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cubby1223

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May 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: Crono
Originally posted by: Kalmah
My mother-in-law works for The CDC. She got called into the "war room" as she calls it on Saturday and was their most of the day. I've never seen her have to do anything like this before.

That doesn't sound good. Maybe CDC knows something we don't?

The CDC knows we live in the age of 24/7 cable news channels.
 

invidia

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If I start purposely sneezing and coughing onto other people, am I a biological weapon?



Or an ass?
 

Newbian

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Originally posted by: invidia
If I start purposely sneezing and coughing onto other people, am I a biological weapon?



Or an ass?

Both, but mainly a ass. ;)
 

Fingolfin269

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Feb 28, 2003
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I spent Saturday night at a casino and work at a place with about 10K people 5 days a week. I may be screwed.
 

hanoverphist

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Originally posted by: boomerang
Clearly, this is another failure of the Bush administration. His failure to anticipate this and develop a vaccine is just criminal.

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
John McCain would have never let this happen. Tree hugging liberal media is to blame~!

these made me giggle


i was hoping for a poll choice of "swine what?" since i didnt even hear about this until last nite. im not too worried yet.
 
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I look at the numbers. So what, 40 cases in the US. 300+ million people in the US. More people will die in a day from infections from a rusty nail than the swine flu.
It's scare tactics and we're sure to hear more about universal health care to combat such "looming pandemic threats".
 

Gibsons

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Aug 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
I look at the numbers. So what, 40 cases in the US. 300+ million people in the US. More people will die in a day from infections from a rusty nail than the swine flu.
It's scare tactics and we're sure to hear more about universal health care to combat such "looming pandemic threats".

The 1918 Spanish flu started small also. Didn't stop til several million were dead.

I don't think this will be a repeat of that, but there will be a another large pandemic at some point, we just can't predict when.
 

LilPima

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A man in my office was in Mexico Thursday and Friday (back here now). Since I have no immunity, I'm avoiding him like... the swine flu!

(I voted yes to scurred)
 

RU482

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Apr 9, 2000
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I repair computer products from customers around the country. I am wondering...if an infected person sneezed on a computer, then sent it in for repair, how long can the virus remain infectious on the shipped items before it is not a risk?
 

FelixDeCat

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Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: RU482
I repair computer products from customers around the country. I am wondering...if an infected person sneezed on a computer, then sent it in for repair, how long can the virus remain infectious on the shipped items before it is not a risk?

I think it has to be live for you to get it, but dont hold me to that.
 

iamwiz82

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Jan 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
I look at the numbers. So what, 40 cases in the US. 300+ million people in the US. More people will die in a day from infections from a rusty nail than the swine flu.
It's scare tactics and we're sure to hear more about universal health care to combat such "looming pandemic threats".

The 1918 Spanish flu started small also. Didn't stop til several million were dead.

I don't think this will be a repeat of that, but there will be a another large pandemic at some point, we just can't predict when.

The first 25 weeks of the 1918 influenza pandemic killed as many as 40 million people world wide. Scary stuff, especially when you think about how much less connected everything was back then.
 

destrekor

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Nov 18, 2005
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Originally posted by: randay
You can tell if you have swine flu if you taste delicious.

bleh! I still taste like human. I am disappoint. Though I do taste clean. :)
 

zoiks

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Jan 13, 2000
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I was going to take a fishing trip on May 21st to Cabo. Dunno what I'm gonna do now.
 

TehMac

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
I look at the numbers. So what, 40 cases in the US. 300+ million people in the US. More people will die in a day from infections from a rusty nail than the swine flu.
It's scare tactics and we're sure to hear more about universal health care to combat such "looming pandemic threats".

The 1918 Spanish flu started small also. Didn't stop til several million were dead.

I don't think this will be a repeat of that, but there will be a another large pandemic at some point, we just can't predict when.

The first 25 weeks of the 1918 influenza pandemic killed as many as 40 million people world wide. Scary stuff, especially when you think about how much less connected everything was back then.

Streets were a lot dirtier back then. And people weren't hermits, there was about as much traveling and back and forth frolicking then as there is now.
 

njdevilsfan87

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I'm not going to lie... I'm a bit worried. I am a young healthy individual - my immune system would have no problem with the common flu. But when there's one going around that makes your immune system turn on you, this is of serious concern to most of us on this message board because of that age group we fall into.
 

FelixDeCat

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Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: zoiks
I was going to take a fishing trip on May 21st to Cabo. Dunno what I'm gonna do now.

Whens the latest you can cancel w/o getting a penalty? It should be safe enough to go, but Ill bet youll have a lingering worry the whole time. ;)
 

destrekor

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Nov 18, 2005
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Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
I look at the numbers. So what, 40 cases in the US. 300+ million people in the US. More people will die in a day from infections from a rusty nail than the swine flu.
It's scare tactics and we're sure to hear more about universal health care to combat such "looming pandemic threats".

The 1918 Spanish flu started small also. Didn't stop til several million were dead.

I don't think this will be a repeat of that, but there will be a another large pandemic at some point, we just can't predict when.

There will always be pandemics, especially with how global we are compared to previous ones. One report I had read stated that for the past 300 years, there have been 3 pandemics per century.

What will suck is if this swine flu spreads like wildfire, and then shortly thereafter, say less than a decade, the real Avian Flu mutates.

It is suggested that the current swine flu might be a mix of swine and avian flu, however like swine and humans, birds are susceptible to more than one strain. The Avian flu pandemic worries are over Influenza A H5N1, not the swine flu hitting right now, which is influenza A H1N1. And apparently, while H1N1 is common in both humans and pigs, the specific protein/genetic makeup are completely new to us, and we weren't apparently aware that that specific strain makeup was even in North American swine.

And that is what makes a flu more lethal than the ordinary flu, even in healthy adults (as have been killed in Mexico from the flu), is when the strain is so foreign to us that our bodies just have no natural immunity to us.

We essentially have a form of immunity to the various strains we typically encounter, sometimes a different strain hits and we actually get 'sick', but it resembles enough of what we are immune to that our body can eventually get rid of it through the natural responses, which is the symptoms we experience and we refer to as illness. The virus doesn't really cause most of the symptoms, rather our body does trying to get rid of it.

Our body will try and fight this one off, but it appears even healthy adults are still failing to rid the body of it.
Cases have already doubled in a day, and that's just as people begin to feel the virus (incubation rates), and begin to suspect it as something other than an ordinary flu or other bug.

A school system somewhere near my sister in Texas just closed down for a week due to more cases. I fear as cases begin to increase here in the states we might not get so lucky as we are right now - cases are doubling and more trickle in, but so far some have already begun to recover.
 

destrekor

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Nov 18, 2005
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Originally posted by: njdevilsfan87
I'm not going to lie... I'm a bit worried. I am a young healthy individual - my immune system would have no problem with the common flu. But when there's one going around that makes your immune system turn on you, this is of serious concern to most of us on this message board because of that age group we fall into.

Yeah I can't lie either - I like to hold the idea in my head that 'im a young, healthy person - i'll be able to handle anything that comes my way'... well, in the back of my mind, I'm quite a bit worried. Specially as cases are popping up around where my sister lives in Texas, one confirmed case here in Ohio already, and one potential case relatively close to my parents home. I fear the spread south into Central Ohio, as well... I attend the largest university in the country (OSU), one gets the illness, it's going to spread.
And with it being a school - a lot of people go home for the weekend, visit family and whatnot. Just takes someone going north, getting the virus, feeling fine for a few days as they mingle about campus and go to class, then boom - outbreak on campus. :(

And in fact, I don't think I really have a super strong immune system. I don't know if its a weak immune system, or viruses are easily able to get me sick simply due to have terrible sinuses (i'm plagued by a sinus infection basically annually, sometimes twice in a year), and often I'll get a sinus infection, and wind up with the flu. Once I was recovering from a sinus infection, got the flu, healed, and the sinus infection sprung into high gear toward the end of recovery from the flu. Oh that was a terrible 6-7 weeks.

I get the flu about annually as well. And I'm scurred, I haven't had a flu this year iirc - had a sinus infection a few months ago though.
 

paulney

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A client from Asia just canceled an overseas visit on us, because of the swine flu. Fuuuuu......
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: njdevilsfan87
I'm not going to lie... I'm a bit worried. I am a young healthy individual - my immune system would have no problem with the common flu. But when there's one going around that makes your immune system turn on you, this is of serious concern to most of us on this message board because of that age group we fall into.

Yeah I can't lie either - I like to hold the idea in my head that 'im a young, healthy person - i'll be able to handle anything that comes my way'... well, in the back of my mind, I'm quite a bit worried. Specially as cases are popping up around where my sister lives in Texas, one confirmed case here in Ohio already, and one potential case relatively close to my parents home. I fear the spread south into Central Ohio, as well... I attend the largest university in the country (OSU), one gets the illness, it's going to spread.
And with it being a school - a lot of people go home for the weekend, visit family and whatnot. Just takes someone going north, getting the virus, feeling fine for a few days as they mingle about campus and go to class, then boom - outbreak on campus. :(

And in fact, I don't think I really have a super strong immune system. I don't know if its a weak immune system, or viruses are easily able to get me sick simply due to have terrible sinuses (i'm plagued by a sinus infection basically annually, sometimes twice in a year), and often I'll get a sinus infection, and wind up with the flu. Once I was recovering from a sinus infection, got the flu, healed, and the sinus infection sprung into high gear toward the end of recovery from the flu. Oh that was a terrible 6-7 weeks.

I get the flu about annually as well. And I'm scurred, I haven't had a flu this year iirc - had a sinus infection a few months ago though.

Everyone one college campuses should be extra cautious and follow proper sanitation procedures.