***Official Reviews Thread*** Nvidia Geforce GTX Titan - Launched Feb. 21, 2013

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Rvenger

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Everyone has moved beyond the price issue..... except you, wand3r3r.
But as you can probably see, and what is probably also mystifying you, is the number of people on this forum alone who have bought a Titan, or even two despite the incredibly bad price/performance you KEEP HARPING ON. LOL. Dead horse. Move on. Titan is not for you, we get the subtle hints you keep dropping. /sarcasm.
I think you should buy one.


If this were an AMD card you would be harping on it instead of him. Tables have turned and you don't like it obviously.
 

DooKey

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So 680's are $700?

Riiiiight. Whatever, if that suits your argument and makes you feel like the price is justified. My 680 lightning hit ~1400, and they cost $500 (granted it was the model before the voltage lock crap, thanks NV). Regardless, golden 680's at 1380 were tested vs. the Titan.

The point was 1380 core 680 vs. 1137 core titan. There are certainly no $700 680's on the market and it would take a golden card or flashing the bios to get more voltage to get that.

Your point is all about cost and you've made that plain as day....day after day.

You need to get out more. The EVGA classified sells for $599 and when you purchased the EVBot to up the voltage it took the price to over $700.

Here's the Classified: http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-3688-KR at EVGA for $599.

Here's the Classified at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-C.../ref=pd_cp_e_0 for $659


You will also find 680's at Newegg for almost $600 as well.

As I stated before the person that ran that test was using $1400 of 680 cards and not the bogus $900 number you threw out.
 
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Keysplayr

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If this were an AMD card you would be harping on it instead of him. Tables have turned and you don't like it obviously.

I dunno man, you don't see me attacking ARES II about price day and night do you? We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Right? Now as for the bridge we are on now? What say you?
As for turning tables? I don't even know what that means.
 
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wand3r3r

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Everyone has moved beyond the price issue..... except you, wand3r3r.
But as you can probably see, and what is probably also mystifying you, is the number of people on this forum alone who have bought a Titan, or even two despite the incredibly bad price/performance you KEEP HARPING ON. LOL. Dead horse. Move on. Titan is not for you, we get the subtle hints you keep dropping. /sarcasm.
I think you should buy one.

Hmm, kind of like you and every issue dealing with AMD? How many posts did you have in the AMD stuttering thread? How much new evidence was there in each post you had? If you want to talk about beating on the dead horse, take a look at your post history.

Your point is all about cost and you've made that plain as day....day after day.

You need to get out more. The EVGA classified sells for $599 and when you purchased the EVBot to up the voltage it took the price to over $700.

Here's the Classified: http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=04G-P4-3688-KR at EVGA for $599.

Here's the Classified at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-C.../ref=pd_cp_e_0 for $659


You will also find 680's at Newegg for almost $600 as well.

As I stated before the person that ran that test was using $1400 of 680 cards and not the bogus $900 number you threw out.

Sure, that guy may have paid $1400 9 months ago on those cards, either way, they were golden overclockers. There are other cards, it's just luck of the draw + overvolting.
 

Keysplayr

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Hmm, kind of like you and every issue dealing with AMD? How many posts did you have in the AMD stuttering thread? How much new evidence was there in each post you had? If you want to talk about beating on the dead horse, take a look at your post history.

That was kind of, and still is, a real issue (among others). Kinda sort of a big difference there bud.
I don't care how you spin that one, so go with your bad self. I'm just wondering how many more times you have to tell us about the price for Titan that you cannot or would not pay. That's great man. But, after the first 70 times you mentioned it, I think we got it. ;)
 
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wand3r3r

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That was kind of, and still is, a real issue. Kinda sorta big difference there bud.
I don't care how you spin that one, so go with your bad self. I'm just wondering how many more times you have to tell us about the price for Titan that you cannot or would not pay. That's great man. But, after the first 70 times you mentioned it, I think we got it. ;)

So we can only beat on a dead amd horse, got it.

Btw this card isn't even a week old, it's pretty premature to call it a dead horse.
 

Keysplayr

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So we can only beat on a dead amd horse, got it.

Btw this card isn't even a week old, it's pretty premature to call it a dead horse.

Oh? Semantics game?
LOL
I'm calling your price complaint crusade, the dead horse. Not the card. Just to keep things clear and real. You are familiar with those terms, yes?
Pretty sure I've made my point. Sorry for the OT folks.
 
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DooKey

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Sure, that guy may have paid $1400 9 months ago on those cards, either way, they were golden overclockers. There are other cards, it's just luck of the draw + overvolting.

I can definitely agree with this. Those cards and the OC are the exception and definitely not the rule. As far as the OC on the Titan's go 1137 seems to be in the normal range.

From a strictly cost/performance stand point definitely a bit overpriced for the mainstream crowd. From the enthusiast stand point they seem to be priced correctly at this time because they keep going out of stock. The coming weeks will determine whether or not the price was a good call or not.
 

wand3r3r

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Oh? Semantics game?
LOL
I'm calling your price complaint crusade, the dead horse. Not the card. Just to keep things clear and real. You are familiar with those terms, yes?

Yep, and I'll call your AMD bashing a crusade as well. It's definitely beating a dead horse (don't deflect, your million posts in the AMD thread have less substance than my comment on the bad price of the titan with the emergence of more testing and yet you hate to see it mentioned against your employer/sponsor).

Either way, when more data/benchmarks come I will not refrain from pointing out the absurd price in a public forum.

I can definitely agree with this. Those cards and the OC are the exception and definitely not the rule. As far as the OC on the Titan's go 1137 seems to be in the normal range.

From a strictly cost/performance stand point definitely a bit overpriced for the mainstream crowd. From the enthusiast stand point they seem to be priced correctly at this time because they keep going out of stock. The coming weeks will determine whether or not the price was a good call or not.

Yeah I agree with this last part. It will be interesting to see, once the initial trickle has been turned into a full stream of cards we will see how the market reacts.
 

moonbogg

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That would be horrible for GK110. 3GB 384-bit would be much better.

Totally. I think 3gb @ 384-bit for $800 would have been golden as golden can be for a card like this. The 6gb is just crazy. How many 2560 monitors would you need to use close to 6gb? Seriously, i'm curious.
 

Keysplayr

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Yep, and I'll call your AMD bashing a crusade as well. It's definitely beating a dead horse (don't deflect, your million posts in the AMD thread have less substance than my comment on the bad price of the titan with the emergence of more testing and yet you hate to see it mentioned against your employer/sponsor).

What is your intention.
 

thilanliyan

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Where are all the people that were whining about AMD's initial 7900 series pricing? They even blamed AMD for nVidia's pricing of a "midrange" card lol...

AMD releases the fastest single GPU and charges accordingly..."whine, complain, blah blah blah, now I can't get my nVidia cards for cheap!!" Lol :D
nVidia releases the fastest single GPU and charges accordingly..."screw price/performance, gotta pay to play, etc, etc."

Frankly I'm not surprised even though this is supposedly a forum infested with AMD shills.

To be clear, although I myself would not spend $1k on a video card because I have other more important hobbies (unless it was a monster BTC miner), nVidia charging what their customers will pay is perfectly acceptable IMO. The only negative I see with Titan is the somewhat gimped OCing (for a watercooling guy) on the reference boards, but that should (hopefully) be fixed when non-reference cards come out so it's all good.

And personally I think this is a beast of a card for gaming and I am a bit jealous that some of you guys have a new toy to play with!! :)
 
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Zanovar

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Where are all the people that were whining about AMD's initial 7900 series pricing? They even blamed AMD for nVidia's pricing of a "midrange" card lol...

AMD releases the fastest single GPU and charges accordingly..."whine, complain, blah blah blah, now I can't get my nVidia cards for cheap!!" Lol :D
nVidia releases the fastest single GPU and charges accordingly..."screw price/performance, gotta pay to play, etc, etc."

Frankly I'm not surprised even though this is supposedly a forum infested with AMD shills.

To be clear, although I myself would not spend $1k on a video card because I have other more important hobbies (unless it was a monster BTC miner), nVidia charging what their customers will pay is perfectly acceptable IMO. The only negative I see with Titan is the somewhat gimped OCing (for a watercooling guy) on the reference boards, but that should (hopefully) be fixed when non-reference cards come out so it's all good.

nvm bad mood
 
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Elfear

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To be clear, although I myself would not spend $1k on a video card because I have other more important hobbies (unless it was a monster BTC miner), nVidia charging what their customers will pay is perfectly acceptable IMO. The only negative I see with Titan is the somewhat gimped OCing (for a watercooling guy) on the reference boards, but that should (hopefully) be fixed when non-reference cards come out so it's all good.

And personally I think this is a beast of a card for gaming and I am a bit jealous that some of you guys have a new toy to play with!! :)

My thoughts exactly. While I can't justify a Titan or two with the price/performance all out of whack, I am jealous that some of you get to play with new hardware.
 

Keysplayr

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Where are all the people that were whining about AMD's initial 7900 series pricing? They even blamed AMD for nVidia's pricing of a "midrange" card lol...

AMD releases the fastest single GPU and charges accordingly..."whine, complain, blah blah blah, now I can't get my nVidia cards for cheap!!" Lol :D
nVidia releases the fastest single GPU and charges accordingly..."screw price/performance, gotta pay to play, etc, etc."

Frankly I'm not surprised even though this is supposedly a forum infested with AMD shills.

To be clear, although I myself would not spend $1k on a video card because I have other more important hobbies (unless it was a monster BTC miner), nVidia charging what their customers will pay is perfectly acceptable IMO. The only negative I see with Titan is the somewhat gimped OCing (for a watercooling guy) on the reference boards, but that should (hopefully) be fixed when non-reference cards come out so it's all good.

And personally I think this is a beast of a card for gaming and I am a bit jealous that some of you guys have a new toy to play with!! :)

Thilan, just to be clear. I think this card is freaking expensive. Way too expensive for me and most IMHO. But as you can see, it's not too expensive for a lot of people. They are selling. I'm not saying that justifies the price but I am saying that price doesn't seem to be an issue for some.
I also believe 7970 was FAR too expensive at launch just as the GTX280 was FAR to expensive at launch. But Nvidia and AMD made each other respond in price cuts in each of those situations.
You want to know where the whiners are? I was one. What do you want to know? How much whining is required about price? Put a number on it. 100? 200 posts? 300? Sheesh enough. :D
 

Lepton87

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There are some rumors that NV will allow custom Titan cards, let's just hope that any restrictions will be lifted for custom cards. That 265W power limit does not belong in a 1000$ card. I've got my fingers crossed for a 1350MHz/1800MHz 350W Titan. Unfortunately that still might not be the case, NV quickly shot down custom 680s that allowed proper overclocking. I don't know why they want to lose customers by doing this BS. If the next game that I'll buy won't work properly with CF I'll just sell my cards and buy a custom Titan if they allow OC to one's heart content if not I'll just buy an ASUS MATRIX 7970, I know that I'll see a drop in fps in games that scale properly by going with the matrix, I really wanted an upgrade in all cases but frankly playing on a single 6970 at 2560x1440 is not a particularly good experience. Hopefully a custom OCed Titan will be able to pull it off or get close.
 
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blackened23

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Question for those of you with Titan's. If you up the fan speed manually to maximum, do your boost clock speeds get affected at 100% load **in games**

Can anyone test this in crysis 3 or something along those lines? I've found some odd behaviour with 314.09 drivers related to 70% and higher manual fan speed, and the interaction with boost speeds and high manual fan.
 

SolMiester

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There are some rumors that NV will allow custom Titan cards, let's just hope that any restrictions will be lifted for custom cards. That 265W power limit does not belong in a 1000$ card. I've got my fingers crossed for 1350MHz/1800MHz 350W Titan. Unfortunately that still might not be the case, NV quickly shot down custom 680s that allowed proper overclocking. I don't know why they want to lose customers by doing this BS. If the next game that I'll buy won't work properly with CF I'll just sell my cards and buy a custom Titan if they allow OC to one's heart content if not I'll just buy an ASUS MATRIX 7970, I know that I'll see a drop in fps in games that scale properly by going with the matrix, I really wanted an upgrade in all cases but frankly playing on a single 6970 at 2560x1440 is not a particularly good experience. Hopefully a custom OCed Titan will be able to pull it off or get close.

I think they are just looking at the warranty of the card, probably learnt a lesson with the 590s
 

Lepton87

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I think they are just looking at the warranty of the card, probably learnt a lesson with the 590s

That's nothing that can't be circumvented. Just make dual BIOS cards like 6990, one with all restrictions in place and the other one for overclockers, switching to the other BIOS would void the warranty. It's been done before. It's so easy that it must not be the reason. Maybe GK110 can't handle over 1.2V for any extended period of time and would die in a matter of weeks or even days at 1.3V?
 
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kache

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There are some rumors that NV will allow custom Titan cards, let's just hope that any restrictions will be lifted for custom cards. That 265W power limit does not belong in a 1000$ card. I've got my fingers crossed for a 1350MHz/1800MHz 350W Titan. Unfortunately that still might not be the case, NV quickly shot down custom 680s that allowed proper overclocking. I don't know why they want to lose customers by doing this BS. If the next game that I'll buy won't work properly with CF I'll just sell my cards and buy a custom Titan if they allow OC to one's heart content if not I'll just buy an ASUS MATRIX 7970, I know that I'll see a drop in fps in games that scale properly by going with the matrix, I really wanted an upgrade in all cases but frankly playing on a single 6970 at 2560x1440 is not a particularly good experience. Hopefully a custom OCed Titan will be able to pull it off or get close.

Agreed. 265W is just ridiculous. :|
Hopefully nVidia will remove all limitations. :biggrin:
 

Keysplayr

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For 1000 dollars, I think I'd be glad that the manufacturer placed a limit. Knowing me, I'd over do it and fry my thousand dollar investment. A BIOS switch is an intriguing option though. Those that want to risk it, can. But the second you use that switch, warranty is void.
 

Zanovar

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For 1000 dollars, I think I'd be glad that the manufacturer placed a limit. Knowing me, I'd over do it and fry my thousand dollar investment. A BIOS switch is an intriguing option though. Those that want to risk it, can. But the second you use that switch, warranty is void.

Oh cmon keys, you are not fooling anybody with that comment ffs".For 1000 dollars, I think I'd be glad that the manufacturer placed a limit"hey its a great card and a very expensive one threr is no need to be a cock about it.
 
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