**OFFICIAL** Diablo 3 Thread

[PhatoseAlpha]

I'm currently of the opinion the largest single problem with this game is ilvls 59, 60, 61 & 62. The first three serve absolutely no purpose at all, and 62 is only relevant on slots where there is no ilvl 63 item.

Two main problems here.

First, they all have the exact same level requirements - which means, due to the AH they become usable at the same time, and available at that time too. That means that the moment you can equip an ilvl 59-62 item, it's already obsolete. There is never any point in the entire game where you actually want a ilvl60 items.

Secondly, the gulf between the top item level and the one directly under it is huge. It's most obvious on weapons, where an excellent rare ilvl62 weapon is going to compare poorly to a decent magic ilvl63. But it's true of all of them - the difference between top shelf gear and everything else is so massive that obsoletes the lower level stuff immediately even with availability issues.

The practical upshot is that finding level 59-62 is pretty much always useless. But since the drops are set up in a way where you will always be getting many, many level 59-62 to get even one lvl63, you're buried in junk no matter what you do.

Tack on that you still need a good roll when the lvl63 finally drops....and well, yeah, it gets frustrating. The AH means that a good lvl63 for a different class can probably be converted into a good lvl63 for your class, but that doesn't address the core issue that so much of the endgame loot is junk from the get go.

While I'm no huge fan of D2, I certainly don't remember it being like this. You certainly got bad drops, but most of them at least had the potential to be useful. Here, the 59-62s just don't. That's pretty bad even before you take into account that those 'can't be useful' items make up most of what drops in inferno.

 

[DrunkenSano]

I've done HC into Nightmare with a couple of characters, lost a 45 DH a couple of weeks ago due to a really bad champion pack. Lasers, walls, and I think frozen or something like that. It sucked but more of a learning experience not to get too ahead of myself and stay with others.

HC is more challenge and you definitely play it a lot more slowly, because you want to make sure you have the HP to survive before moving on. There is no sense of boredom or the feeling that you need to rush forward like you do in Softcore.

 

[darkewaffle]

The difference between item level 60-63 on anything except weapons and offhands is really not that great. Whenever I search for items with 70 AR, 140 Vit and 140 Str (which is pretty much what I need for an upgrade, and well beyond what is needed to clear Inferno) it's a pretty even split between Sovereign (62) and Archon (63) and after clearing Inferno weeks ago and farming I still have only one or two pieces of 63 gear, as well as still using at least two 61s and one 60, probably more but I don't remember what my jewelry is exactly.

I actually just replaced 63 bracers and gloves with 62 bracers and gloves because the 62s had such better mods on them; in theory the 'best' possible items at each level will be better than the previous level, but there's such a wide variance possible that getting a good roll is much more important than getting a high item level.

 

[Aikouka]

I got my first legendary last night on my Barbarian! A mighty belt that isn't too shabby, but I would have been much more excited if it had lifestealing. I think it also lacks vitality, but it does have heal on spending rage.

Also finally beat Normal on him. The best part was when I nearly one shot a boss. Having about 1200 DPS on a level 32 is a bit imba.

if you know what you want and have a general idea of the worth of items, there is money to be made "day trading" the RMAH.

Do you send all the money to PayPal and simply inject your own funds in, or do you typically sell most things with the profits set to go to your Battle.Net Balance? (Let's call it BNB because I'm lazy )

 

[Batmeat]

I went to play Inferno last night. you know how many people it said were playing that act 1? ..3 yes 3 people.

WTF

oh yeah. when you group up its far harder then going solo.

I'm not saying Inferno is good, or designed right, I'm saying Blizz posts about it are saying that it wasn't meant to be solo'd. The idea behind it was that it could only be beaten co-op. I'm not arguing that it's insanely hard grouping up. I don't even play inferno anymore, let alone my DH. I can solo Hell easily with her, but inferno I don't even try. I'm leveling my barb and WD for inferno. I think Blizz needs to re-tool the whole game. There are loads of loot, but 99% of it sux. Nobody will use a white or gray item, there are thousands of magic and rares, and hundreds of legendaries of which most of the legendaries are trash. There was a guy last night trying to off-load a legendary rare bow with 256dmg and shit for mods that the level req was 55. It makes the bow useless. I had blue bows at that level that were better.

 

[bonkers325]

I got my first legendary last night on my Barbarian! A mighty belt that isn't too shabby, but I would have been much more excited if it had lifestealing. I think it also lacks vitality, but it does have heal on spending rage.

Also finally beat Normal on him. The best part was when I nearly one shot a boss. Having about 1200 DPS on a level 32 is a bit imba.



Do you send all the money to PayPal and simply inject your own funds in, or do you typically sell most things with the profits set to go to your Battle.Net Balance? (Let's call it BNB because I'm lazy )

after hearing all the RMAH-purchases-gone-bad stories involving chargebacks and $250 item purchases, i stay well away from paypal and stick with BNB. once i get bored of the game, i'll just cash out by purchasing a friend's item via RMAH.

 

[Magusigne]

a few hundred thousand, if you're lucky. lots of people are dumping their DH gear because they re-rolled classes.

i sold a similarly rolled bow for 75k... so yea

Bow sold for 4.5 Million last Night Bonkers;p

The 900dps 170 dex +94% crit damage bow.

 

[bonkers325]

Bow sold for 4.5 Million last Night Bonkers;p

The 900dps 170 dex +94% crit damage bow.

mine didnt have crit dmg, now that i recall. yea that 94% is almost a perfect roll, combined with 170 dex that will easily beat a 1200dps bow

 

[akahoovy]

Sigh, there was an item I wanted to bid on before noon. US auction servers aren't up yet. I figured everything would be back up at 7 PDT, according to the announcement.

 

[SS Trooper]

So I got burned out for the first time since launch. Didn't feel like playing inferno on my Barb, and didn't want to play any alts since all of them are in Hell and I find Hell to be the most boring part of the game. It's hard enough to be annoying, you do not gain many skills, and the first 2 acts are useless drop wise.

It's time like these that you realize how important custom chat channels are. Despite having plenty of friends on, I didnt feel like messaging each one until I could form a group of 4 that all wanted to do a specific level of content. Having a custom chat channel I could've just spammed I was bored and quickly jump in with a few friends or even just converse while playing.

Owell I'll just have to wait until Blizz deems them "important" or what ever they are waiting for. I'm sure I'll be back in the grind tonight, it is HC night after all.

 

[fustercluck]

After being stuck being unable to get anywhere in Inferno Act 2 for a couple of weeks, I was able to run through it with a pro buddy. So that made me happy. Now I'm completely stuck on Act 3 inferno, can't advance at all. WD has 39k health, 2200 armor, resists are 250 to 350 range. Don't got much to spend on gear. Is there anything specifically that can help a lot to get through act 3-4 inferno? More resistance? Kinda stuck though because I don't have much gold like I said. WD doesn't have many useful skills end-game wise. Pets are useless, snare doesn't hold up or damage any enemies. Plus they unintentionally focked up zombie bears with the 1.03 patch, which is about WD's only great skill.

Been bringing up a demon hunter in the downtime, was really fun breezing through normal and most of nightmare solo. I got to level 50 in 13 1/2 hours which I think is pretty amazing. My barb is lvl 33 at 11 hours. Buuuuut the end of nightmare is getting much harder to solo than I would like for having fairly good gear. Not top notch gear because I'm leveling so fast with the DH that it'd have been silly to replace her gear too often, only when there is a large disparity. Anyways, hoping the DH will be my ticket to beating inferno, but I very much doubt it because good shit on the AH is crazy expensive.

 

[bonkers325]

After being stuck being unable to get anywhere in Inferno Act 2 for a couple of weeks, I was able to run through it with a pro buddy. So that made me happy. Now I'm completely stuck on Act 3 inferno, can't advance at all. WD has 39k health, 2200 armor, resists are 250 to 350 range. Don't got much to spend on gear. Is there anything specifically that can help a lot to get through act 3-4 inferno? More resistance? Kinda stuck though because I don't have much gold like I said. WD doesn't have many useful skills end-game wise. Pets are useless, snare doesn't hold up or damage any enemies. Plus they unintentionally focked up zombie bears with the 1.03 patch, which is about WD's only great skill.

Been bringing up a demon hunter in the downtime, was really fun breezing through normal and most of nightmare solo. I got to level 50 in 13 1/2 hours which I think is pretty amazing. My barb is lvl 33 at 11 hours. Buuuuut the end of nightmare is getting much harder to solo than I would like for having fairly good gear. Not top notch gear because I'm leveling so fast with the DH that it'd have been silly to replace her gear too often, only when there is a large disparity. Anyways, hoping the DH will be my ticket to beating inferno, but I very much doubt it because good shit on the AH is crazy expensive.

that amount of defense and resist means you're pretty much going to get one-shot in act3. need to be double those amounts so that you can afford to take a hit from mobs, especially stuff like soul rippers and phasebeasts that are melee, but can teleport/leap at you.

 

[Imp]

Finally hit 60 with my DH and scored a cheap 200k magic 1100dps bow on gold AH. So far been farming Siegebreaker for gold and items. Wow, did they change the drop rates? I don't recall getting anywhere near as many rares with my barb with a full 5-stack of 'valour'. Virtually non-existent mf/gf gear on both characters too.

Will move to Inferno Act 1 farming once I manage to up my resists a bit more. Floating around 400 right now. Somehow my DH has more hp than my barb, but i probably sacrified more vitality for resists with barb.

And lulz on my second unique drop ever. Hand Crossbow Isoca---- ilvl 56 with no damage buff, so 160dps. W T F?

 

[Batmeat]

mine didnt have crit dmg, now that i recall. yea that 94% is almost a perfect roll, combined with 170 dex that will easily beat a 1200dps bow

I bought a similar bow someone was selling for 10k. except this one had intellect on it. I re-listed it for ~70k It sold at that price. it was just a blue bow too.

 

[Magusigne]

After being stuck being unable to get anywhere in Inferno Act 2 for a couple of weeks, I was able to run through it with a pro buddy. So that made me happy. Now I'm completely stuck on Act 3 inferno, can't advance at all. WD has 39k health, 2200 armor, resists are 250 to 350 range. Don't got much to spend on gear. Is there anything specifically that can help a lot to get through act 3-4 inferno? More resistance? Kinda stuck though because I don't have much gold like I said. WD doesn't have many useful skills end-game wise. Pets are useless, snare doesn't hold up or damage any enemies. Plus they unintentionally focked up zombie bears with the 1.03 patch, which is about WD's only great skill.

Been bringing up a demon hunter in the downtime, was really fun breezing through normal and most of nightmare solo. I got to level 50 in 13 1/2 hours which I think is pretty amazing. My barb is lvl 33 at 11 hours. Buuuuut the end of nightmare is getting much harder to solo than I would like for having fairly good gear. Not top notch gear because I'm leveling so fast with the DH that it'd have been silly to replace her gear too often, only when there is a large disparity. Anyways, hoping the DH will be my ticket to beating inferno, but I very much doubt it because good shit on the AH is crazy expensive.

I can probably progress through Inferno Act 3 just to complete it with my Monk. However...farming is another story. There are narrow walk ways, lots of runners..more efficient at least for me to farm Act 2.

 

[Batmeat]

Finally hit 60 with my DH and scored a cheap 200k magic 1100dps bow on gold AH. So far been farming Siegebreaker for gold and items. Wow, did they change the drop rates? I don't recall getting anywhere near as many rares with my barb with a full 5-stack of 'valour'. Virtually non-existent mf/gf gear on both characters too.

Is MF spread out among the group or is it individual for your drops? So if I have 5 valor stacks is my 75% or 100% (or whatever it works out to be) and i'm with a bunch of lvl 59's, is the MF only for my items or is it spread out ~25% for the entire group?......Basically, is it better to MF solo or in a group? That was much easier to say.

 

[darkewaffle]

MF is averaged between group members.

 

[EDUSAN]

Is MF spread out among the group or is it individual for your drops? So if I have 5 valor stacks is my 75% or 100% (or whatever it works out to be) and i'm with a bunch of lvl 59's, is the MF only for my items or is it spread out ~25% for the entire group?......Basically, is it better to MF solo or in a group? That was much easier to say.

i guess its easier if your partner/partners have all te same MF or are close

 

[nanobreath]

Is MF spread out among the group or is it individual for your drops? So if I have 5 valor stacks is my 75% or 100% (or whatever it works out to be) and i'm with a bunch of lvl 59's, is the MF only for my items or is it spread out ~25% for the entire group?......Basically, is it better to MF solo or in a group? That was much easier to say.

MF is averaged across the whole party. However, with 5 stacks of NV buff you are guaranteed on each boss kill and each elite pack kill to get a rare. So you will still see a lot more rares than they will, but not as many as if you were solo.

If you are only doing runs for MF though, do it solo or with a group of similarly MF geared people.

 

[diesbudt]

I got my first legendary last night on my Barbarian! A mighty belt that isn't too shabby, but I would have been much more excited if it had lifestealing. I think it also lacks vitality, but it does have heal on spending rage.

Also finally beat Normal on him. The best part was when I nearly one shot a boss. Having about 1200 DPS on a level 32 is a bit imba.



Do you send all the money to PayPal and simply inject your own funds in, or do you typically sell most things with the profits set to go to your Battle.Net Balance? (Let's call it BNB because I'm lazy )

I still haven't found a legendary or green item

 

[Magusigne]

I feel like the auction house needs one more drop down selector for variables..

 

[diesbudt]

After being stuck being unable to get anywhere in Inferno Act 2 for a couple of weeks, I was able to run through it with a pro buddy. So that made me happy. Now I'm completely stuck on Act 3 inferno, can't advance at all. WD has 39k health, 2200 armor, resists are 250 to 350 range. Don't got much to spend on gear. Is there anything specifically that can help a lot to get through act 3-4 inferno? More resistance? Kinda stuck though because I don't have much gold like I said. WD doesn't have many useful skills end-game wise. Pets are useless, snare doesn't hold up or damage any enemies. Plus they unintentionally focked up zombie bears with the 1.03 patch, which is about WD's only great skill.

Been bringing up a demon hunter in the downtime, was really fun breezing through normal and most of nightmare solo. I got to level 50 in 13 1/2 hours which I think is pretty amazing. My barb is lvl 33 at 11 hours. Buuuuut the end of nightmare is getting much harder to solo than I would like for having fairly good gear. Not top notch gear because I'm leveling so fast with the DH that it'd have been silly to replace her gear too often, only when there is a large disparity. Anyways, hoping the DH will be my ticket to beating inferno, but I very much doubt it because good shit on the AH is crazy expensive.

The bolded part is your issue.

It is recommended to aim for 400-500 resists for act 2 and 700-800 for act 3. And your armor is low too. You should be back in act 1 farming gold/gear so you can solo act 2, otherwise you will always require someone OP to run you through acts, because act 3 is worse than 2 and you said you couldn't do act 2.

 

[Batmeat]

MF is averaged across the whole party. However, with 5 stacks of NV buff you are guaranteed on each boss kill and each elite pack kill to get a rare. So you will still see a lot more rares than they will, but not as many as if you were solo.

If you are only doing runs for MF though, do it solo or with a group of similarly MF geared people.

Good to know. Guess I'll run siegebreaker and azmodan on Hell solo now.

 

[Imported]

I feel like the auction house needs one more drop down selector for variables..

It'd be useful.. thats for sure. And sort by time-ending would be awesome.

 

[Aikouka]

I feel like the auction house needs one more drop down selector for variables..

The auction house is certainly lacking, and I've had the exact same thought as you quite a few times. My issue is that you almost always want your main stat + vitality. There are two out of the three searches. At low levels, I want sockets on my items, and that makes three. But what about other good search terms like resistances, life on hit, attack speed, lifestealing, crit, crit damage. I obviously don't want to search for all of them (I think that would be a Legendary item! ), but at least adding one of those in there would be nice.

I still haven't found a legendary or green item

I haven't found a set item either.