OFFICIAL Killzone 3 Thread [Release Date confirmed]

[RavenSEAL]

Ok, it's no battlefield bc2 then. Take your pick. It's about on the same level as medal of honor. Boring and derivative, and doesn't play as well as it should.

It's like the nickleback of FPS - nobody's favorite.

You take it as though this is still 1994. Patches exist. No game is perfect at release, BO was pathetic when it came out, still isn't any better.

BTW, what do you mean when you say it doesn't play as it should? I saw no problems with KZ2 controls and i see no problems with KZ3 controls. Just because you're used to weapons being physically non-existant in CoD games doesn't mean other games can't add that factor of realism.

Honestly, the only people i ever hear whining about controls are those that usually suck at the game.

 

[American Gunner]

calling the most popular FPS franchise or all time on consoles "trash" is just a stupid comment to make, regardless of whether or not you like the game.

By your wording, Sims is the best franchise in gaming history. Just because little kids enjoy a game, it doesn't mean it is great.

 

[BD2003]

To start with, it's a 30fps game, so input lag is already a problem. It's improved over KZ2, but it's not as responsive as it could be.

Also, the sensitivity feels all wrong. You get it to a fast enough speed at hip, and it moves too fast when aiming. Get it to feel right in ADS, and you're like a sloth at hip. Again, it's better than KZ2, but it's still not good enough.

Also, I'm not a fan of how the enemies are basically bullet sponges and take forever to take down.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's crap. It's decent, but it's nothing special. It's not going to be anybody's favorite FPS of all time.

 

[purbeast0]

Just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good...I can name about a dozen games better than CoD that sold less copies than BO did in a day.

yea and all of the positive reviews and feedback about it must all mean it isn't a good game either.

there is a huge difference between you not liking a game and a game being a bad game. you apparently can't see that.

edit:

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/call-of-duty-black-ops
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/call-of-duty-4-modern-warfare

yea ... such a "trash" series, as oppose to ...

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/killzone
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/killzone-2
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/killzone-3

 

[American Gunner]

yea and all of the positive reviews and feedback about it must all mean it isn't a good game either.

there is a huge difference between you not liking a game and a game being a bad game. you apparently can't see that.

edit:

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/call-of-duty-black-ops
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/call-of-duty-4-modern-warfare

yea ... such a "trash" series, as oppose to ...

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/killzone
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/killzone-2
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/killzone-3

Using reviewers to sell your point is sad. Modern Warfare 2 was a mess, a horrible, short story and one of the most broken online games I have played in recent history, yet all the reviewers loved it. Keep believing the Call of Duty series is the greatest, you will get to miss out on some awesome shooters while you play the same game every year with new perks and killstreaks.

 

[PimpJuice]

Just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good...I can name about a dozen games better than CoD that sold less copies than BO did in a day.

As much as you hate on CoD, why did you buy all the CoD games including Black Ops? You are a regular poster in the BO thread and only recently stopped playing it.

 

[BD2003]

Using reviewers to sell your point is sad. Modern Warfare 2 was a mess, a horrible, short story and one of the most broken online games I have played in recent history, yet all the reviewers loved it. Keep believing the Call of Duty series is the greatest, you will get to miss out on some awesome shooters while you play the same game every year with new perks and killstreaks.

I play nearly every shooter that's released, even the third rate ones. CoD is still the top of the heap.

The story of the killzone series is equally ridiculous. Replace German Nazis with space Nazis. It's not vanquish story bad, but it's still kinda retarded.

 

[PimpJuice]

Just because you're used to weapons being physically non-existant in CoD games doesn't mean other games can't add that factor of realism.

Honestly, the only people i ever hear whining about controls are those that usually suck at the game.

1) The only thing realistic about the controls in K2 were that they really sucked. There is a reason they fixed the controls with a patch. If it wasn't broken why would they fix it.

2) People complained about the controls because they were clunky and annoying, not because they suck at the game. I was quite good at the game but quit playing due to the controls. It played like the game was always lagging and unresponsive.

Its amusing what a blind fanboy you are.

All that said, I do hope they improve the controls and feel of the game. I think K2 had great potential (revolving game types, classes, weapons). It just didn't play as it should MOSTLY because of the controls. Either way, I'm hoping for the best but I still have my doubts they can deliver.

 

[American Gunner]

I play nearly every shooter that's released, even the third rate ones. CoD is still the top of the heap.

The story of the killzone series is equally ridiculous. Replace German Nazis with space Nazis. It's not vanquish story bad, but it's still kinda retarded.

I thought that while there were holes in the story of KZ2, it had some good moments. And I don't see how anyone can get excited to spend $60 on the same game every year, and then buy overpriced map packs. I just hope that one day they do go a subscription for online on COD and all the blind fanboys will end up spending as much for one game as they did for the console they play it on every year. You guys can keep your trash.

 

[purbeast0]

Using reviewers to sell your point is sad. Modern Warfare 2 was a mess, a horrible, short story and one of the most broken online games I have played in recent history, yet all the reviewers loved it. Keep believing the Call of Duty series is the greatest, you will get to miss out on some awesome shooters while you play the same game every year with new perks and killstreaks.

eh i dont think the current CoD is the greatest at all. i don't even own black ops, and gave up on MW2 quickly because I did not like the maps online and all the comotion with the rewards. main gripe was the maps though. CoD4:MW on the other hand is the pinnacle of the CoD series IMO.

still doesn't mean the recent ones are bad games, i simply have reasons why i personally don't like them. it does what it is supposed to do extremely well.

and i'm done w/this thread until i play kz3 because this has gotten totally derailed by blind fanboyism.

 

[Beev]

I got CoD4 and hated the campaign. It bored me. Never gave the multiplayer a shot.

I got MW2 and reasonably enjoyed the campaign and the multiplayer was just ok.

Black Ops was just terrible, imo. Bad on all accounts really.

I need a new shooter. Maybe KZ3 will fill that void for me.

Sorry for typing like this. I was making a list and just realized it looked stupid, but I don't feel like fixing it

 

[American Gunner]

I just got my PS3 and played thru the campaign on KZ2 once so that I would know what was going on. I didn't even play the online yet. I did play the beta for KZ3 and enjoyed it. BD's comment about players being bullet sponges is a little off. I got killed quickly at first. Only after I got the armor was I able to take a few shots, but it wasn't overpowered armor. I would still die with one shotgun blast, and the rifles wouldn't take long to kill me. I still enjoyed it, and ended up with a K/D spread of 1.4.

 

[RavenSEAL]

As much as you hate on CoD, why did you buy all the CoD games including Black Ops? You are a regular poster in the BO thread and only recently stopped playing it.

I stopped buying CoD after 2, bought black ops. That is all...

 

[RavenSEAL]

eh i dont think the current CoD is the greatest at all. i don't even own black ops, and gave up on MW2 quickly because I did not like the maps online and all the comotion with the rewards. main gripe was the maps though. CoD4:MW on the other hand is the pinnacle of the CoD series IMO.

still doesn't mean the recent ones are bad games, i simply have reasons why i personally don't like them. it does what it is supposed to do extremely well.

and i'm done w/this thread until i play kz3 because this has gotten totally derailed by blind fanboyism.

Game and MP demos are already up, don't understand what you're waiting for.

Oh, nvm, that's right, you installed homebrew on your PS3.

 

[RavenSEAL]

yea and all of the positive reviews and feedback about it must all mean it isn't a good game either.

there is a huge difference between you not liking a game and a game being a bad game. you apparently can't see that.

edit:

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/call-of-duty-black-ops
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/call-of-duty-4-modern-warfare

yea ... such a "trash" series, as oppose to ...

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/killzone
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/killzone-2
http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/killzone-3

You wanna know the difference? Look at the user reviews...

6.x's not looking so good after 2.3k+ reviews on MW2 and BO.

"Professional reviewers" have lost all possible credibility.

 

[American Gunner]

You wanna know the difference? Look at the user reviews...

6.x's not looking so good after 2.3k+ reviews on MW2 and BO.

"Professional reviewers" have lost all possible credibility.

Wow, I didn't notice how awful it was scored by the real "reviewers". But it is still the best thing ever RavenSEAL.

 

[crisium]

Killzone 2 was the best multiplayer FPS I played since Call of Duty 4. After playing the KZ3 Beta, I have no doubt KZ3 will be the premier console FPS. The main downside to KZ2 were the controls. Weighty is good, and the third game does it just right. But the second was ridiculously exaggerated. I still had a hell of a good time with it, but it was flawed. I had no problems with the controls for KZ3 beta. I cannot wait.

Definitely a game to check out, even if you didn't like the KZ2 aiming. They did indeed fix it while still making it a bit less twitchy than CoD (which is good).

Single player looks to be garbage, which is a shame since I liked KZ2's campaign. Oh well.

One thing I don't like is that Squads appear to be gone. No custom spawn points is probably a good thing since it got too chaotic at times in KZ2, but spawning with your squad leader is a must and without this ability KZ3 will be tactically inferior. Unless this feature is present and I missed it. I loved being a medic and reviving my squad leader so that the other 2 Squad members could keep respawning with good positioning. If this is gone then it's a damn shame.

edit: Apparently there are squads, but you can't spawn on your leader and it's a pain in the ass to invite people as compared to KZ2. What a waste. What serious waste. I understand that they wanted more control over spawning than KZ2 which was a mess at times, but simply getting rid of custom spawn points fixes that problem imo. Spawning with your squad leader should return.

 

[American Gunner]

How do you know the campaign will be garbage?

 

[crisium]

Just believing what all the reviews say. Garbage is too hard a word I suppose because I'm sure the running and gunning will be satisfying. But the story is supposed to be a mess and there are frequent cut scenes that break up the action - and not in a good way.

 

[Beev]

Played the single player demo last night. It is a pass for me. Nothing particularly bad about it, but it was underwhelming and didn't really grab me.

Also, most user reviews are a total waste of the insignificant bandwidth they use. Almost all of them are:

1. Some butthurt player that either sucks or doesn't like a couple of the design choices

2. Some asskiss who gives every game in the franchise (or by the company) a 10

3. Someone who is one of the two listed above, but knows that he needs to give the a game a 3-6 so that he doesn't look like a fanboy or hater, yet is in fact a fanboy or hater.

Professional reviews, while not worth listening to either, will at least give an objective viewpoint. I noticed that I tend to agree with 1up, so I always check their review and see what they had to say, ignoring the score.

 

[hans030390]

I feel like most campaigns in FPS games aren't that great. The last FPS I remember playing with a great campaign was the original Halo.

 

[RavenSEAL]

Played the single player demo last night. It is a pass for me. Nothing particularly bad about it, but it was underwhelming and didn't really grab me.

Also, most user reviews are a total waste of the insignificant bandwidth they use. Almost all of them are:

1. Some butthurt player that either sucks or doesn't like a couple of the design choices

2. Some asskiss who gives every game in the franchise (or by the company) a 10

3. Someone who is one of the two listed above, but knows that he needs to give the a game a 3-6 so that he doesn't look like a fanboy or hater, yet is in fact a fanboy or hater.

Professional reviews, while not worth listening to either, will at least give an objective viewpoint. I noticed that I tend to agree with 1up, so I always check their review and see what they had to say, ignoring the score.

How are "possessional reviewers" any different? Nothing is stopping them from getting bribed by the publishers. I wouldn't be surprised if activision might have dropped a few Benjamins on their way out of a few publisher's office.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

Professional reviews, while not worth listening to either, will at least give an objective viewpoint.

Really? Do you know how reviewers make money? Advertisements. And who would advertise with a game magazine or website? You guessed it, developer/pubs. Every "objective" review is bought and paid for buddy, wake up.

The only reviews I pay any attention to are the gamers themselves, because they have almost no vested interest in the game being bad 90% of the time. Thus. I find the bad reviews and see if I agree with them after some play time. I loved KZ3 for the first 3-5 hours, but after really feeling the game for awhile and reading about the design choices by GG I can comfortably tell you this game will suck.

People will buy this game in droves and hail it as a great FPS because their psychological denial that they just wasted $60 on a piece of shovelware will force them to advertise it as such to the world. That's why I'm not bothering to read most of these threads because I draw plenty of heat for my honest opinion.

 

[RavenSEAL]

People will buy this game in droves and hail it as a great FPS because their psychological denial that they just wasted $60 on a piece of shovelware will force them to advertise it as such to the world. That's why I'm not bothering to read most of these threads because I draw plenty of heat for my honest opinion.

Isn't that what CoD is lol?

 

[BD2003]

Isn't that what CoD is lol?

No. CoD has super responsive controls, a perfect frame rate, and consistent quality. The KZ series has none of the above. It just has great graphics. Other than that, it's a standard run of the mill game that gets more attention than it deserves because it's a flagship for a platform.