for Arnold, he looked huge when he was crotched and naked but didn't look so when wearing the jacket for the rest of the movie. anybody a regular with muscle fitness magazines the past few months, did they ever run a feature on him pumping up again for the movie.

as for the

I think the key in the visor was just set up as instinct. Like the Terminator somehow knew to do that. I thought it was funny.

I'm sure they shot Arnold and the others getting into the compound but edited it out.

They had to kill of Hamilton somehow because she wouldn't do the movie without Cameron.

Stahl is a great actor. I thought he did a great job.

Richard Furlong = Edward Furlong. Word on the street is that he likes the drugs a lot. Not doing much acting these days.

I heard a lot about Arnold pumping up on TV. I didn't see it in many magazines, though.

 

[brigden]

I walked into this film with no expectations. I even managed to avoid the hype, if there was any. I came out satisfied; it was an enjoyable action flick.

My biggest concern was that Arnold would let me down. He didn't. I was impressed with his performance.

I have three core complaints:

One, I didn't care much for Danes and Stahl. Neither seemed convincing. Stahl, despite his character's history, seemed too relaxed throughout the entire movie, and Danes too easily accepted the tragic events surrounding her. There was never a moment of, "Oh my god, this can't be happening." There was no panic.

Two, the female Terminator, or Terminatrix, might have seemed like the obvious thing to do, but the character didn't really appeal to me. She wasn't menacing enough, and as a result, not very terrifying.

Lastly, my biggest issue with this film was its total and utter lack of tension (this is related to the first two issues I have). The appeal of the first two films was the sense of urgency created by the tension. The theme in this trilogy seems to be the chase; the protagonists running from the Terminator. The first two films had us biting our nails, hoping our heroes would manage to escape the evil machine's grasp.

What happened to the tension? Was it Cameron's absence? Maybe. It was definitely missing from Danes and Stahl's performances, and definitely missing from the presence of the female Terminator.

It was a good action flick. I enjoyed it, but it didn't hook me like T2 did.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: brigden
I walked into this film with no expectations. I even managed to avoid the hype, if there was any. I came out satisfied; it was an enjoyable action flick.

My biggest concern was that Arnold would let me down. He didn't. I was impressed with his performance.

I have three core complaints:

One, I didn't care much for Danes and Stahl. Neither seemed convincing. Stahl, despite his character's history, seemed too relaxed throughout the entire movie, and Danes too easily accepted the tragic events surrounding her. There was never a moment of, "Oh my god, this can't be happening." There was no panic.

Two, the female Terminator, or Terminatrix, might have seemed like the obvious thing to do, but the character didn't really appeal to me. She wasn't menacing enough, and as a result, not very terrifying.

Lastly, my biggest issue with this film was its total and utter lack of tension (this is related to the first two issues I have). The appeal of the first two films was the sense of urgency created by the tension. The theme in this trilogy seems to be the chase; the protagonists running from the Terminator. The first two films had us biting our nails, hoping our heroes would manage to escape the evil machine's grasp.

What happened to the tension? Was it Cameron's absence? Maybe. It was definitely missing from Danes and Stahl's performances, and definitely missing from the presence of the female Terminator.

It was a good action flick. I enjoyed it, but it didn't hook me like T2 did.

What I did after watching T3 (admittedly I have a bootleg of it too so I can "review" things I missed in the theatre) is put on my T2 DVD for comparison and I must say T3 pales in comparison. It was definitely missing everything you said in addition to plot substance. They just cut the film too short, perhaps instead of focusing so much on CG, they should've developed the plot a little better, hell more dialogue never hurt! Maybe this was targetted at today's short attention span teenagers though so it probably fits--T2 was over 10 yrs ago, different time, different generation.

 

[MustangSVT]

My question Since T2..

How come Arnie's terminator is supposed to be "OUTDATED" and less effective.. yet it kills new versions everytime???




I thought it was great!


never tried to be uptight action thriller but more of a goodtime action flick with right amount of humor for me .

I laughed out loud about 10 times and the evil girl is very hot .

for me the funniest scene was when arnie goes into a strip club to get the clothes...

male dancer " wait your turn b!tch"
arnie "Take of your clothes"
M.D "Talk to the hand"
Arnie -crushes m.d.'s hand- "NOW"

Good stuff..

hmm ill go back to read the thread.. but i missed how terminator kills John conner in the future? edit - ahh.. i got it now

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: filmmaker

i also thought the same about the oneliners, that somebody else already mentioned. they seem too forced and setup, and too many of them.

and the car keys in the visor, or the zero human casualties... yet John Conner says he'd have to teach him everything over again, seems contradictory.

i also agree, how the heck did they get into a ultra secure military compound... you'd think they'd be severely delayed even Terminator has to bust his way through the complex to get them to the dad.

didn't like the leukemia ending mom's role in the movie.

Don't like this Stahl actor, looks like a dweeb, like a mtv or a fast and furious drone.

anyone knowwhy they didnt bring back Richard Furlong... did he even audition? was he not even approached? maybe because of his acohol problems in real life.... he's got baggy eyes these days.

i figure since it's 10yrs since T2, Richard is about the same age as they want JohnConner to be in T3 so it would be good... and since they wrote JohnConner in T3 to be this wanderer, messed up sloppy drinking guy... why not have Furlong just play him.

As for Arnold, he looked huge when he was crotched and naked but didn't look so when wearing the jacket for the rest of the movie. anybody a regular with muscle fitness magazines the past few months, did they ever run a feature on him pumping up again for the movie.

as for the

I think the key in the visor was just set up as instinct. Like the Terminator somehow knew to do that. I thought it was funny.

I'm sure they shot Arnold and the others getting into the compound but edited it out.

They had to kill of Hamilton somehow because she wouldn't do the movie without Cameron.

Stahl is a great actor. I thought he did a great job.

Richard Furlong = Edward Furlong. Word on the street is that he likes the drugs a lot. Not doing much acting these days.

I heard a lot about Arnold pumping up on TV. I didn't see it in many magazines, though.

The key in the visor and no human casualties could have been programmed into the new Terminator by John Connor's wife. No doubt he regaled her with stories of his youth (from T2) and she decided to apply what she had learned.

 

[AnyMal]

I was overall impressed with the movie. I thought it provided a smooth transition from T2, the story was plausible and flashbacks were clever.

Favorite one-liner:

Danes: Drop dead a$$hole!
Arnold: I am unable to comply

 

[KeyserSoze]

I liked it a LOT. I thought it was a great film, and definitely won me over as a "Terminator" sequel.

I LOVED the one action scene where the crane is chasing Connor, and Arnold drops the hook/wench into the ManHole. That was Beautiful!!!!

As for the people speculating on a T4, I don't get it. Why would there be a T4??? Isn't it supposed to go on now as the story says. Robots take over, Humans lead a resistance, Connors takes charge? I'm confused.

I would love for there to be a T4 tho.




KeyserSoze

 

[bulldawg]

Saw it yesterday and was completely disappointed.

 

[Spac3d]

It was good, but it wasn't as good as T2.

T2 is in my top 5 movies of all time, a definte 10/10. T3 would be an 8/10 - outrageous car chase scene

 

[tk149]

T2 > T1 > T3

T1 - The ultimate anti-hero. "It never stops" WTF does it take to kill this thing?

T2 - WTF does it take to stop this thing? Even the T101 and a truck full of liquid nitrogen can't stop it! What totally cool special effects! Great character development (Terminator, John Connor, Sarah Connor).

T3 - Been there, done that. Ho hum. Geez, it gets crushed by some concrete and steel, and it has to pull its own legs off? Bring back the T-1000! John Connor goes from being a loser wimp to being a loser wimp with a hot chick and a great responsibility. <Yawn>

As mentioned previously, the tension in the first two movies is completely missing in T3. As soon as I saw the first plasma pack explode, I knew how the T-X was gonna die.

The only interesting thing in T3 was how they touched on time theory - how fate may be fluid, but is still unavoidable. Oh yeah, the Boobages were nice too.

I didn't expect much from T3 since Cameron didn't direct it, but I was hoping for better. I left the theater feeling unfulfilled.

BTW, I thought maybe a good idea for a videogame would be where you play a character that helps John Connor defeat Skynet, and participate in the events that lead up to sending the T1 and T2 back in time. I think it would make a better game than a movie (since we all know what will happen).

 

[ericlp]

ooops

 

[XMan]

Originally posted by: brunswickite

Originally posted by: bunker
Just saw it as well.



When Arnold and the T-X are fighting toward the end of the movie he has her in a bear hug. She simply melts her legs away and turns completely around on him.

So in the end when her legs are stuck under the chopper, why didn't she just do the same?

Little inconsistencies like that bug the crap out of me.

I agree

also
Arnold in the truck and getting the keys off the visor, he learned that in the 2nd one
Arnold in the cemetery, with "No human Casualties"

He didn't get keys from the visor, he got a watch. He hotwired the truck.

The no human casualties I'm sure was a program from Kate.

 

[AnyMal]

Originally posted by: X-Man

Originally posted by: brunswickite

Originally posted by: bunker
Just saw it as well.



When Arnold and the T-X are fighting toward the end of the movie he has her in a bear hug. She simply melts her legs away and turns completely around on him.

So in the end when her legs are stuck under the chopper, why didn't she just do the same?

Little inconsistencies like that bug the crap out of me.

I agree

also
Arnold in the truck and getting the keys off the visor, he learned that in the 2nd one
Arnold in the cemetery, with "No human Casualties"

He didn't get keys from the visor, he got a watch. He hotwired the truck.

The no human casualties I'm sure was a program from Kate.

Yes he did get the keys from the visor, but after he hptwired the car. It was just a goof from T2.

 

[XMan]

Originally posted by: AnyMal

Originally posted by: X-Man

Originally posted by: brunswickite

Originally posted by: bunker
Just saw it as well.



When Arnold and the T-X are fighting toward the end of the movie he has her in a bear hug. She simply melts her legs away and turns completely around on him.

So in the end when her legs are stuck under the chopper, why didn't she just do the same?

Little inconsistencies like that bug the crap out of me.

I agree

also
Arnold in the truck and getting the keys off the visor, he learned that in the 2nd one
Arnold in the cemetery, with "No human Casualties"

He didn't get keys from the visor, he got a watch. He hotwired the truck.

The no human casualties I'm sure was a program from Kate.

Yes he did get the keys from the visor, but after he hptwired the car. It was just a goof from T2.

I saw no keys in the visor - it was a watch that he calibrated his internal clock with.