I dunno about that. The showing I went to was at 12:30 PM and the theatre was almost full! People were cheering, clapping all during the movie. At the end though, everybody was AWWW CRAP!!! when they saw the "To Be Concluded" clip come up. Hehe.
oh yeah, 2 more things
1) no sex in first movie, lots and LOTS of innuendo's and so forth in this one. love conquers all theme?
2) in freeway scene, when several of the cars flipped over, you could clearly see roll cage re-inforcement and no drive axels!
1) no sex in first movie, lots and LOTS of innuendo's and so forth in this one. love conquers all theme?
2) in freeway scene, when several of the cars flipped over, you could clearly see roll cage re-inforcement and no drive axels!
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maybe when digital cameras have a little more resolution then the pathetic cams lucas used. i saw pixels, that sucked. not enough res to even show preview text without blockage. ick yes theres a 48fps film standard with extra resolution and smoother stability.. but unlikely to catch on
digital is fine if they ever get it way past film quality. but that ups the fx costs and its all about da money.I think that might be the clearest explanation I've seen yet. I don't know if its right, but it sounds pretty good, incorporating the choice idea.
I'm pretty sure that not Morpheus he's kicking.
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I thought about that too but, I can't fit Tank and Dozer (freeborns) into it... Also in the first movie Smith says he needs the codes in Morpheus's head to access to Zion's Mainframe. Why would an agent need to hack Zion if it was just another Matrix?? he could just go there.. That's why I think Zion is a seperate system not controlled by the Machines.
It makes sense to me. Those born outside of the Matrix will nonetheless be exposed to those who have rejected the Matrix program (the Free minds), and by meeting people who have escaped the "fake" reality, they don't realize they too just exist in another level of the fake reality.
It's quite a nice balance....reminds me of osmosis in biology.
Tank and Dozer are BORN in zion because that's how the Oracle wanted it. you have to think of zion in terms of being a separate matrix still controlled by the architect and the oracle.
same holds true for Smith. Smith is an agent of the Matrix, hence he is restricted by the rules of that existence. when he breaks free from his command structure, he has some different choices, hence he's able to enter zion.
right now, ur seeing the breakdown of the boundries as established by the oracle and the architect. they had intended on using Neo to destroy it all so that it could start another iteration of the matrix, but he saw that Zion wasn't reality and he choose to save Trinity instead.
now the next movie. he has to find someway to exit the matrix. it'll be interesting how they end it. will it be a typical feel good hollywood ending (btw i'm not knocking them, i like feel good endings) or will it be a "Brazil" type ending.
anyone remember that movie "Brazil" from like 20 yrs ago?
I think the first Matrix movie hit you with a lot of new ideas, but the second one had more food for thought. It made you think a lot more about the complexities. It also had lots of ambiguities. I didn?t like the ending though. I understand the value of leaving the audience hanging, especially for the next on in November, but still, I?d like some resolution. It felt like LOTR Fellowship of the Rings all over again, and maybe worse. Also, that Rave scene seemed too long and kinda irrelevant to the movie, also it just added to the primal/medieval impression of Zion with all the rough gears and rough clothing. Overall tho, the movie was entertaining, and some of the fight scenes were awesome, but others were mediocre. Matrix Reloaded is gonna inspired a lot of talk, contemplation, and speculation.
Speaking of Tank, why wasn't he in this movie? He was cool!
I didn't like who they replaced him with (Link)
I didn't like who they replaced him with (Link)
Save for the action scenes, the lines and plot were terrible. I'm tired of this pseudo-intellectual bullcrap. It was kind of bearable in the first one, but they went overboard in this one. It was entertaining, if only for the action scenes and special effects. And the Zion scenes were just irrelevant and a waste of time.
Could you elaborate on what is bogus in the dialog and plot. Many people think it's pretty sophisticated, especially for an action movie.
why not? neo is really powerful in the matrix, so he can fly really fast, what is difficult about that?
one thing i find interesting is that by flying really fast in the city to save trinity he killed a lot of innocent people in the matrix.
Ok, First, the Oracle NEVER says Neo isn't the One. NEVER.
Second, that French due talks about surviving the Matrix revisions and Neo's predecessors, so he can't be the one (as someone was theorizing about). (Just got back from a second time, missed TONS of stuff the first time)
Go see it a second time. It seems like Neo was the first anomily or something that actually had true power in the real world or the second matrix is something that can be controlled and truely conquered, but I'd believe the former first, as there is no references that I could detect to a second matrix.
Def. go see it a few times, you'll discover new stuff all the time.
Second, that French due talks about surviving the Matrix revisions and Neo's predecessors, so he can't be the one (as someone was theorizing about). (Just got back from a second time, missed TONS of stuff the first time)
Go see it a second time. It seems like Neo was the first anomily or something that actually had true power in the real world or the second matrix is something that can be controlled and truely conquered, but I'd believe the former first, as there is no references that I could detect to a second matrix.
Def. go see it a few times, you'll discover new stuff all the time.
does anyone know the filename of the trailer at the end on the movie? .ahem...kazaa...ahem I watched the movie but missed the trailer
or can someone host it??
or can someone host it??
Originally posted by: Kwan1
does anyone know the filename of the trailer at the end on the movie? .ahem...kazaa...ahem I watched the movie but missed the trailer
or can someone host it??
Use the search function, you lazy ass.
Seventh one down on a search for Matrix, second for Revolutions.
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