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Official OT Election Thread - What a ride!

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Zucchini, you'll have to do better than that. For starters, you can link me to a story about Republicans giving cigarettes to the homeless to get them to vote for Bush. Or how about Republicans illegaly going onto voting grounds to pass out propaganda. Or what about a report of Republicans "helping" non-English speaking voters.

Oh wait, I'm sorry, there are no reports of that kind of activity from Republicans.
 
Bush ought ot concede if he trusted the people. But that aint gonna happen.

Really? That's funny, Gore already conceded, but then withdrew it. Hmm...
 
Brainwashed? Hardly...I really don't care for the Republican party at all, it's just that I absolutely despise the Democrats and their feel good politics.
 


<< Oh wait, I'm sorry, there are no reports of that kind of activity from Republicans >>

EngineNr9, don't be so naive. Both the major parties put winning over ethics or honesty.
 
Yeah, that's what I thought at first, but I just kept hearing more and more of Democrats perpetrating voter fraud. With the media being as liberal as it is, don't you think if they uncovered any Republican voter fraud they'd take the story and run with it?
 
Red, I'm going to agree with you. When I saw the mod's edit in his post I re-read it several times to make sure that there wasn't something that I missed. There wasn't. I understood what he was saying and also what he meant quite plainly. Like it or not, Dirk really IS a lot like you, and me too, and he deserves banning no more than you, me, or any of the rest of us do for vehemently and vocally stating and defending a position, whether it happens to be a popular one or not.

I think what happened here is that one of the mods let his personal upset and dissapointment with the election taint his professional judgement, and he took his frustration out on the loudest and most visible conservative around. If thats the direction the moderation of this forum is headed, then you and I too may as well start packing up, because I'm sure one of us will be next to get the axe along about the next time we get in a fight. Dirk grates on my nerves also, just like you 🙂, but I certainly don't think either one of you, nor anyone else thats highly opinionated and extremely vocal, should be banned for their statements, views, or positions, unless they take it to a personal level with extreme animosity, and I think that the Mod that did this deed should unban Dirk and issue him an apology.

<edit>Having said that, I'll probably be gone also for having the audacity to question &quot;GOD&quot;, but so be it. I'm not too fond of kissing ass, as you well know, and I do tend to call 'em as I see 'em. If that gets me canned also then that would just be confirmation of the direction this forum could be headed, and that being the case, I wouldn't be around banned or otherwise.<edit>
 
Regardless of Dirk's personality and his strong opinions (which is not unlike most of the people here), the point is, HE IS NOT A RACIST, therefore, does not deserve to be banned over a misunderstanding. A person has a right to defend/explain himself in America, does the same apply here? I just hate seeing people treated unfairly is all... 🙂
 
A person has a right to defend/explain himself in America, does the same apply here?

Well, not really, this is a private forum after all. But regardless, Dirk's comments were clearly not racist.

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Excuse me for reposting this, but what Dirk said was

<<Blacks want to be slaves as long as they get free cheese and empty promises.>>

Not racist? I disagree. Whether he returns is yet to be determined.

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I would call that an exaggeration. I think he was trying to make a point and was a bit hasty, not realizing that it could be construed as derogatory. These can be very emotional issues for some people.

Your call though...
 
That statement is not in its self the problem, Dirk is his problem, banning him for being a retarded small minded idiot isnt right, there are plenty of them here already. IMO



SHUX
 
Note to Moderator:

You may disagree that Dirk's comment was racist all you like. However, in the context of a debate on political philosophy it most certainly was not and YOU are wrong. Banning him for them was wrong also. I don't think the comment was particularly mean spirited or personally directed at anyone in particular nor blacks as a group if its read in the context of his other posts and opinions and in the context of the particular discussion that led to it. Your zeal for political correctness has clouded your judgement and your sense of fairness.

You may be a moderator but you are also a member and as such you SHOULD know the difference between blatant racism and comments such as Dirk's made in the heat of a debate. If you don't then you need to turn in your badge, pronto.

Substitute the words &quot;Poor People&quot; for Blacks in Dirk's statement and tell me how it sounds to you then. We hear every day from the media and those who are the self-proclaimed leaders of black people that most of their members are left behind, excluded from the American Dream, living in poverty. Whether or not that is true is subject for another debate. We are also told by this same media and those same &quot;leaders&quot; that most blacks vote Democrat. Again, that may or not be true, but it doesn't change the fact that that is what we're told. Now, look at the government &quot;programs&quot;, largely instituted by Democrats, that supposedly are designed to relieve poverty. And yes, at one time, and it may still be an ongoing program for all I know, there indeed was a government anti-poverty program that gave out free cheese and other foodstuffs to the poor.

Now put all that info together. We're told that most blacks are poor. We're told that poor people get free cheese from the government. Most government poverty programs were instituted by Democrats. We're told most blacks vote Democrat. Most thinking and rational people, seeing what the results of these various programs are, can see that that which ostensibly was designed to help poor (or poor black) people does nothing to lift them out of poverty, but on the contrary insures that they are ENSLAVED to a lifetime of poverty and dependance upon more and more government programs which are perpetually promised to them by those same people who are responsible for their captivity, and they keep supporting them. Given that scenario then its reasonable that one may be led to the conclusion, whether true or not, that people in that situation &quot;want&quot; to remain there.

THAT, I believe, is the point that Dirk was trying to make, in his horrendously clumsy way. That sentiment is a political philosophy, NOT a racist one and in fact, I happen to agree with it. The POOR, whether they are black, white, or otherwise, in my opinion, indeed ARE enslaved by government poverty programs yet continue to vote for those that are doing them more harm than good. Now, if you want to start banning people based on whether or not their political philosophy happens to agree with yours then you'd better start with me, and you'd damned well better hire some help because you're going to be awfully busy.
 
Figures, I haven't even been part of this thread.... as a libertarian, I have at least some sense of fairness, since I think both candidates are full of it. My report thus far:

  • The ballot was not fuzzy or otherwise unworkable. It is not the ideal ballot, but by no means was it unusable or confusing to the majority. 2nd Graders can figure it out for crying out loud.
  • Jesse Jackson has not helped the situation at all. Nor have the army of lawyers that have descended upon the state. Both are opportunistic and would have no job if people learned to deal with their own problems.
  • Bush should not have sued to stop the hand counting, but insisted on hand counting throughout the state instead of stopping ballot counting.
  • Hand counting in just a handful of counties that happen to heavily lean towards the Democratic side is CHERRY PICKING!
  • I am so glad I voted libertarian it's not even funny.
  • Your vote does count.... and if it's in West Palm Beach, it counts... and counts.. and counts..
  • Neither one of these guys deserve to be president. Anyone with half a brain would realize at this point that the next four years of their life as president are going to be a living hell. Every move will be questioned and doubted. Their party will likely lose seats in congress. If both candidates hadn't been lusting for this position since birth, we would have had a concession of defeat by now.
  • No matter who wins, america loses.
 
Regarding the racist comment of DirktheQuirk, I'm sorry to see him go. He is so much fun to kick around. 😛

However, I think the fellow needs to take his medication on a regular basis and come back when his Thorazine levels are satisfactory.

Could the mods zip this thread and put it in the downloads sections of the board? I've just read it for the first time and think it is a nice chronology of events.

Also, is there a way to get to the end of the thread quickly? We burned 22 pages very quickly. Too bad you don't have an &quot;END&quot; button in the BBS software.
 
Can't you just click on page #???

Like, page 22....were here at the end!

I actually sat here and read the whole damn thread!!!
Haven't been here very long(member), is this the longest thread?

Really gotta take a leak now, laterz
 
FuzzMuncher:

Uh, well now it ends at page 22, but this a.m. it had a &quot;NEXT&quot; button after the 22. I had to click the &quot;NEXT&quot; button a few times to get to the end.

The mods have done something! 😛

Edit: Oh, wait, I see now, you get the &quot;NEXT&quot; button after every page except at the end. Doh! 😛 Was it that way this morning? At 5 a.m. I was a little ditzy. No coffee yet. 😛
 
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