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Originally posted by: musak999
Hello. I just bought a new FRN2-L and I'm itching to build my new computer. I currentley have an AMD 1800 TB. My plan is to one day, when I feel the 1800+ lagging a bit, to buy an AMD 3200+ 400 FSB. So instead of buying ddr333 to work with the 1800, I decided I might as well buy 1 x 512 mb pc3200 ram now to work alongside the 3200+ when I eventually do get it.

I will not be doing any OCing. All I want is stability with the 1800 and the 3200 when I upgrade Don't really care about it's ns or cl ratings since I've read... doesn't make any reeeaaall difference....

Would Infineon RAM do this job just fine? How about Samsung?
Those are the two brands I can purchase around here for a decent price.

Or would I need to invest in more expensive RAM like OCZ or Kingmax or whatever to do this job?

Thanks.:beer:


I have samsung PC2700 in mine and it's rock solid. I even swapped it for some Crucial once and sent back the crucial. This RAM is great!


 

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My review of the Soltek SL-75FRN2-L with the C1 (Ultra) chipset and a Barton 2500+ running at 3200+ is now up at BleedinEdge. We were able to run a late Barton 2500+ at 3200+ specs (both are 11 multipliers - only difference is 166 vs 200 FSB) at DEFAULT voltage.
 

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It's the first review link in the initial post of this thread Prometheus :beer: I put it in right after reading your review a couple days ago ;)
 

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Glad to see were still kicking! :)
Still wish I could get those GREAT FSB speeds you guys are getting!
 

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Received My Corsair XMS today. Got her running at 213 mhz sync right now error free 7-3-3-2 timings. The Corsair is far better than the GeIL pc3200 that i have that won't go any higher than 187 without errors. I have a felling that i haven't begun to touch the limit of this corsair ram yet. It went to 213 so clean and easy that i was frankly a little surprised at how well it did.
 

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I've got a SL-75FRN2-RL, and I can only do 100, 133, 166 and 200fsb, how are people getting 1mhz increments?
 

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Originally posted by: Vortex
I've got a SL-75FRN2-RL, and I can only do 100, 133, 166 and 200fsb, how are people getting 1mhz increments?
Set system performance to expert in the bios and it'll give you full control over all tweaks.

 

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: Vortex
I've got a SL-75FRN2-RL, and I can only do 100, 133, 166 and 200fsb, how are people getting 1mhz increments?
Set system performance to expert in the bios and it'll give you full control over all tweaks.

Sweet! Thanks!
 

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Originally posted by: NesuD
Received My Corsair XMS today. Got her running at 213 mhz sync right now error free 7-3-3-2 timings. The Corsair is far better than the GeIL pc3200 that i have that won't go any higher than 187 without errors. I have a felling that i haven't begun to touch the limit of this corsair ram yet. It went to 213 so clean and easy that i was frankly a little surprised at how well it did.
Congrats1 Looks like you have a winner now :beer:
 

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Those look like budget boards. Single channel memory (64 bit) passive northbridge cooling and only the L version includes ABSII. must be making a run at the OEM market curious what the pricing will be on them.
 

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Somebody help me...

I just put a system together with the FRN@-RL and a Athlon 1700+ w/ Hyperx pc3000 memory. So far the board is great and in a quick trial I was stable at 180 FSB sync. My problem is that I flashed to the 1.2l BIOS on the soltek website which no longer has the adjustment for memory bus speed as a percentage of the FSB speed. The only option present in the bios there is "AUTO". I didn't think this mattered at first since up to 180MHz they were running synch anyway, but when I booted at 185MHz the memory bus only booted at 154MHz. This sucks since the board otherwise is phenominal and my processor doesn't seem to have even broken a sweat yet at this rate, but I don't want to run async. I don't want to flash the bios backwards either, since I am so stable here and I have heard bad things about flashing back. Any advice from anyone here? Has anyone else with the rev2 board noticed this change in the bios?
 

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Originally posted by: kauffmbe
Somebody help me...

I just put a system together with the FRN@-RL and a Athlon 1700+ w/ Hyperx pc3000 memory. So far the board is great and in a quick trial I was stable at 180 FSB sync. My problem is that I flashed to the 1.2l BIOS on the soltek website which no longer has the adjustment for memory bus speed as a percentage of the FSB speed. The only option present in the bios there is "AUTO". I didn't think this mattered at first since up to 180MHz they were running synch anyway, but when I booted at 185MHz the memory bus only booted at 154MHz. This sucks since the board otherwise is phenominal and my processor doesn't seem to have even broken a sweat yet at this rate, but I don't want to run async. I don't want to flash the bios backwards either, since I am so stable here and I have heard bad things about flashing back. Any advice from anyone here? Has anyone else with the rev2 board noticed this change in the bios?


Yeah me too. I got the same memory ratio control loss with the 1.2 bios. Go back to the 1.1, cause I got it back with that bios. I got all the way to 185 at 1.2, but I got only 154mhz in mem. So I went back to 1.1 (make sure you flash your bios non-overclocked!). And my setup hit 200mhz stable (11x200) and got the ratios back, also running ddr400. I couldn't hit 2.3ghz at first try with 1.675V, but I think i need to tinker with it a little more. My bro has it up in college so I can't further test yet. As to those problems, I'm unsure of that as I stopped at 185 since i lost control of the memory ratio, so I don't know if i could hit 200 "more stable" or even hit 2.3ghz right away as opposed to tinkering with it. IMO, memory ratio control is more important now and I strongly don't think flashing back with cripple your OC potential. If you do decide to flash backwards, can you test if your OC potential varies or is similiar between the two bioses? Thanks.
 

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Got my 1700+ B from Newegg today along with the SL-75FRN2-L from googlegear. The best I have managed is 185x11. This is with Mushkin Value PC2700. I think this is pretty good, I guess :). I also need to get a better cpu cooler :p. I am running at 1.80V in the bios for the cpu, is that ok, or too high? Thanks for the help.


Thanks goes out to all that contributed to this thread (Especially DAPUNISHER and BENTVALVE) :D
 

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Good call Naruto :) Remember though guys, never go for the throat above 166fsb, take it 5-10mhz at a time and reboot in between or face potential HDD data corruption and possibly boot failure due to a nuked bios (which I have a new fix for, PM me if you run into corrupted bios symptoms ;) ) My point is that "tinkering" is safer than straight to it.
 

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That's a good overclock for running synch with 2700DDR kehi. 1.8v seems high for a 1700+ B at that clockspeed, have you tried backing off the CPU voltage and testing stability yet? I should think it'll do that speed at default most likely. If anything that 2700DDR may need a little extra juice to be stable and perhaps relaxed timings if you have them tight.
 

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Dapunisher, can you help me out. I had my setup at 2.2ghz (11x200) @ 1.6V. It primed perfectly, ran hours of MOHAA, WC3 and 3Dmark 2k1. It was as good as stable. Since it was my bros comp, he packed it up and took it up to his college. After he plugs it in and turns it on, there is no signal going to the monitor. Only after clearing the cmos causes his setup to boot up right. What do you think happened? Its weird that it couldn't boot after a 3 hour unplug. Yet it boots fine in the morning after 8 hours of power off at night? Since he has it, I haven't been able to determine if my setup is now unstable at this speed or not.
 

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I've had 1 of mine exhibit that symptom as well and my best guess from messing with it is that it only seems to happens at overclock speeds that the CPU can't run at on default Vcore but it's just a guess. It also could be partially because you still have standby power when plugged in all night and your bro just had the battery to hold CMOS settings that it wouldn't cold boot for him while overclocked to that speed but who knows for certain :confused: If this is continuing to happen everytime he turns it off I'd say lower the clockspeed or get used to holding the insert key while powering up ;)
 

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Oh sorry forgot to mention that my chip is a DLT3C and was set .1V higher from default. Oh well, once I get the system back in a few weeks, I can crank it up again and be able to fully test stability, and get to know the faults to it.
 

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Originally posted by: Naruto
Oh sorry forgot to mention that my chip is a DLT3C and was set .1V higher from default. Oh well, once I get the system back in a few weeks, I can crank it up again and be able to fully test stability, and get to know the faults to it.
See the thing is it's been speculated that for a split second while powering up the board doesn't use the voltage you set in the bios, it uses the CPU's default voltage which results in the inability to boot with high overclocking. I'm no IEEE type so wether this is the case or not I'm not qualified to say.

 

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The best I can get at default voltage is 180x11. I guess this is a little better. I tried 185fsb and the OS loader told me a file was corrupt. I also tried 190x11 at default and the computer rebooted before loading windows. I even tried 1.70V and it contiuned to reboot. I tested DDR voltage all the way up to 2.7V and it seemed to make no difference (still rebooted before loading windws). I have the timings for the ram relaxed at 3/4/4/8.


BTW: Just for fun I tried 200, 202, and 205 at 1.7V and got nothing but black screen. No post at all. :(


Anyways, I will test stability here at 180x11 @default voltage. I really wish I could get 200fsb or more but not sure if the cpu or ram is just out of gas at 180fsb :D
 

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I guess I am still having problem with the sound...

sometimes whenI play a song, or playing a game
the sound would suddenly get quiter, and appears to echo and sound muddy

i dont know why this is happening

previosy , adjusting the volume control to the max would clear the sound up but now that method doesnt work anymore..

btw i am using the latest driver al650 driver
 

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Originally posted by: littlegohan
I guess I am still having problem with the sound...

sometimes whenI play a song, or playing a game
the sound would suddenly get quiter, and appears to echo and sound muddy

i dont know why this is happening

previosy , adjusting the volume control to the max would clear the sound up but now that method doesnt work anymore..

btw i am using the latest driver al650 driver
That's a strange one :confused: Are you cooling the southbridge? Sorry I got nothin' for that issue and I haven't had any audio problems either.
 

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kehi, you can lower the multiplier ;) set it to 9.5x and slowly raise the FSB 5-10mhz at a time and shoot for 200fsb again if you want to find out if it'll make it but I think it's the ram holding you back so you will want to set it to say 75-80% when doing it. Of course go back to 180 synch when your through cause your better off that way for most things.
 

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It turns out that the 1.2l bios did remove the memory bus speed percentage as suspected. I havn't flashed back to the 1.1 yet b/c Ive been testing stability here at 182x11. I love this setup so far. I have a rock stable cheap 1700+ DUT3C from newegg (24hrs of prime 95 + video encoding) 2.0ghz setup with a cheap SVC GC69 HSF ($7.99) at stock voltage and memory timings at 6-2-2-Cas2. My memory is Kingston hyperx pc3000, which is officially rated for 185mhz and I have read some have taken it up to 200mhz with aggressive timings, so after I flash the bios back I'll try the raise the FSB some more. Unfortunately, I don't know how much higher the processor will go, b/c I tried rasisng the multiplier to 12 and had random reboots and blue screens. I raised the Vcore to 1.7 (according to the soltek hardware monitor my board slightly undervolts at all settings giving 1.85 at 1.6, etc) and it booted and loaded windows fine, but I got a fairly quick error in Prime95. Since one of the primary objectives of this build is to be a quiet as possible, I really don't want to raise the Vcore more and need more cooling, even though it would probably let me go higher. Right now temps arent a problem, idiling at 39, load 49 on stack voltage at 2.0Ghz, and idiling at 45, load 54 at 1.7V 2.2Ghz speeds. This is from the ABS monitor, which is conisitently 7-11 degrees higher than the CPU socket temps.

Out of curiosity, my old TBird 1.4 ran at 43idle, 53load and was perfectly fine, but those readings were from a socket thermistor on an ECS K7s5a. So does that mean that this 1700 is actually running at least 10 degrees cooler, even overclocked since the ABSII temps are similar, but the socket temps are around the same values? If thats the case, then if this chip was in the low 60s via ABSII, it should still be more than adequate, correct?