Official Election 2008 Results Thread - State

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

Incorrect. And please leave the state. The overall IQ of the state will go up.

Against better judgement I will edit this out...as I don't think the mods will appreciate my using the term fuck face as a descriptor

Capt, you're exactly what is wrong with this state...just another moron.

But honestly I would love to move away from this shit hole...grew up here my entire life, moved away and loved being near DC, unfortunately my wife wants to work and live here since she likes her job so I guess you're stuck with me Capt, deal with it.

You ignorance is scary. Do you know that MA public school systems (elementary thru high school) is ranked number 2 in the country? http://www.statestats.com/edrank.htm

Thankfully, the smart citizens of the Commonwealth of MA know better than the less intelligent ones.

Moron? I'm not the one spouting off ignorance.

 

[smashp]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
I voted for all 5 issues in Ohio

1. Make the deadline for ballot issues 125 days.

2. Bond issue to continue the clean ohio program.

3. Protection of water property rights.

4. (withdrawn from ballot before election)

5. Payday loans limited to 28% APR, capped at $500 lending, minimum 30 day repayment period.

6. Casino near wilmington, OH.

I did

Yes on 2 and 5

No on 1 3 and 6

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

You ignorance is scary. Do you know that MA public school systems (elementary thru high school) is ranked number 2 in the country? http://www.statestats.com/edrank.htm

Thankfully, the smart citizens of the Commonwealth of MA know better than the less intelligent ones.

Moron? I'm not the one spouting off ignorance.

Do you have children? you use google to whip one link out of your ass and that is definitive proof that state schools here are awesome...

Sorry chief, but having done more than a fair share of homework on the subject given that I am actually going to have to deal with it in the near future I would be hard pressed to send my daughter to any of the schools in the "affordable towns"...the one exception would be Braintree and even that isn't that great...

Thankfully they have some decent private schools in the area, which I was lucky enough to attend in my youth...

Having known many that were products of the MA public school system I have pity for anyone who uses those in towns like Revere, Lynn, Malden, Everett, Somerville, Woburn, Wakefield, Waltham, Quincy, Brockton, Abington, and I can go on and on and on....

Unless you're in Acton, Newton, Hingham, Wayland, Westford or a few other choice towns you're pretty screwed as far as education is concerned...the one exception is Boston Latin but that is an exam school and you have to live in the city to qualify for attendance.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

You ignorance is scary. Do you know that MA public school systems (elementary thru high school) is ranked number 2 in the country? http://www.statestats.com/edrank.htm

Thankfully, the smart citizens of the Commonwealth of MA know better than the less intelligent ones.

Moron? I'm not the one spouting off ignorance.

Do you have children? you use google to whip one link out of your ass and that is definitive proof that state schools here are awesome...

Sorry chief, but having done more than a fair share of homework on the subject given that I am actually going to have to deal with it in the near future I would be hard pressed to send my daughter to any of the schools in the "affordable towns"...the one exception would be Braintree and even that isn't that great...

Thankfully they have some decent private schools in the area, which I was lucky enough to attend in my youth...

Having known many that were products of the MA public school system I have pity for anyone who uses those in towns like Revere, Lynn, Malden, Everett, Somerville, Woburn, Wakefield, Waltham, Quincy, Brockton, Abington, and I can go on and on and on....

Unless you're in Acton, Newton, Hingham, Wayland, Westford or a few other choice towns you're pretty screwed as far as education is concerned...the one exception is Boston Latin but that is an exam school and you have to live in the city to qualify for attendance.

Provide me a link all smart one? Can you refute my link?

Just off the top of my head, how about Arlington, Lexington, Belmont, Needham, North Reading, Reading, Winchester, Milton, Westwood, Concord, Andover, Lynnfield, Littleton and I could go on and on?

You do know that Taxachussets only has the 36th highest tax burden in the country right?

 

[imported_Imp]

Wrong thread, woops.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Provide me a link all smart one? Can you refute my link?

Just off the top of my head, how about Arlington, Lexington, Belmont, Needham, North Reading, Reading, Winchester, Milton, Westwood, Concord, Andover, Lynnfield, Littleton and I could go on and on?

You do know that Taxachussets only has the 36th highest tax burden in the country right?

Why should I have to link anything?? you're the one that started this bitch fest...

And last I checked all of the towns you cited are those with pretty damn high property tax not to mention cost of living expenses and real estate...the school systems in the affordable towns suck, just like everywhere else...funny how the party of the middle class really doesn't help them at all in this state

The one thing I can be thankful for is that private school for us will be on the table...I feel truly sorry for those who cannot afford it in this state nor who can not afford to live in one of those more affluent Tony towns you mentioned as they are out of reach for many...

But then again I don't expect much from the morons in this state...afterall it did take them how long to vote for selling liquor on Sundays...and we also were dumb enough to vote down allowing beer and wine sales in supermarkets.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Provide me a link all smart one? Can you refute my link?

Just off the top of my head, how about Arlington, Lexington, Belmont, Needham, North Reading, Reading, Winchester, Milton, Westwood, Concord, Andover, Lynnfield, Littleton and I could go on and on?

You do know that Taxachussets only has the 36th highest tax burden in the country right?

Why should I have to link anything?? you're the one that started this bitch fest...

And last I checked all of the towns you cited are those with pretty damn high property tax not to mention cost of living expenses and real estate...the school systems in the affordable towns suck, just like everywhere else...funny how the party of the middle class really doesn't help them at all in this state

The one thing I can be thankful for is that private school for us will be on the table...I feel truly sorry for those who cannot afford it in this state nor who can not afford to live in one of those more affluent Tony towns you mentioned as they are out of reach for many...

But then again I don't expect much from the morons in this state...afterall it did take them how long to vote for selling liquor on Sundays...and we also were dumb enough to vote down allowing beer and wine sales in supermarkets.

You do know that paying for private schooling is more expensive than living in a town with a good school system and higher property taxes right? A thousand or more in property tax for a better school system (K-12) is better than paying tens of thousands every year for a private school.

Affordable housing can be found in any of the towns I've mentioned. You might have to downsize but housing values are higher and maintain there value better for a reason.

You seriously need to do some more research. And complaining about liquor sales on sunday and in supermarkets is weaksauce. Even some of the towns you look down on have better school systems than many towns in this country. They still graduate students that go to top colleges.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
You do know that paying for private schooling is more expensive than living in a town with a good school system and higher property taxes right? A thousand or more in property tax for a better school system (K-12) is better than paying tens of thousands every year for a private school.

Affordable housing can be found in any of the towns I've mentioned. You might have to downsize but housing values are higher and maintain there value better for a reason.

You seriously need to do some more research. And complaining about liquor sales on sunday and in supermarkets is weaksauce. Even some of the towns you look down on have better school systems than many towns in this country. They still graduate students that go to top colleges.

Quantify "better"....if your sole criteria is cheaper than sure, but also one must factor in the cost of the house and its maintenance...

I would rather spend five or ten thousand a year more in private education than support the public school system in this state, which is why I am all for tax credits and vouchers for private schooling.

Sure affordable housing can be found in any town, if you want a condo or a shack...the reality is downsizing really is "downsizing" when one talks of Lexington, Newton, Wayland or the like...

And the towns I look down on suck period...try making an argument for Slumerville or Lynn...thankfully I don't live in one of those shitholes....heck even the ghetto sends students to Ivy league from time to time...but they are still shitty schools in the ghetto.

 

[abaez]

Prop 8 is losing by quite a bit.. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20...sults/county/#CAI01map ugh.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: abaez
Prop 8 is losing by quite a bit.. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20...sults/county/#CAI01map ugh.

I'm very surprised. 55-45. I talked to a friend and it makes sense. A lot of people are against it but they won't speak out for it. I'm in CA and in the past 2 weeks all I've seen is No on 8 ads. I've seen about 3 Yes on 8 ads but about 100 No on 8 ads. You would think people would vote No, but wow. I'm surprised.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
You do know that paying for private schooling is more expensive than living in a town with a good school system and higher property taxes right? A thousand or more in property tax for a better school system (K-12) is better than paying tens of thousands every year for a private school.

Affordable housing can be found in any of the towns I've mentioned. You might have to downsize but housing values are higher and maintain there value better for a reason.

You seriously need to do some more research. And complaining about liquor sales on sunday and in supermarkets is weaksauce. Even some of the towns you look down on have better school systems than many towns in this country. They still graduate students that go to top colleges.

Quantify "better"....if your sole criteria is cheaper than sure, but also one must factor in the cost of the house and its maintenance...

I would rather spend five or ten thousand a year more in private education than support the public school system in this state, which is why I am all for tax credits and vouchers for private schooling.

Sure affordable housing can be found in any town, if you want a condo or a shack...the reality is downsizing really is "downsizing" when one talks of Lexington, Newton, Wayland or the like...

And the towns I look down on suck period...try making an argument for Slumerville or Lynn...thankfully I don't live in one of those shitholes....heck even the ghetto sends students to Ivy league from time to time...but they are still shitty schools in the ghetto.

Why? You're just going to disagree with whatever I say. All I can say is do some more research on towns, school systems, etc...

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: abaez
Prop 8 is losing by quite a bit.. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20...sults/county/#CAI01map ugh.

Unfortunately AZ Prop 102 is winning big...bigo...bigot...bigots!

 

[ChaoZ]

Originally posted by: abaez
Prop 8 is losing by quite a bit.. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/20...sults/county/#CAI01map ugh.

You mean it's winning and it sucks.

 

[Newbian]

Originally posted by: Newbian
Anyone have a heads up on the prostitution decriminalization in SF?

Need to know if it's vacation time.

Anyone hear anything about this?

 

[ModerateRepZero]

for NJ...

Lautenberg won re-election 55% - 43%

there were 2 ballot questions:

Question - 1-Voter Bond Approval - Ballot Issue
November 04, 2008 - 11:44PM ET
New Jersey - 6142 of 6296 Precincts Reporting - 98%
Name Votes Vote %
Yes 1,145,169 57%
No 854,059 43%


Question - 2-Judicial Appointment - Ballot Issue
November 04, 2008 - 11:41PM ET
New Jersey - 6142 of 6296 Precincts Reporting - 98%
Name Votes Vote %
No 1,092,614 55%
Yes 899,333 45%


http://www.nj.com/elections/in...esults-ballotquestions

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Why? You're just going to disagree with whatever I say. All I can say is do some more research on towns, school systems, etc...

Likewise...

As I said, short of a few good towns there isn't any "reasonable" area where I would feel comfortable sending my child, and thankfully my wife is in total agreement though she leans more towards moving to a nicer town that will bankrupt us than private schooling, then again she is far more liberal and frugal than I am.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Why? You're just going to disagree with whatever I say. All I can say is do some more research on towns, school systems, etc...

Likewise...

As I said, short of a few good towns there isn't any "reasonable" area where I would feel comfortable sending my child, and thankfully my wife is in total agreement.

:laugh: You would have thought with your private school education you could afford to live in a town with a good school system.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: ironwing
Unfortunately AZ Prop 102 is winning big...bigo...bigot...bigots!

Thanksfully florida passed theirs also

 

[imported_Lothar]

Baltimore County, MD Ballot Questions...

Question A: Charter Amendment
Qualifications of Council Members

"AN ACT to amend the County Charter to remove the prohibition on qualifying or serving as a member of the County Council while holding employment with the State."

I voted against this charter ammendment.
You either work for the federal, state or local government. You shouldn't be allowed to work for all three, or any combination of them at once.

Question B

"This question was not certified for inclusion on the ballot."

Question C: County Ordinance
School Borrowing

"AN ORDINANCE to authorize and empower Baltimore County, Maryland to borrow $105,204,000 for school projects to be undertaken in the ensuing fiscal years starting July 1, 2009 pursuant to Sections 705(a) and 718 of the Baltimore County Charter."

I voted for this ordinance.
Common sense. No commentary required.

Question D: County Ordinance
Parks, Preservation and Greenways Borrowing

"AN ORDINANCE to authorize and empower Baltimore County, Maryland to borrow $5,000,000 for parks, preservation and greenways projects to be undertaken in the ensuing fiscal years starting July 1, 2009 pursuant to Sections 705(a) and 718 of the Baltimore County Charter."

I voted against this ordinance.
I don't care about these stupid things. Anyone who wants to have them can donate their money to them.

Question E: County Ordinance
Public Works Borrowing

"AN ORDINANCE to authorize and empower Baltimore County, Maryland to borrow $84,400,000 for public works purposes, for the class of projects which includes, among other things, streets and highways, bridges and storm drainage systems, to be undertaken in the ensuing fiscal years starting July 1, 2009 pursuant to Sections 705(a) and 718 of the Baltimore County Charter."

I voted against this ordinance.
Waste of money. They have repainted my street for the 2nd time in 3 years.

Question F: County Ordinance
Community and Economic Improvement Borrowing

"AN ORDINANCE to authorize and empower Baltimore County, Maryland to borrow $4,000,000 for community and economic improvement and development projects to be undertaken in the ensuing fiscal years starting July 1, 2009 pursuant to Sections 705(a) and 718 of the Baltimore County Charter."

I voted against this ordinance.
It's not everything that the council puts on the ballot that one should vote "yes" for.

Question G: County Ordinance
Operational Buildings Borrowing

"AN ORDINANCE to authorize and empower Baltimore County, Maryland to borrow $13,400,000 for public operational buildings including, but not limited to, general, health, police, fire, recreation, libraries, senior center and detention buildings or facilities and necessary or desirable equipment, to be undertaken in the ensuing fiscal years starting July 1, 2009 pursuant to Sections 705(a) and 718 of the Baltimore County Charter."

I voted for this ordinance.
Common sense. No commentary required.

Question H: County Ordinance
Refuse Disposal Borrowing

"AN ORDINANCE to authorize and empower Baltimore County, Maryland to borrow $360,000 for refuse disposal projects to be undertaken in the ensuing fiscal years starting July 1, 2009 pursuant to Sections 705(a) and 718 of the Baltimore County Charter."

I voted against this ordinance.
I don't think my county(or area at least) has a "trash" problem.

Question I: County Ordinance
Community College Borrowing

"AN ORDINANCE to authorize and empower Baltimore County, Maryland to borrow $30,136,000 for community college projects to be undertaken in the ensuing fiscal years starting July 1, 2009 pursuant to Sections 705(a) and 718 of the Baltimore County Charter."

I voted against this ordinance.
It's not everything that the council puts on the ballot that one should vote "yes" for.

Question J: County Ordinance
Agricultural and Rural Land Preservation Borrowing

"AN ORDINANCE to authorize and empower Baltimore County, Maryland to borrow $6,000,000 for agricultural and rural land preservation projects to be undertaken in the ensuing fiscal years starting July 1, 2009 pursuant to Sections 705(a) and 718 of the Baltimore County Charter."

I voted against this ordinance.
It's not everything that the council puts on the ballot that one should vote "yes" for.

Question K: County Ordinance
Waterway Improvement Program Borrowing

"AN ORDINANCE to authorize and empower Baltimore County, Maryland to borrow $6,500,000 for waterway improvement projects to be undertaken in the ensuing fiscal years starting July 1, 2009 pursuant to Sections 705(a) and 718 of the Baltimore County Charter."

I voted against this ordinance.
It's not everything that the council puts on the ballot that one should vote "yes" for.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
:laugh: You would have thought with your private school education you could afford to live in a town with a good school system.

Capt, just because you went to a substandard school there is no need to be jealous...and the school my wife attended was far nicer than mine, both highschool, college, and graduate school.

And like I said my wife is cheap, when the time comes hopefully we will have moved out of this state and down to North Carolina or into a nicer town.

But one thing is for sure, I won't live in the same ghetto ville that you live in...or at least I presume given your defense of this shithole state...am I right in assuming you actually moved here from somewhere else?

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
:laugh: You would have thought with your private school education you could afford to live in a town with a good school system.

Capt, just because you went to a substandard school there is no need to be jealous...

And like I said my wife is cheap, when the time comes hopefully we will have moved out of this state and down to North Carolina or into a nicer town.

But one thing is for sure, I won't live in the same ghetto ville that you live in...or at least I presume given your defense of this shithole state...am I right in assuming you actually moved here from somewhere else?

:laugh: Yes, I went to a substandard school system. My Needham Public school system education allows me to live in any of the tony towns you can't afford to live in. But for now, I enjoy living in Cambridge. When I have kids, I'm probably off to Belmont.

Where do you live? What private school did you go to?

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Yes, I went to a substandard school system. My Needham Public school system education allows me to live in any of the tony towns you can't afford to live in. But for now, I enjoy living in Cambridge. When I have kids, I'm probably off to Belmont.

Where do you live? What private school did you go to?

Needham....lol..and let me guess you rent in cambridge? no wonder you're of the beliefs you are...it is bad enough I have to work there and want to plow down all those friggin bike riders daily...and where are my tax dollars going with that roadwork, takes them forever and a day just to repave near kendall Square...what a joke

Like I said, we can afford to live most anywhere in the state, especially if one even considers renting.

Belmont sucks, too congested, too close to the city, and massive amounts of money for virtually no land...the schools are ok but wouldn't rank them up with Winchester, Lexington, or especially not Newton....if I actually have to stomach living here I am moving to Westborough, at least out there you get a decent parcel of land and a nice smaller town.

As for where I live, sorry I don't divulge that info...but I did go to school in Hingham for grade school, jesuit catholic just outside of the city for high school, and then Umass Amherst for college...

Wheras my wife went to a very elite school in CT and then Smith followed by GW

And on the money front since you hinted at out inability to afford things...we have a pretty sizeable mortgage all things considered for a town house and pay more than what a decent private or catholic school would cost in day care fees...but have zero debt short of one new car payment...all things I am assuming you don't have to worry about.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Originally posted by: bozack

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Yes, I went to a substandard school system. My Needham Public school system education allows me to live in any of the tony towns you can't afford to live in. But for now, I enjoy living in Cambridge. When I have kids, I'm probably off to Belmont.

Where do you live? What private school did you go to?

Needham....lol..and let me guess you rent in cambridge?

Like I said, we can afford to live most anywhere in the state, especially if one even considers renting.

Belmont sucks, too congested, too close to the city, and massive amounts of money for virtually no land...the schools are ok but wouldn't rank them up with Winchester, Lexington, or especially not Newton....if I actually have to stomach living here I am moving to Westborough, at least out there you get a decent parcel of land and a nice smaller town.

As for where I live, sorry I don't divulge that info...but I did go to school in Hingham for grade school, jesuit catholic just outside of the city for high school, and then Umass Amherst for college...

Wheras my wife went to a very elite school in CT and then Smith followed by GW

And on the money front since you hinted at out inability to afford things...we have a pretty sizeable mortgage all things considered for a town house and pay more than what a decent private or catholic school would cost in day care fees...but have zero debt short of one new car payment...all things I am assuming you don't have to worry about.

No, I own a new custom built townhouse with a yard. Do your homework please, Belmont has one of the best public school systems in the state. Winchester and Lexington also have great school systems but I prefer being closer to the city.

You can't even afford a house in a below average town? Wow.

And no, I paid off my car years ago.

Sadly, I must admit I went to UMass, Amherst too. But went on to Babson College to get my MBA and in the future off to Med or Vet school.

Plow down those bike riders? You sound like a classy individual. You would have thought that private schooling would have taught you some manners.

 

[bozack]

Originally posted by: Capt Caveman

No, I own a new custom built townhouse with a yard. Do your homework please, Belmont has one of the best public school systems in the state. Winchester and Lexington also have great school systems but I prefer being closer to the city.

You can't even afford a house in a below average town? Wow.

And no, I paid off my car years ago.

Sadly, I must admit I went to UMass, Amherst too. But went on to Babson College to get my MBA and in the future off to Med or Vet school.

Man, you're a bigger moron than I thought...if anything I am rather proud that I went to UMass, even though it was a conservative such as myself's nightmare...but it was truly refreshing when compared to the smaller schools I was used to...first a slam on volunteer firefighters and now a digg at a respectable state school, how does that shoe taste?

And here you suggest that I am elitest...your comment about Umass really reaks of asshole to me.

And last I checked, one of the best certainly isn't "the best"....Winchester, Newton, Lexinton were in the top ten...with Blemont trailing in at fifteen...

And since when is any townhouse "custom built"...that needham education seems to be working out rather well for you huh...and a yard, wow what a luxury...always nice to see a liberal elitist, just lives right up to my expectations, thanks for that.

And fuck the bike riders in cambridge...most are assholes who pay little to no attention to cars around them.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: dbk
Liddy Dole....SEE YA

:thumbsup:

Good riddance to the fundie opportunist.