Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
By the way, in regards to EMPs and their effects on biological tissue:
Current-day EMP technology relies on microwaves to provide the "knockout punch" that disables the electronics. Microwaves excite water molecules. Humans are 50-70 percent water. Please make the connection yourself.
Low intensities would have little effect due to the relatively short duration of the pulse (less than a millisecond) but a powerful enough discharge or short-range blast would do some serious damage.
- M4H
no, it doesn't mean "Enter the Matrix", it's a hack code for the Enter the Matrix VIDEO GAMEOriginally posted by: MC Webster
That's it? It just means Enter The Matrix? Why would they make a big deal out of that?
Is there any groundbreaking blacked out stuff on The Matrix website that gives any hints about the truth?
Originally posted by: wviperw
I was thinking a little more about the different layers of matrix and whatnot...
Why are we stopping at just two layers of the Matrix? In fact, why are we stopping at six or seven layers as well? Think about it--Neo ASSUMED the world in which he was living as Thomas Anderson was reality. Then, Neo (and us) ASSUMED that the world in which Zion exists is reality. Coming away from the second movie, we are ASSUMING this Zion world is also a layer of the Matrix, and that there is still a reality which Neo will be able to get to.
So what if there isn't. What if the reality which the humans in the Matrix so desparately try to attain is unattainable? What if there are an infinte number of Matrixes?
Is that worth fighting for? Is that worth dying for?
But seriously, I think thats a possible direction Revolutions might go as well. It wouldn't be your typical Hollywood ending and would be somewhat depressing, but I think it'd be a cool direction to take.
Originally posted by: wviperw
I was thinking a little more about the different layers of matrix and whatnot...
Why are we stopping at just two layers of the Matrix? In fact, why are we stopping at six or seven layers as well? Think about it--Neo ASSUMED the world in which he was living as Thomas Anderson was reality. Then, Neo (and us) ASSUMED that the world in which Zion exists is reality. Coming away from the second movie, we are ASSUMING this Zion world is also a layer of the Matrix, and that there is still a reality which Neo will be able to get to.
You're reaching and I disagree. Quite frankly the CGI at parts of this movie was subpar. We've seen better in star wars and lord of the rings. If you still don't believe that parts of the CGI were subpar you can load up the reloaded trailer that shows one of the agents on the highway scene as he jumps on the hood of a car. It goes slow motion and if you can't see the cartoonish aspect to the character your eyes need to be checked. I've seen better and you've seen better.Taking that into consideration I decided to relax a bit as I watched the movie, try to enjoy the fight scenes to the fullest extent and I pity those who don't like them just because they look to CGI of which they don't because I bet you couldn't tell a CGI Smith next to the real smith in the fight scene with 100 smiths. the only reason it looked fake was because there were so many Smiths that looked completely identical and Neo was doing impossible feats, put those two together and our mind cannot relate such a thing as being completely possible. Had they made 99.9% perfect clones of Hugo Weaving (Agent Smith) and had all 100 fight right infront of you you wouldn't think that it looked real either, especially if they were moving faster and jumping higher than humanly possible.
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I found it, compared to the first, quite underwhelming. It was a connect the dot of fights with a weak plot at best. Plus the fighting just frankly got boring. It was a big wire string mess and the CGI for the fight with the bar at one point I was sure I was looking at a real time render of what they must use on the console version of the matrix game.
Not to sound too harsh because the movie was ok, just a dissapointment for me and I think that a lot of people are going to find it was less to them than the first. Certainly in no hurry to see it again.
It's easier to pick out unrealistic aspects when the 3d model is of a human... have you ever seen an orc-dog in person? I'll admit some of the movement was a little awkward, like the way the agents bounced back after being hit by the neo, but the detail on the faces were amazing. After an awkward movement, it'd focus on the face, which then seemed like they fused clips of animation with live-motion segments when in reality, it's all computer generated.Originally posted by: Skoorb
You're reaching and I disagree. Quite frankly the CGI at parts of this movie was subpar. We've seen better in star wars and lord of the rings. If you still don't believe that parts of the CGI were subpar you can load up the reloaded trailer that shows one of the agents on the highway scene as he jumps on the hood of a car. It goes slow motion and if you can't see the cartoonish aspect to the character your eyes need to be checked. I've seen better and you've seen better.Taking that into consideration I decided to relax a bit as I watched the movie, try to enjoy the fight scenes to the fullest extent and I pity those who don't like them just because they look to CGI of which they don't because I bet you couldn't tell a CGI Smith next to the real smith in the fight scene with 100 smiths. the only reason it looked fake was because there were so many Smiths that looked completely identical and Neo was doing impossible feats, put those two together and our mind cannot relate such a thing as being completely possible. Had they made 99.9% perfect clones of Hugo Weaving (Agent Smith) and had all 100 fight right infront of you you wouldn't think that it looked real either, especially if they were moving faster and jumping higher than humanly possible.
Good CGI for the 100 smiths may have been difficult with all that was going on but it could have been done. However, excusing that there is simply no reason for the agent on the hood of that car to look so bad. It was the worst CGI I've seen in recent times and utterly unacceptable for a movie of this supposed caliber and budget. Check out the trailer if you need reminding. Then go watch lord of the rings - perhaps the cave troll in LOTR1 or those orc-dogs in LOTR2. The contrast is huge. The scene was rushed and I am surprised it was let through on Matrix R.
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I found it, compared to the first, quite underwhelming. It was a connect the dot of fights with a weak plot at best. Plus the fighting just frankly got boring. It was a big wire string mess and the CGI for the fight with the bar at one point I was sure I was looking at a real time render of what they must use on the console version of the matrix game.
Not to sound too harsh because the movie was ok, just a dissapointment for me and I think that a lot of people are going to find it was less to them than the first. Certainly in no hurry to see it again.
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
As far as noticing the CG, it's easy, the textures on the clothes wasn't right, and the hands are always a dead give away.
I also noticed the wire a few times, like in the fight with the keeper of the oracle.
To much wire-fu in the movie.
Originally posted by: Taggart
From Roger Ebert's review of TMR a few days ago:
"That will not prevent fanboys from analyzing the philosophy of "The Matrix Reloaded" in endless Web postings."
Teehee
You guys are great!
Originally posted by: MachFive
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
As far as noticing the CG, it's easy, the textures on the clothes wasn't right, and the hands are always a dead give away.
I also noticed the wire a few times, like in the fight with the keeper of the oracle.
To much wire-fu in the movie.
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.
Look at me be a critical asshat!!! Whoooopeeeeee!
Let's try it this way - Since the first Matrix came out, has there been a SINGLE action movie that possessed anywhere near its intelligence and intensity?
No. Not a one. A couple came within a few miles, but none got close.
Unless I missed something completely in the last 4 years.
Originally posted by: maladroit
Originally posted by: MachFive
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
As far as noticing the CG, it's easy, the textures on the clothes wasn't right, and the hands are always a dead give away.
I also noticed the wire a few times, like in the fight with the keeper of the oracle.
To much wire-fu in the movie.
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.
Look at me be a critical asshat!!! Whoooopeeeeee!
Let's try it this way - Since the first Matrix came out, has there been a SINGLE action movie that possessed anywhere near its intelligence and intensity?
No. Not a one. A couple came within a few miles, but none got close.
Unless I missed something completely in the last 4 years.
Nope, you haven't missed anything. These peoples' gripes with the special effects are on par with the blue-screen effect you cann notice while Merry and Pippin ride Treebeard in TTT. They're just being picky. Maybe it makes them feel special?
Originally posted by: koolhand
So who was the kid that followed Neo around when he was in Zion?
Mouse? I thought he died?