OFFICIAL "Survivor: Redemption Island" THREAD.

[Capt Caveman]

Exactly. I don't believe Russell is upset just for losing, he doesn't care about or need the money, he's there only for the game and to fuck with people. He's more upset that he was outed simply because he is Russell and that he didn't go out in style legitimately by being beat by the game itself. Hes the type of personality like myself whos ego needs logical justification for losing and needs to lose in fierce competition to the death by being unmistakably and definitively out skilled for it to be satisfying, not by hollow meaningless fluke bullshit.

I can just picture him with a grin of disbelief and shaking his head, and beating himself up for not seeing it coming, if he'd had been blind sided or beat in the game. He's in it for the thrill and drama, and there was no thill or drama involved in how he lost. It was a weak and hollow defeat with no substance. Its like your sports team forfeiting rather than playing and getting their ass beat legit.

Like he said, he lost before the game started simply because he is Russell, not because he lost the game... well except for the duel, he fucked that up himself lol. I yelled out "dumb ass worry about your own shit, don't stop and turn around to watch Matts attempt"

Sounds like you and Russell want a play a different game than the one that's played in Survivor. Russell could only play one part of the game and failed at the rest. Blind-sided by the immunity challenge forfeit, blind-sided by the vote and couldn't beat Matt in the immunity challenge.

If he wasn't a dink, he wouldn't have been such an arrogant ass again and would have learned from his past failures that he needs to win over more members of his tribe.

 

[purbeast0]

They know Rob found the idol? Didn't Kristina get voted out lastnight?

rob stole the clue and didn't tell anyone, and he is still in the game. did the same exact thing that russell did.

 

[exdeath]

Sounds like you and Russell want a play a different game than the one that's played in Survivor. Russell could only play one part of the game and failed at the rest. Blind-sided by the immunity challenge forfeit, blind-sided by the vote and couldn't beat Matt in the immunity challenge.

If he wasn't a dink, he wouldn't have been such an arrogant ass again and would have learned from his past failures that he needs to win over more members of his tribe.

He didn't get that chance because of prior knowledge. He hadn't acted like an ass yet to anyone yet. He lied about the clue just like the others lied about stuff too, he just got penalized more for it because it was Russell doing it and not Joe Schmoe. Anyone else can lie and get away with because they don't know each other and take a chance. Haters gonna hate.

He wasnt blind sided either, he knew they were gunning for him, knew what was up immediately at the challenge, he knew exactly what the votes were going to be and he knew his chances were slim without converting one person. But a 1% chance is a 1% chance. He is an arrogant asshole for sure, but he is definitely not stupid and clueless.

He lost the duel fair and square, that's it.

 

[Dr. Detroit]

rob stole the clue and didn't tell anyone, and he is still in the game. did the same exact thing that russell did.

Difference is that they witnessed Russel steal the clue in an aggressive manor and then proceed to lie. The strong 6 then played the game by forcing a tie just in case he found the idol and the "hick" beat Russel at his own game by finding the clue first.

I'd say Russel was Outplayed!

 

[JujuFish]

*snip*

Wow, that's a long rant that makes few points. Russell lost, and he lost legitimately. It's laughable to state otherwise. He said one thing, did another. Same old Russell, and the rest of the tribe didn't want that kind of cancer around so they got rid of him.

 

[exdeath]

Wow, that's a long rant that makes few points. Russell lost, and he lost legitimately. It's laughable to state otherwise. He said one thing, did another. Same old Russell, and the rest of the tribe didn't want that kind of cancer around so they got rid of him.

Cancer is a million times easier to get rid of when you know about it 15 years sooner and know specifically to look for it and where, tell that to people who only discover it when its too late. Hindsight is 20/20.

Same old Russell...exactly, they knew already about "the same old Russell" in advance, the other tribes didn't have the luxury of a magic crystal ball that told them who to watch closely and get rid of right away or what to expect and they got played hard and caught by surprise, that's how the game is supposed to be played.

Hard to play cards when the other players can see your hand but you can't see theirs.

Dont get me wrong, if I was there Id want him out fast too before he had a chance to do his thing and control the tribe, I'm just saying it's still not fair to know who you should have gotten rid of until the end, not in advance two seconds in. Why don't we just know who to pick as the winner too right away and just cut straight to it?

Look into the future, find out who the winner is, throw another competition, and vote that person out next, right?

 

[PowerEngineer]

Well, I suppose there has to be a Russell apologist in every Survivor thread. :\

If he (and you) was somehow surprised that his tribe wasn't exactly anxious to keep him around, then I'd say Russell obviously isn't the great game player that some make him out to be. (As if his total obliviousness to the importance of jury voting wasn't enough proof already.)

Yes, I do respect the grit and tenacity he showed in his first season. It was fun to watch him weasel his way to safety week after week, but it had me thinking how poorly his fellow castaways were playing the game -- not how well he was playing it. His "win" was seeing those that were targeting him eliminated one by one; but there is no way you can expect any votes from the jury when you've double-crossed every one of them. Get real! You need to come across as a lovable scoudrel (e.g. Hans Solo), not the epitamy of evil (e.g. Darth Vadar).

The notion that some sort of respect for the game and/or fair play should have obligated his new tribe members to feign ignorance of the way Russell has played the game (and his tribe) in earlier seasons is absolutely absurd.

Ask yourself: "What would Russell do?" Or better yet: "What has Russell done?" What happened to him is just the kind of thing that Russell would have happily done to anyone else given the opportunity (as he has proved so many times in past seasons)! And if he had, Russell's fans would be touting this as another example of his savvy game playing skills!

It's fitting that Russell's demise has a "what goes around comes around" feel to it.

 

[Homerboy]

Kristina's fake boobs and that firefighters SUPER close eyes freak me out.

 

[trmiv]

Finally watched this episode. So glad Russell is gone, can't stand him. Him and Rob play very similar games, but the difference is Rob is likable and knows how to play people to his side. Russell has zero people skills in the game except for finding some cute little sycophants to be by his side. His second season he benefited from the other castaways not knowing who he was. This time they knew his game, and dumped him accordingly.

What I don't get is what is up with Stephanie's attachment to him after he's gone for good? There had to have been penis involved for her to be that sprung on the guy. She's quite the snarky little bitch too, hope they dump her soon.

 

[her209]

Bye bye

Spoiler

Krista

.

Rob has four "for sure" people in his alliance. Andrea and Phillip are on the outs and would probably flip if the merge were to happen if they were still around. Same could be said of Stephanie and Krista as indicated by them during the Redemption Island challenge. But if Matt is able to stick it out on Redemption Island until the merge, he'll also flip to Ralph's alliance which is six strong. So really its a 9 v 6 situation.

EDIT: Fixed the number in Ralph's alliance.

 

[JujuFish]

Is it just me, or are the girls really unlikeable this season?

 

[Dr. Detroit]

Stephanie really screwed up that challenge - it was hers to win. The teams knew what the reward was too so I'm surprised the phrase did not click.

I think the drama on Ralph's team is a far stretch from the truth as those 6 seem extremely solid and the producers are fishing for drama to make the game seem interesting. It will get interesting if they actually have to get down to 5 members but I find that doubtful.

Phillip is starting to grown on me or the producers are doing a great job to not show his wacked out side any longer - that or the Prozac withdrawals are complete. Although that massage comment was a bit freaky.

While I still would like to go back to the pure play of the Survivor of past with no idols, no redemption, no temporary eviction island, I would still like to understand life on Redemption island a bit more and what goes on socially.

 

[11thHour]

This is the cheesiest survivor season I've seen. Redemption island is ridiculous...someone could win 6 challenges in a row, only to lose a seventh and that 7th get reinstated.

This Rob/Russell gimmick was way too forced...throwing them in with a bunch of virgins only to shiver in russell's presense because of his rep. after kicking @ss for two seasons already.

I think the level of witty gamesmanship is at an alltime low.

 

[Wingznut]

What was up with the pose that Phillip did? LMAO!

 

[novasatori]

This is the cheesiest survivor season I've seen. Redemption island is ridiculous...someone could win 6 challenges in a row, only to lose a seventh and that 7th get reinstated.

I agree, I was hoping they would do a method where the first winner goes back onto the opposite tribe or something and if you lose twice you're out.

There are a lot of ways they could have made this way more interesting.

 

[Wingznut]

I agree, I was hoping they would do a method where the first winner goes back onto the opposite tribe or something and if you lose twice you're out.

There are a lot of ways they could have made this way more interesting.

Yeah, but how else would you do it, that wouldn't add weeks to the competition?

 

[purbeast0]

purple tribe is a buncha fucking idiots, that is all i gotta say. from day 1 they have had 1 agenda and it isn't winning ... i hope they go down in flames.

 

[tcG]

purple tribe is a buncha fucking idiots

Best quote of the night...

 

[her209]

purple tribe is a buncha fucking idiots, that is all i gotta say. from day 1 they have had 1 agenda and it isn't winning ... i hope they go down in flames.

I dunno. The way I see it, Rob is still down in numbers even though the tribes have equal numbers. Phillip and Andrea would probably flip on Rob. which means Rob only has four in his alliance. Ralph has six in his. Depending on whether Matt or Stephanie winning the Redemption Island challenge, the winner would likely flip on their former tribe.

 

[her209]

Interesting choice at Tribal Council tonight. Vote off the weakest person on the tribe but someone who you can trust OR vote off someone who is probably going to flip on you come merge time but is good at the challenges. Either way, if

Spoiler

Sarita

wins the Redemption Island challenge, I don't know if the winner would necessarily go back to their former alliance or join the other alliance out of spite.

 

[purbeast0]

There is absolutely nobody on the purple team i like other than Dave at this point. I was hoping the chick would have won redemption island last night but matt won again.

i also feel that rob is beginnig to get a little TOO powerful in this game. he will have to start to play very carfully come merge time.

but man the way he read phillip like a book was so funny and smart, and then when he found the clue and tossed it into that volcano haha.

and fwiw, i've been to that volcano too!

 

[Mermaidman]

. . . and then when he found the clue and tossed it into that volcano haha.

and fwiw, i've been to that volcano too!

What country are they in? When he did that, I thought "Oh man, I bet there's some sign that says no littering!"

 

[purbeast0]

What country are they in? When he did that, I thought "Oh man, I bet there's some sign that says no littering!"

they are in nicaragua.

actually i can't say i've been to that exact one, since there are more than 1 active one in nicaragua, but i went to the Masaya Volcano as shown in the link below.

http://vianica.com/go/specials/9-nicaragua-volcanoes.html

down a bit in there. didn't realize there were quite a few.

 

[her209]

Did anyone else LOL when Ralph said he didn't know what "cohesive" meant? I don't know how Jeff could keep a straight face. Maybe clever editing.

 

[spidey07]

Making them look like a bunch of idiots now for getting rid of Russel. Your alliance and plans don't matter if you can't win immunity challenges as a team. Russel was right, you go into a merge with numbers and to do that you have to win challenges.