**OFFICIAL** Diablo 3 Thread

[rstrohkirch]

I use it as my main hand so my dagger OH is faster.

There isn't any benefit to having your fastest weapon in your OH. You just want your MH to have the highest base damage in a WW build.

 

[smackababy]

There isn't any benefit to having your fastest weapon in your OH. You just want your MH to have the highest base damage in a WW build.

The benefit is I can have a lower DPS, "stat stick" dagger.

 

[rstrohkirch]

The benefit is I can have a lower DPS, "stat stick" dagger.

A lot more damage comes from WW in 1.05 which means a low dps weapon in your off hand isn't as viable as it once was. You really should be running something in the high 600+ dps range and that assumes 200+ str with 150+ crit.

 

[Imp]

Found an Azurewrath and a unique monk claw thing... both mediocre.

So, everything seems to be getting more expensive on the AH. Tome of secrets are now 500 gold each -- they were like 50 a few weeks back. Gold is moving up slightly too. Did they get rid of dupers, or are people just leaving the game...

 

[smackababy]

A lot more damage comes from WW in 1.05 which means a low dps weapon in your off hand isn't as viable as it once was. You really should be running something in the high 600+ dps range and that assumes 200+ str with 150+ crit.

My dagger is 700 dps (which is low these days), 3.0 life steal, 92 CD and a socket.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

What was your playing start date?

PS, please update your post after completing Inferno without hitting the AH...

I started playing a little over a week ago.

PS, umm ok?

 

[TheUnk]

Found an Azurewrath and a unique monk claw thing... both mediocre.

So, everything seems to be getting more expensive on the AH. Tome of secrets are now 500 gold each -- they were like 50 a few weeks back. Gold is moving up slightly too. Did they get rid of dupers, or are people just leaving the game...

Are there any real money sinks in this game or is it just repairs?

Looks like creating gems gets expensive but personally I see myself only making a few and never needing to make more. I guess you can blow loads of gold on crafting items too at a chance to get what you want, but seems pointless if you can use that same money to get exactly what you want on the AH.

 

[Schfifty Five]

Are there any real money sinks in this game or is it just repairs?

Looks like creating gems gets expensive but personally I see myself only making a few and never needing to make more. I guess you can blow loads of gold on crafting items too at a chance to get what you want, but seems pointless if you can use that same money to get exactly what you want on the AH.

Repairs and AH fees are the only real ones I can think of.

 

[bonkers325]

Are there any real money sinks in this game or is it just repairs?

Looks like creating gems gets expensive but personally I see myself only making a few and never needing to make more. I guess you can blow loads of gold on crafting items too at a chance to get what you want, but seems pointless if you can use that same money to get exactly what you want on the AH.

no, there is no real money sink in the game. you can always just drop the gold on the floor and leave the game though..

 

[isekii]

You can get some amazing weapons by crafting. Costs are obviously associated with it.
Plans are super cheap. So might be good to purchase and have them.

 

[TheUnk]

You can get some amazing weapons by crafting. Costs are obviously associated with it.
Plans are super cheap. So might be good to purchase and have them.

Better than what can drop?

 

[isekii]

Better than what can drop?

Not better but comparable.
If you go on diablo forum and check out player profiles, you can see some of items created with the plans

example would be this guys main hand

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/SrslySam91-1775/hero/845576

This guys off had axe

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Stubbs-1150/hero/16097386

So while drops may yield highest possible rolls I think, you can still make amazing stuff crafting.

 

[smackababy]

Crafting can yield good items, but drops are better, faster, and cheaper.

 

[Imp]

Are there any real money sinks in this game or is it just repairs?

Looks like creating gems gets expensive but personally I see myself only making a few and never needing to make more. I guess you can blow loads of gold on crafting items too at a chance to get what you want, but seems pointless if you can use that same money to get exactly what you want on the AH.

Repairs if you're ball-sy and play high MP levels that kill you often.

Otherwise, gems, but after you hit radiant star, everything becomes expensive to the point of not being worh it. I think it's x3 ~x600k gold radiant stars to get 1 flawless something. The increase is something like 4 or 8 points for a primary stat. With about 2 million gold, you could get a pretty solid upgrade that may also include 8 extra points of VIT or your primary stat.

Crafting recipes are still stupidly rare for extravagant items and very expensive to buy, so you may as well just buy drops from the AH.

 

[smackababy]

I think the best gems cost like 16mil to make if you start with Flawless Squares.

 

[waterjug]

I just finished all of nightmare, and A1 hell, on MP10, and didn't see a single legendary. Guess my halcyon run is over haha

 

[TheUnk]

So whats the best way to get large DPS increases? Crit dmg/chance?

I'm at 70k with my Wizard now but I'm reading of people with up to 170k. The best item improvements so far have only been giving me like 5k more dmg, making 170k seem out of reach. I've noticed items with far less INT but high crit dmg % gives me more dps than high INT and no crit dmg %

 

[ch33zw1z]

So whats the best way to get large DPS increases? Crit dmg/chance?

I'm at 70k with my Wizard now but I'm reading of people with up to 170k. The best item improvements so far have only been giving me like 5k more dmg, making 170k seem out of reach. I've noticed items with far less INT but high crit dmg % gives me more dps than high INT and no crit dmg %

Sounds like 170k is buffed damage? Find out what skills they're using...and gear. You can open up the people list, right click, and view profile.

My Demon Hunter is 49k unbuffed, 105k buffed with SharpShooter.

 

[Schfifty Five]

So whats the best way to get large DPS increases? Crit dmg/chance?

I'm at 70k with my Wizard now but I'm reading of people with up to 170k. The best item improvements so far have only been giving me like 5k more dmg, making 170k seem out of reach. I've noticed items with far less INT but high crit dmg % gives me more dps than high INT and no crit dmg %

Can you link your profile so we can look at your current gear?

 

[digiram]

I look and see lots of people's gear that have high dps, but they have barely anything for survival. Why? How the hell do you survive and isn't it annoying to constantly die.

A buddy of mine found a witching hour recently. He let me borrow it. So, I modified my wiz gear and skillz for max dps, went up to something like 160k. I was like wow, awesome. Ran into my first reflects pack and died. Anyhow with this dps build, I was down to 23k hp, 4-500 AR, no loh, no ls. Not worth it. I would rather run with 80k dps, 35k+ hp, 2k loh and/or 3 ls with my sunkeeper that brings me down to 65k dps, 600 or so AR.

 

[darkewaffle]

So whats the best way to get large DPS increases? Crit dmg/chance?

I'm at 70k with my Wizard now but I'm reading of people with up to 170k. The best item improvements so far have only been giving me like 5k more dmg, making 170k seem out of reach. I've noticed items with far less INT but high crit dmg % gives me more dps than high INT and no crit dmg %

It's all linked. Generally whatever you have the "least" of will provide the greatest increase because of the multiplicative way DPS is calculated. If you're loaded on int, then cc/cd will be a better value (to a point, then it reverses again). ASPD is the same way, it's basically (A * B * C * D) and whichever of those is 'lowest' will provide the greatest increase. Though they don't have 1:1 relationships so determining the conversion is probably easiest through a DPS calculator of some sort.

I think most people shoot for 40%+ crit, 400%+ crit damage, as much primary stat as possible, and 15-30% aspd.

 

[Wyndru]

I look and see lots of people's gear that have high dps, but they have barely anything for survival. Why? How the hell do you survive and isn't it annoying to constantly die.

A buddy of mine found a witching hour recently. He let me borrow it. So, I modified my wiz gear and skillz for max dps, went up to something like 160k. I was like wow, awesome. Ran into my first reflects pack and died. Anyhow with this dps build, I was down to 23k hp, 4-500 AR, no loh, no ls. Not worth it. I would rather run with 80k dps, 35k+ hp, 2k loh and/or 3 ls with my sunkeeper that brings me down to 65k dps, 600 or so AR.

Yeah, I did this with my barb recently. I changed all my gear using high dps gear I had saved up, changed skills and doubled my DPS. I jumped into inferno on a level I previously farmed with no issue and started destroying whites. I was really excited until I hit my first elite pack and they mowed me down in a couple of seconds.

That was all for me, back to survival gear. I don't have enough gold to keep paying for repairs. Maybe when I have time I'll sit down and try to configure more of a balanced character, but for now it's all about survival, I don't mind it taking a little while to take down elites. It's still less time than dying and running back.

 

[isekii]

It's all linked. Generally whatever you have the "least" of will provide the greatest increase because of the multiplicative way DPS is calculated. If you're loaded on int, then cc/cd will be a better value (to a point, then it reverses again). ASPD is the same way, it's basically (A * B * C * D) and whichever of those is 'lowest' will provide the greatest increase. Though they don't have 1:1 relationships so determining the conversion is probably easiest through a DPS calculator of some sort.

I think most people shoot for 40%+ crit, 400%+ crit damage, as much primary stat as possible, and 15-30% aspd.

This is one way to get your DPS up

 

[bonkers325]

I look and see lots of people's gear that have high dps, but they have barely anything for survival. Why? How the hell do you survive and isn't it annoying to constantly die.

A buddy of mine found a witching hour recently. He let me borrow it. So, I modified my wiz gear and skillz for max dps, went up to something like 160k. I was like wow, awesome. Ran into my first reflects pack and died. Anyhow with this dps build, I was down to 23k hp, 4-500 AR, no loh, no ls. Not worth it. I would rather run with 80k dps, 35k+ hp, 2k loh and/or 3 ls with my sunkeeper that brings me down to 65k dps, 600 or so AR.

they put on gear with high dps so they can get ranked on some progress websites. glass cannon doesn't work on inferno anymore, unless you're a DH using old nat's set...

 

[BD231]

All you need is 1000-1400k loh up to mp 5 five and you shouldnt have issue. No reason to ignore dps gear, nor do u really need to stack much survival gear other than resist. I do 180k dps w my witch doctor and 1000 to 1400 loh keeps me alive fine. My rings ammy and belt suck too so theres more damage to be done yet.