***OFFICIAL*** Republican National Convention thread ***CONFIRMED***

[Artdeco]

Looking at the line up for the DNC, I dunno if I can stomach it either

 

[feralkid]

And no amount of bitching, crying or moaning from the left will change that.

It never does; votes will, however.

 

[shady28]

The speech watchers almost certainly skewed heavily towards people who were already going to vote for him. That is in no way 'reality' and that should be obvious.

Speaking of things from outside the bubble, you would be well served to get out of your own bubble.

I was actually pulling punches by quoting CNN images.

Frank Luntz's focus groups :

 

[fskimospy]

Looking at the line up for the DNC, I dunno if I can stomach it either

Really? Looks decent to me. Sanders, Obama, Bill Clinton, Michelle Obama. Those are all pretty good speakers. I'm sure they will all say the same old convention-y shit, but within the realm of that it sounds decent. Not that I'll be watching them.

It's hard to see how the DNC could be worse than the shit show we just witnessed though. That was four straight days of tinfoil hat, unhinged, frothing rage and fear. I don't think I've ever seen a major political party convention that was more bizarre and embarrassing. There's some real mental illness going on over there.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Trump can't possibly believe that he can deliver on even ten percent of all those promises. I've never seen that level of desperation before. It was stunning in it's dishonesty. He's going to build a wall. It's going to be made of the finest bullshit, and the first course was laid tonight.

Politicians are always making promises to garner votes...only to break them once in office. And you've never seen this level of "desperation" before? Really? lol

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-broken/

 

[fskimospy]

I was actually pulling punches by quoting CNN images.

Frank Luntz's focus groups :

No you weren't, haha. This is even worse. Quoting a Frank Luntz focus group shown on Sean Hannity's show is just another artifact of the bubble you're in.

Show me actual scientific polling of reactions to the speech and then let's talk. What you're doing now is just seeking out things that tell you what you want to hear. That's what being in the bubble is, of course.

 

[fskimospy]

Politicians are always making promises to garner votes...only to break them once in office. And you've never seen this level of "desperation" before? Really? lol

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-broken/

Of course if you actually look at Obama's record as a whole it's not half bad. More than 75% of his promises were kept, partially kept in a compromise, or are still in the works. That's pretty good for any president, wouldn't you say?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/

Do you think Donald Trump would keep 75% of his promises? I don't even think that would be possible considering how many contradictory promises he's made at this point, hahaha.

 

[shady28]

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Show me actual scientific polling of reactions to the speech and then let's talk. ....

How about you do that? Oh but that doesn't fit the lefty modus operandi here. All you do is all you've ever done, spit out insults and prerogatives, quote some lefty opinion piece, strut around as if you know something, but never a fact to be found.

 

[fskimospy]

How about you do that? Oh but that doesn't fit the lefty modus operandi here. All you do is all you've ever done, spit out insults and prerogatives, quote some lefty opinion piece, strut around as if you know something, but never a fact to be found.

The only 'insult' I 'spat out' was saying that you're in a bubble, which is the same thing you accused other people of being in, haha. I certainly didn't say anything like what you just wrote to me here. Better check that beam in your eye, brotha.

As for your tirade, I very rarely opinion pieces and if I do it's because of some hard data they are referencing, not for the opinion itself. If you actually read what I wrote you would know that but I think you're just letting fly with some generic insults. That won't work on me because I don't care about your insults.

As for the scientific polling you're the one that was making a claim about what you thought 'reality' is. I am under no burden to provide polling, I was just telling you that you made a very basic mistake in assuming the people being polled were representative. I imagine you did that because it told you what you wanted to hear.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Of course if you actually look at Obama's record as a whole it's not half bad. More than 75% of his promises were kept, partially kept in a compromise, or are still in the works. That's pretty good for any president, wouldn't you say?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/

Do you think Donald Trump would keep 75% of his promises? I don't even think that would be possible considering how many contradictory promises he's made at this point, hahaha.

And now you see the future where Trump's broken promises are likely to be much, much worse than Obama's SIX pages of actual broken promises. Nostradamus move over...fskimospy is here! You're a hoot!

 

[Artdeco]

Really? Looks decent to me. Sanders, Obama, Bill Clinton, Michelle Obama. Those are all pretty good speakers. I'm sure they will all say the same old convention-y shit, but within the realm of that it sounds decent. Not that I'll be watching them.

It's hard to see how the DNC could be worse than the shit show we just witnessed though. That was four straight days of tinfoil hat, unhinged, frothing rage and fear. I don't think I've ever seen a major political party convention that was more bizarre and embarrassing. There's some real mental illness going on over there.

I was looking at Tuesday's line up:

The Mothers of the Movement participating include Gwen Carr, Mother of Eric Garner; Sybrina Fulton, Mother of Trayvon Martin; Maria Hamilton, Mother of Dontré Hamilton; Lucia McBath, Mother of Jordan Davis; Lezley McSpadden, Mother of Michael Brown; Cleopatra Pendleton-Cowley, Mother of Hadiya Pendleton; Geneva Reed-Veal, Mother of Sandra Bland.

Were it my call, I wouldn't have added Trayvon Martin's mother or Michael Brown's, the others are much more appropriate IMHO, and aren't diluting the message as much.

 

[dank69]

And now you see the future where Trump's broken promises are likely to be much, much worse than Obama's SIX pages of actual broken promises. Nostradamus move over...fskimospy is here! You're a hoot!

You don't have to be Nostradamus to guess that violence and crime will not end on January 20, 2017, or that Mexico will pay to build a wall along our border if Trump is elected.

 

[fskimospy]

And now you see the future where Trump's broken promises are likely to be much, much worse than Obama's SIX pages of actual broken promises. Nostradamus move over...fskimospy is here! You're a hoot!

It was a snarky joke. As I said the other day you really, really need to lighten up.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Could the Bern take over Elizabeth Warrens attack dog spot?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/22/politics/bernie-sanders-tweets-donald-trump-speech/index.html

Bern was on fire last night via twitter.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

It was a snarky joke. As I said the other day you really, really need to lighten up.

I'm having fun...you're entertaining as hell. :biggrin:

 

[fskimospy]

I'm having fun...you're entertaining as hell. :biggrin:

Why thank you! I like how you are trying this new tack of saying you find me entertaining instead of the old one where you would petulantly declare I was mean, horrible, no good, very bad. It's good to stay positive!

 

[FerrelGeek]

But D's have the best D's!

lol. I'm straight, bro, so I don't fuss over other's Ds Not judging those that do; just not my thing.

 

[FerrelGeek]

Spouting off tons of empty promises is the hallmark of politics. If you haven't figured that out by now, you're delusional. Just wait til next week with all the stuff Hillary is going to promise.

Why is this man YELLING at me? All of this yelling has changed him from orange to a red, sweaty mess.

His speech sure sounds like a whole lot of Big Government. Any Trump supporter who thinks he is a fiscal conservative Republican is delusional.

student loan debt
rebuild the military
crack down on deadbeat countries
veteran care

All without a single detail of how he is going to do it. He is going to completely rebuild the military...after cutting the budget and reducing taxes...lol!

Did Trump call for a religious theocracy?...

Police Chief Trump is going to protect LGBTQ community from ISIS? lol...How about protecting them from Republicans first?

Clinton has a "radical immigration policy" to create "mass lawlessness." LOL This is like a bad movie.

Trump can't possibly believe that he can deliver on even ten percent of all those promises. I've never seen that level of desperation before. It was stunning in it's dishonesty. He's going to build a wall. It's going to be made of the finest bullshit, and the first course was laid tonight.

 

[Subyman]

I was looking at Tuesday's line up:



Were it my call, I wouldn't have added Trayvon Martin's mother or Michael Brown's, the others are much more appropriate IMHO, and aren't diluting the message as much.

Ugh, I'm not so sure that will play well. I wish they would have stuck to bigger policies than exploiting the news cycle. They aren't going to make many friends on the moderate right talking about Michael Brown.

 

[fskimospy]

Ugh, I'm not so sure that will play well. I wish they would have stuck to bigger policies than exploiting the news cycle. They aren't going to make many friends on the moderate right talking about Michael Brown.

Yeah, these are speakers at times that very few people will be watching but they do seem to be needlessly controversial. There are plenty of parents of people killed by police that have less controversial circumstances around their deaths.

 

[theeedude]

Remember this creepy pic?

Make America Masturbate Again!

 

[Subyman]

Yeah, these are speakers at times that very few people will be watching but they do seem to be needlessly controversial. There are plenty of parents of people killed by police that have less controversial circumstances around their deaths.

I'm never a fan of putting grieving parents on a national stage. The Benghazi mother during the GOP convention was one of the worst parts.

 

[fskimospy]

I'm never a fan of putting grieving parents on a national stage. The Benghazi mother during the GOP convention was one of the worst parts.

I think it can be fine, depending on how it is used. The Benghazi mother was terrible because she was perpetuating an obvious lie, and grieving parents can be susceptible to being duped like that. If they were just talking about the black lives matter movement overall then I'd be a big fan of that, because they are people who have been directly affected by disproportionate police violence against the black community.

 

[zinfamous]

Ugh, I'm not so sure that will play well. I wish they would have stuck to bigger policies than exploiting the news cycle. They aren't going to make many friends on the moderate right talking about Michael Brown.

agreed. It's no better than the Pubs trotting out that sad lady blaming Hillary for killing her son in Bengazi. It's quite a low bar that we have been hitting the last several years.

I wonder if we are forever stuck with grieving mothers trotted out as political meatpuppets? (not to mention confused old men talking to empty chairs)

 

[Subyman]

I think it can be fine, depending on how it is used. The Benghazi mother was terrible because she was perpetuating an obvious lie, and grieving parents can be susceptible to being duped like that. If they were just talking about the black lives matter movement overall then I'd be a big fan of that, because they are people who have been directly affected by disproportionate police violence against the black community.

The key is grieving, which the Benghazi mother was still doing. Parents who have gone through that process and have a clarified message on policy is another thing. I think it's exploitative to put a parent who is slobbering all over themselves and can barely keep it together up there. I guess we will see how this goes.