**OFFICIAL** Star Wars: The Old Republic Thread

[maniacalpha1-1]

The turrets respawning instantly is a bug (if it's not, it's fucking retarded). Ergo: It's an exploit.

No, sorry, it's a poor design decision, not an exploit. What if they'd decided to have all quests at all levels give 4X the experience? Then doing quests would be an exploit, or would it simply be a poor design decision of the reward they set?

Unless Bioware confirmed that it's a bug, it's not an exploit but is in fact, typical MMO behaviour that perhaps Bioware as a newcomer to MMOs can't grasp.

Blaming players by calling it an exploit is wrong. If you can show me that Bioware has admitted that it's a bug I might agree with you to an extent, otherwise I can't understand an MMO player considering it exploitative to repeatedly kill something.

 

[Merad]

Ok. Companions. How do you get them? Every search i see on them so far tells me WHAT they are and what companions you get for each class. BUT >how< do you get one?

I am still low level (9) but i have seen people same class as me but at L8 running around with a companion. I am Sith, on Korriban. I thot maybe it was you had to do the class quest but i find it impossible to do at L9 as the mobs are L10 and tough to kill. So no idea how i L8 could have completed this quest.

All companions come from your class quest.

I'm not sure where you're running into a problem? The actual quest where you get your first companion should be about a level 8 or 9 quest? I leveled an Inquisitor in beta and don't remember having any significant problems.

 

[Beev]

Unless they can SPECIFICALLY rollback valor there won't be a rollback. Period.

 

[s44]

All companions come from your class quest.

I'm not sure where you're running into a problem? The actual quest where you get your first companion should be about a level 8 or 9 quest? I leveled an Inquisitor in beta and don't remember having any significant problems.

At one point, beating ol' warty Khem to pick him up (for SI) was non-trivial, and beating the dungeon-end boss was actually tough if you hadn't geared up with commo stuff before.

Dunno the current nerf status of these, but I could see it bottleneck some unfamiliar with the mechanics.

As always, when stuck, either overlevel a little or call a friend.

 

[SunnyD]

Bioware responds:

Hi folks,

We're currently investigating potential issues related to the Ilum open world PVP area post 1.1. We understand that this is a topic of much discussion and we ask that you please direct all discussions to this thread.

As always, we ask that the community keep the following things on mind when responding:
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If someone violates the Rules of Conduct, please flag it instead of replying to it.

We will update as soon as we have more information

 

[velillen]

Bioware responds:

Cause its hard to figure out People going from valor 50 to valor 60 in a matter of 2 hours is working as intended right

 

[KidNiki1]

Ok. Companions. How do you get them? Every search i see on them so far tells me WHAT they are and what companions you get for each class. BUT >how< do you get one?

I am still low level (9) but i have seen people same class as me but at L8 running around with a companion. I am Sith, on Korriban. I thot maybe it was you had to do the class quest but i find it impossible to do at L9 as the mobs are L10 and tough to kill. So no idea how i L8 could have completed this quest.

All companions come from doing your class quests.
The lower level people who had a companion already probably got help to complete their class quests.

 

[darkewaffle]

Valor is a bottleneck for battlemasters gear. you can only "save" 1 battlemaster bag before valor 60. So yes you have to get to 60 before you can even begin to get BM gear. After 60...yeah its pointless.

And for servers with imbalances already it is a major deal. Republic hardly wins in WZ's as it is and Ilum is/was a good way to get gear. Now your left with WZ's which we win maybe 1 in 5?

I personally have been doing WZ's much but did Ilum for the credits more than anything.

Actually our server is very empire heavy and the republic does quite well in warzones, I think due in part to the fact that most of our empire players rarely see anything other than huttball so they're simply less experienced with the other scenarios. Further, while the distribution should be about the same on both sides, I think at this stage in the game (young) a larger player base (Empire) is going to be more densely populated by lower level players, especially given the "Star Wars" appeal which results in more of those characters showing up on your team, though the 50 bracket should take care of that.

And I was thinking BM bags wouldn't be unique, as I don't think they have the Unique tag on them that the purchasable Champ bags have (and the quested Champ bags are non-unique of course). Hell I'll give it a try anyway and try picking some tonight.

 

[velillen]

Actually our server is very empire heavy and the republic does quite well in warzones, I think due in part to the fact that most of our empire players rarely see anything other than huttball so they're simply less experienced with the other scenarios. Further, while the distribution should be about the same on both sides, I think at this stage in the game (young) a larger player base (Empire) is going to be more densely populated by lower level players, especially given the "Star Wars" appeal which results in more of those characters showing up on your team, though the 50 bracket should take care of that.

And I was thinking BM bags wouldn't be unique, as I don't think they have the Unique tag on them that the purchasable Champ bags have (and the quested Champ bags are non-unique of course). Hell I'll give it a try anyway and try picking some tonight.

on our server theres probably more 50's on Sith side than Republic. And Sith is larger as well. yes they do get a lot of huttball So no saying a larger population means more lwer is wrong..it also just means more 50's But like you said the 50 brakcet takes care of that stuff. its still the same shitty players at 50 that ive always been with on republic side though If im pugging it that is.

And yeah i thought the same with the BM bags. I dont need champion gear so ill just stockpile BM bags. but i got one then tried to get another and all it said was "you already have this item" and i couldnt get another

 

[lupi]

Companions come from main class quest line. Keep doing that and you'll get them.

As for this pvp stuff, not seeing any bugs/exploits or anything that would demand a rollback. Just about every mmo that has different factions like this has. Pop imbalance across the servers. Only thing they could do is put in a point cap.

 

[SunnyD]

My server seems fairly heavily skewed towards Empire as well. Thing is it was really a "depends on the day of the week" thing for us. I play exclusively repub on my server, and there'd be some days where we couldn't win a warzone for crap, even with level 50's on our team. There were other days where we'd handily rape imps, even with several lower level players. If we went up against a full premade imp 50 group, it was one-sided. Then again, I've been lucky enough to pug into a just-about-full 50 premade repub warzone a couple times where we curbstomped the imps.

Warzones themselves weren't a problem. It was lowbie pugs going up against 50 premades that were a problem. The problem right now is going to be warzones being pretty much empty because of the Ilum exploits. Until that's fixed... well, what do I care - it's pvp - something which I don't terribly care about (except for the rewards/gear).

 

[Molondo]

i tried a warzone at level 11 or 12, i don't see myself doing pvp in this game

 

[KeithTalent]

i tried a warzone at level 11 or 12, i don't see myself doing pvp in this game

Yeah I played Huttball once and can't imagine I will ever go back to it. I wanted to quit it after about 90 seconds, but I toughed it out so I could complete the quest I was given.

KT

 

[SunnyD]

i tried a warzone at level 11 or 12, i don't see myself doing pvp in this game

@11 or 12, you're horribly gimped even with bolstering mainly because you only have a handful of abilities - and you're especially lacking any sort of mitigation abilities at that level.

IMHO warzones become relatively fun starting around 18ish and really fun around 22-24. That's when you have most of the meat'n'potatoes abilities for your class, you have your CC breaker, your class CC/stuns, and more importantly somewhat better gear.

Best part imho about warzones is the xp, the credits and the commendations. For 15 minutes of pvp, you generally get a couple quests worth of XP whether you win or lose. The amount of credits earned is really useful (At level 25 I get about 2000 credits per match). The commendations are really nice too - the level 24 pvp gear you can buy with the warzone commendations will pretty much outstrip any other gear you have at that point. You also get valor, which is basically pvp xp.

Biggest stigma I think people have to get over in the warzones is that you get all the aforementioned things whether you win or lose.

 

[Sentrosi2121]

I don't have access to the patch notes here at work.

Did Sorcerers get nerfed like expected?

 

[SunnyD]

I don't have access to the patch notes here at work.

Did Sorcerers get nerfed like expected?

Nobody got nerfed. Sorcerers weren't even mentioned in the patch notes.

 

[Nizology]

I don't have access to the patch notes here at work.

Did Sorcerers get nerfed like expected?

Huh?

 

[lupi]

I did a bunch of pvp during beta and had fun. Probably partly since most were no more than l17/18 at the time.

 

[Iron Wolf]

At one point, beating ol' warty Khem to pick him up (for SI) was non-trivial, and beating the dungeon-end boss was actually tough if you hadn't geared up with commo stuff before.

Dunno the current nerf status of these, but I could see it bottleneck some unfamiliar with the mechanics.

As always, when stuck, either overlevel a little or call a friend.

I really like the fact that you can't roll over mobs like you can in WoW. You often have to think about skills and tactics and position, or, like you said, coming back later or calling a friend to help.

I had to do that for one of the last trooper quests in the noob area, where you have to fight the very tough imperial officers. I was level 9, came back at 10 (Mortar helps), and still had to be careful and use my abilities wisely and watch for adds and use the story gate (don't overlook this -- you can just run out of the green area, and mobs can't follow) to beat it solo without dying.

I had to do something similar with my BH. For some reason, the 2nd bounty on Dromund Kaas (the Sith chick) was a tough nut to crack.

The BH gets Mako as soon as L7, as part of a regular quest, like all classes. It helps becaue you are going against L9 mobs and L9-10 quests. Except for the earliest noob levels, you are expected to have a companion, and the game difficult is adjusted accordingly.

 

[coloumb]

Solo'd The Foundry last night [I purposely wait until I can solo flashpoints] - very awesome story. Picked up a new ride as well [dropped from the main boss]. Same 90% speed as the CE ride, but at least it looks different.

 

[s44]

I did a bunch of pvp during beta and had fun.

Me too, and I attribute it to no one being able to stack tier expertise gear (or tier raid gear, for that matter) and roll people. You know, the balance that Bioware tried to sell the WZs on before throwing it out the window to incentivize PvP grinding (which, as we see from every single Ilum implementation, turns out to be PvP exploiting).

I guess the 10-49 bracket should be nice.

 

[TheUnk]

I prefer PvE over PvP and it kinda stinks that my only solo option for getting better gear is to do PvP. I can either spend an hour trying to get ppl for a hard mode flashpoint and find out we can't do it, or I can spend an hour earning pvp commendations.

And please don't tell me to do dailies on Belv and Ilum. It only took me 3 days to get everything I needed from that, less the overpriced earpiece and implants.

The drops in hard modes are a joke too. I have only done 2 so far but the best item we got was a columi (sp) pair of boots.

It's silly that only 1 crafting crystal drops too, especially when my schematics require 3 of them. But worse of all, the wpns I do make are junk in comparison to the champ pvp wpns. So, good luck getting 3 when in a party of 4 all rolling need for it.

 

[paperfist]

Holly cow Balmorra is like a never ending spiral of quests and huge compared to the other two planets I've been on. This game keeps giving and giving

Solo'd The Foundry last night [I purposely wait until I can solo flashpoints] - very awesome story. Picked up a new ride as well [dropped from the main boss]. Same 90% speed as the CE ride, but at least it looks different.

How many levels above the flashpoint are you? Some of them are pretty mean, not sure how you can solo them, I have trouble doing that with heroics.

 

[KeithTalent]

How many levels above the flashpoint are you? Some of them are pretty mean, not sure how you can solo them, I have trouble doing that with heroics.

I was wondering the same thing. I'd love to solo some Flashpoints, but they seem damn hard even with a full group.

KT

 

[Ns1]

Holly cow Balmorra is like a never ending spiral of quests and huge compared to the other two planets I've been on. This game keeps giving and giving



How many levels above the flashpoint are you? Some of them are pretty mean, not sure how you can solo them, I have trouble doing that with heroics.

I dropped all the side quests when I became overleveled. Soooooo many quests.