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I can't imagine this repair cost thing staying as-is if its as bad as people say..

25k for partially damaged gear, that's what 15-30min farming time depending on gear/capability just to break even ? (ok you can do it in less time, you're epeen is huge WE GET IT 😛 )

I have to guess the costs will get scaled back, or they will at least remove durability loss from regular fighting (while leaving the 10% upon death, or even reducing to 5% etc)
 
lupi said:
According to others that means you aren't playing well enough.
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Clearly, I guess when they reduce the means to get gold in-game (without resorting to the AH) you're playing the game wrong.

The increase to repair items is absurd, with the reduction to make back money without having to resort to selling on the AH is mind boggling.

I guess dying 4 times makes sense for a 24K Repair bill. Roger roger.
 
PhatoseAlpha said:
Well, if you actually want to apply that kind of sense to a gameplay mechanic:

You're the local equipment vendor. There are hundreds of thousands of functionally immortal adventurers, killing an infinite horde of demons, operating in your area. They're constantly asking you to fix their equipment and buy their stuff.

They never, ever buy any of the equipment you're selling.

The stuff they want you to buy is always, 100% of the time useless junk that none of them would ever use in a million years - if someone would use it, they'd take it to the Auction House instead.

So now you've got friggin' mountains of useless garbage, and thousands of adventures demanding you fix their broken stuff.

You'd probably charge an arm and a leg for your repairs while paying as little as possible for their garbage too. In fact, you'd probably tell them to get stuffed and refuse to buy any more worthless baubles, and then charge them an arm and a leg for repairs.
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Love it! Yes, repairing something (such as your car) sometimes costs more than salvaging it (to say a junkyard).

I do agree, with the costs of repair, though. Indestructables are about to see a huge price increase. What if I happen to go completely broke, and all my gear is broken. I will have to go back to Normal mode and find some crap gear and start some trivial questing.
 
railven said:
Clearly, I guess when they reduce the means to get gold in-game (without resorting to the AH) you're playing the game wrong.

The increase to repair items is absurd, with the reduction to make back money without having to resort to selling on the AH is mind boggling.

I guess dying 4 times makes sense for a 24K Repair bill. Roger roger.
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Are you gold farming in Inferno?
 
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Oh the lulz, official forums in a pitchfork and torch mood. Best thing is almost every negative discussion is eventually blamed on blizz wanting rmah used to milk %transaction funds as income stream.
 
lupi said:
Best thing is almost every negative discussion is eventually blamed on blizz wanting rmah used to milk %transaction funds as income stream.
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I own a business and, if I owned Blizz, it would be my primary goal to shuttle people to the RMAH as soon and as often as possible through the use of "clever" game design.

If you don't think they want to do just that than you are missing the entire point of capitalism.
 
Nashemon said:
Love it! Yes, repairing something (such as your car) sometimes costs more than salvaging it (to say a junkyard).

I do agree, with the costs of repair, though. Indestructables are about to see a huge price increase. What if I happen to go completely broke, and all my gear is broken. I will have to go back to Normal mode and find some crap gear and start some trivial questing.
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This happened to me in D2. Repair costs got so extreme that I literally had zero gold and couldn't repair with one of my characters. The reason why I stuck with ranged/caster/pet classes.
 
railven said:
No, but why do you ask?
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Cause in my experience, 3-4 deaths on a Hell run is an awful lot, and for gold you're better off running Hell even before the repair costs. The extra gold Inferno monsters dropped never could make up for the much much slower kill rate.
 
So, has anyone had any luck killing belial? I get him 1/2 through stage 3 with ease then after his 3rd round of bombs they're everywhere... I tried to fraps it but I don't have the coordination to attempt to stay alive and hit f9 because I'm not going to pay to show you just how stupid this is. I can't go anywhere, he drops 3 bombs everywhere retardedly fast and since I haven't done the first quest in act 3 I can't get there to verify that it's any easier than before. The repair costs weren't that bad for me, like 30k. Too bad I'm stuck in act 2 now...
 
If the repair costs are as bad people are saying then a player like me who is only on act 3 in hell is going to tough. I only have like 800,000 gold. If 25k is the repair cost then I'll be broke by the end of the weekend. The main problem I have is those elits chain dogs that you can't out run. I'm a wizard and use the blizzard to slow down the mobs but not the dogs they are just to fast to do anything to them.
 
PhatoseAlpha said:
Cause in my experience, 3-4 deaths on a Hell run is an awful lot, and for gold you're better off running Hell even before the repair costs. The extra gold Inferno monsters dropped never could make up for the much much slower kill rate.
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Farming has never been my interest in this game, probably why my pockets aren't as lined as people who a 24K Repair build wouldn't bother.

They nerfed the amount of money I get and increased the repair bills by like 800%. I guess Spyder was right - they are truly funneling people into the AHs.

Time for some Alts 😀
 
Pantlegz said:
So, has anyone had any luck killing belial? I get him 1/2 through stage 3 with ease then after his 3rd round of bombs they're everywhere... I tried to fraps it but I don't have the coordination to attempt to stay alive and hit f9 because I'm not going to pay to show you just how stupid this is. I can't go anywhere, he drops 3 bombs everywhere retardedly fast and since I haven't done the first quest in act 3 I can't get there to verify that it's any easier than before. The repair costs weren't that bad for me, like 30k. Too bad I'm stuck in act 2 now...
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That part isn't too hard. The spots on the ground that light up quickest are the ones that blow up first. Run to clear spots until there is nowhere left to run and then retreat to a spot that has already blown up. I don't remember it being too fast or anything
 
railven said:
Farming has never been my interest in this game, probably why my pockets aren't as lined as people who a 24K Repair build wouldn't bother.

They nerfed the amount of money I get and increased the repair bills by like 800%. I guess Spyder was right - they are truly funneling people into the AHs.

Time for some Alts 😀
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The answer to all your problems is hardcore
 
Well, just finished my first new run post 1.03.

Instead of running just the final section of Act 3, then the two bosses, I ran everything from the breach to the boss.

Took about 3 times as long as the old run.

But...instead of the 5-6 rares I would get in 15 minutes, I got 2 full inventories full of nothing but rares.

The Guaranteed rare on elites with 5NV is a big deal - there are far, far more elites then there are bosses. And I've been getting a second rare from about 50% of all elites.

Total repairs didn't cost me more then 10k over the entire course of the run.

Gold is actually *much* better. In the new extended runs, you're killing a lot more common mobs while at a full 5NV, and with the gold find NV provides that ends up meaning you'll be running at max GF much more of the time.

I'm liking this a lot so far.
 
PhatoseAlpha said:
Well, just finished my first new run post 1.03.

Instead of running just the final section of Act 3, then the two bosses, I ran everything from the breach to the boss.

Took about 3 times as long as the old run.

But...instead of the 5-6 rares I would get in 15 minutes, I got 2 full inventories full of nothing but rares.

The Guaranteed rare on elites with 5NV is a big deal - there are far, far more elites then there are bosses. And I've been getting a second rare from about 50% of all elites.

Total repairs didn't cost me more then 10k over the entire course of the run.

Gold is actually *much* better. In the new extended runs, you're killing a lot more common mobs while at a full 5NV, and with the gold find NV provides that ends up meaning you'll be running at max GF much more of the time.

I'm liking this a lot so far.
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Yeah they screwed something up. I get massive rares now just doing 1 butcher run. They buffed it too much lol. Im getting masses of rares too...

I have gotten, just playing today, 2 legendaries already. Previously, only gotten 4 total legendaries since day one.


Does anyone experienced wanna do some coop goblin runs or butcher or something? Lmk.
 
Put in a few hours and here's my thoughts.

Act 1 farming is really nice. Go to the festering woods, 2 elites, an event and 2 really short dungeons. 5 stacks in a couple minutes. Bosses are now doorways to more elites considering the elites drop around the same amount of gear.

Fuck repair increases. You can die maybe 2 times to an elite during the run or your will lose gold vs what you pick up AND what you vendor.

Act 3 was interesting, mobs hit for a lot less, so much I could add a dps skill back in. I could face tank mobs I wasn't able to before.

Attack speed nerf really hurts but I think it's a step in the right direction.

Don't bother with smashing everything, but do still open loose stones/dead bodies/weapon racks.
 
So I tried out the patch. Blizzard increasing the repair costs 5x what they were is just ludicrous.

Outside of that the nerf to IAS and to the Demon Hunter in general hurt. Not a total game killer, I can still roll Act 1 Inferno with ease and am getting more rares than I was. The mobs are a little easier but the increase to repair costs is just killing me. Pretty much the coffin nail to Diablo 3 for the time being for me
 
Seriously blizzard and its nerf hammer is the most annoying thing in all games.

Took a break and wanted to come enjoy after 1.03 but it's even worse than before!
 
watek said:
Seriously blizzard and its nerf hammer is the most annoying thing in all games.

Took a break and wanted to come enjoy after 1.03 but it's even worse than before!
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Agreed. I was starting to get a little bored with the game anyways. I am almost through Act 3 Inferno and would like to finish it up, but if that means farming Act 1 for another week just to get enough gold to cover repair costs then the fun is over. Besides, many of my friends have not logged in for days or even weeks so I can tell that it may be starting to ice over.

I would like to avoid wearing my tin foil hat but I think the higher repair costs goes hand in hand with Blizzard trying to get more money out of the RMAH. I was never going to buy anything out of it anyways.
 
Well, keep something in mind. I do agree the repair costs kind of suck, my total cost to repair all gear when fulled destroyed is almost 40,000 gold. Thats alot. I used to make profit after repairs just finding gold from kills/chests etc, but now it looks like all gold found while questing/doing runs is going to be for repairs. So much for that profit.

To keep it in perspective though. Diablo2 actually took a percentage of your gold when you died, not counting repair costs, so in that regard its kind of the same thing. However, since D3 has AH, gold is much more valuable than it was in D2, so theres that....


The name of the game now will be, if you encounter mobs you cant kill, better leave the game and restart than spending thousands in repairs dying a million times.
 
just did a butcher run on my wiz, IAS nerf was felt immediately, holy crap its like slow motion and i only had 2 IAS items. damage dropped by about 8k, butcher run didnt seem to take any longer then normal, not shit for drops but that is normal

3 deaths
8k repair bill
 
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