**Official Terminator 3 Review Thread**

[ericlp]

Originally posted by: ericlp
I was bummed... Saw it yesterday... Tho the wife liked it...

Arnold Schwarzenegger is a has been... No real acting from any of them. Basically they put way too much time and effort into showing the same crap from T2, Only thing is T2 was original and a lot of a better plot/movie.

One of the worst parts is how the TX got on the CELL phone and started speaking digital... OK, Maybe... But even the fastest cellphone at 14.4 wouldn't d/l all that crap in seconds... you would think she was on a full T1!!!

They did the same thing were arnie and TX come through time and they all do the match / no match bs... Even the stupid doctor gets a couple of lines in. But, as if they have a psycho doctor in back of every cop car. Movie was flat and predictable.

About the only good thing were the special effects. Oh well, I thought the Matrix was better. Even tho, it sucked too...

Matrix **/half stars.

T3 ** two stars for effort. Even tho it makes my Toy Truck look good! Now you know why they are so expensive! Sigh...

 

[Wuffsunie]

Originally posted by: FallenHero

Originally posted by: bolido2000
The part I didn't get is why the father lie about the location of Skynet. I doubt he could have analysed the situation at that moment given the circunstances. Also, how come there is no some kind of wireless protocol for T-X to comunicate with other terminators?

there is no location of skynet. Its a program, not a piece of hardware. Her father knew that and realized that there was no chance for them, so he sent them to a safe location.

Totally wrong. Listen to the father when he's discussing the virus with the rest of his team in the first or second of those scenes. He mentions the military wants to hook up the Skynet AI to the internet and have it eliminate the virus. That means it DOES have some sort of centralized processing components. Or at least it did at the time. Considering the rate at which it processed data they must have had some MASSIVE pipes hooked up to it, so transfer to other systems is not impossible. Still, it would be a HUGE mother program, based on what we know about AI now. And whose to say it didn't require specialized processing components? CERTAINLY not a far stretch as Terminators themselves inspired the neural-net CPU Skynet was based on. Somehow I doubt that's x86 compatible

I like that it became a distrubted system through the virus (that can't be anything besides a remote control mechanism) to facilitate it's take over, but agree with those who said its blowing up of the cities and thereby the destruction of a good part of the global telecommunications infrastructure was a poor move. The other thing I want to know is what it uses to reach out and build things? Sure, it has control of the remote units in its original facility, but where does it get the stuff to build anything else? Never understood that about the orignal concept either

As for the movie itself, I thought it was an okay action movie, but a poor Terminator sequel. It wasn't just Cameron's direction that I missed on this one but his WRITING. Never forget that he wrote the first two movies. They were his babbies. The lackluster story and plotholes in this one (their getting into the lab with the terminator and their bag of weapons was the biggest "WTF?!" moment of the movie for me) really killed it for me.

Nick Stahl also played a poor Conner. You'd think that even 6 years after missing Judgement Day he'd have more of a 'scrote than he shows here. Hell, the scene with him and the Terminator in the truck, when the chase scene ends, I'd have been ragging on the Termintor for a sit-rep. "WTF are you doing here?! We killed Skynet! What happened?" That would be a future leader of humanity!

And for those that asked why the terminator in the future killed Conner... what, you don't think Skynet would have had a few of them programmed and sent out with that idea even after it knew it would be defeated? Just look at Iraq. Main conflict is offically over there, but they're still cleaning up enemy soldiers.

Anyway, that's enough for now. I give this movie a 6.5/10 myself. Good on it's own, but a poor entry to the series.

-- Jack Kain

 

[BennyD]

Saw it on friday

my interpretation of:

Skynet:

Skynet was not the virus, they had already developed skynet and had it running on a seperate system.
When the virus took over the military stuff, they tried to use skynet to remove it by letting it into thier military systems.
Skynet then was able to expand through the military network, enabling it to be self aware almost instantaniously (maybe it managed to get onto a supercomputer).

It may have been the TX that was resposible for skynet becoming self aware (through infecting the T1's with nano's).

5150Joker: skynet learns, it reprograms itself, it probably reprogrammed itself to do what it did. Imagine you create a man, you say he cannot kill you and he can't, but what about his kids?

John Conners death:

As I understood, skynet sent an arnie (T101?) to kill john but programmed him to earn his trust, knowing that he had an attatchment to them.
After he killed John the terminator was useless and shut down or something.
Then when Kate found he was dead, she reprogrammed the arnie to go back and saev her and john (no idea why, hopefully explained in T4).

the T-X:

just to clarify one small point everyone seems to have wrong...

the TX is NOT the same as the T1000 (liquid metal), it is liquid metal over an endo-skeleton (endoskel).

this is why after the TX is stuck to the magnet it appears as just the endoskel, as the liquid metal is still on the magnet.
When she has her leg stuck under the chopper, it's caught her endoskel.


Arnie "learning"

everything he does that is similar to the arnie from the second film might have been programmed by Kate before he was sent back, like maybe it's the default program they load onto them.


overall, good film

i think alot of people seem to think that T2 was the best film ever, but it wasn't as highly praised when it came out.