Official AT Guild Wars 2 Guild Thread

[aigomorla]

nah, not true at all.

zin.. how would a lvling snail like you know if u never stepped into cursed shore?

:biggrin:

ahahahaha... ur going after map completion on the lower maps.
Come to cursed shore where all the other high lvl warriors are.

See if u can effectively tag anything more then 1-2 groups out of 10.

lately its gotten worse, with too many people farming cursed shore.
Even my ghost ship is farmed to oblivion now.. :\

I know, I just like seeing and therefore saying how fast the dot ticks.

which is why i love bleed dmg..

 

[zinfamous]

zin.. how would a lvling snail like you know if u never stepped into cursed shore?

:biggrin:

ahahahaha... ur going after map completion on the lower maps.
Come to cursed shore where all the other high lvl warriors are.

See if u can effectively tag anything more then 1-2 groups out of 10.



which is why i love bleed dmg..

I'm 78, bro!

I've been playing completion, story, various things here and there. I chose the crafting classes that would interest me--not the ones that would instant level me at little-to-no work (and surprisingly little cash). :\

Then there's that whole "work" thing I have to deal with during the day

hey, I got almost 7 levels last night!

I've played in that 70-75 zone a bit and was running with some random warrior/guardian groups doing various risen events. I watch what they do to the mobs, and it isn't very impressive. I lay down one chaos storm on the bunch and spawn a warden in the middle of that mob, and the criticals suddenly start flying. :\ I don't know, maybe they suck more or somehow manage to be under-geared compared to myself (lol, right?), but I feel like my Mes is finally carrying it's own when it comes to all-around contribution. when we were clearing out the area outside CoF last night, I had no trouble getting in enough damage to get xp and loot. Mesmer just takes a long time to mature, and patience with speccing, I think.

That being said, I'm still more interested in the support role, cc, and 1v1 aspect of the class.

 

[aigomorla]

well the warrior is majorly gear dependant.

U seen what happens to warriors in full berserkers gear.
They get owned... they need the defense and toughness to survive though a HB storm while tanking.

And yes Cursed shore is a whole other level then frostforge, or that are right above cursed shore.

lvl82 event mob spawns hit harder, have more life, however its still fodder to 2-3 warriors who know the power of throwing there greatsword like a boomerang and then follow it with a whirl.

Infact 2 coordinated warriors basically eat the mobs at spawn b4 they have time to react. And its quite common to see warriors just sit at spawn during events to beat out precasting elementals.

EVen guardians with fire or whril have difficulties keeping up with tagging mobs against warriors.

 

[JamesV]

I did a bunch of events in Cursed Shore earlier today, and I was lucky to get 1 drop out of each 'wave' of undead. A week ago I'd be looting 1/3rd of the bodies easily.

Even casting Meteor Shower, the majority of mobs are dead before any of the meteors hit them... but the regular lightning attack which bounces to 3 mobs seems to work better.

 

[krnmastersgt]

I did a bunch of events in Cursed Shore earlier today, and I was lucky to get 1 drop out of each 'wave' of undead. A week ago I'd be looting 1/3rd of the bodies easily.

Even casting Meteor Shower, the majority of mobs are dead before any of the meteors hit them... but the regular lightning attack which bounces to 3 mobs seems to work better.

I always hated the Meteor Shower on my Ele, it looks awesome and can potentially do a tremendous amount of damage to really large targets. But more often than not you sit there to channel a spell that will hit once, maybe twice, and for less damage than most of your other abilities

 

[krnmastersgt]

nah, not true at all.

Sure, it takes some time and switching--but Chaos Storm + iWarlock + switch to sword/focus + Blurred Frenzy + iWarden = rather massive damage gives you multiple skills that pump out rather substantial damage.

But yeah--lots of CD to recycle it, and you still spend time kiting. Also, Mesmers have rather "elite" downed skills , so there's a rather substantial array of damage in various states....just have to be smart about playing. Yeah, we can't just run in and go smashy smashy aggro everything until we have to wait for someone else to come res us for our stupidity, but...you know. That's what warriors excel at.

the sword skills provide you a decent amount of invulnerability, and good escape with good CD--you need it of course. Mesmers certainly can't stick around within a mob, but the burst damage is pretty good if specced for it. I am having problems with iWarlock, though, where after activating, it only seems to cast half the time--this is very annoying. the skill activates and flashes, then simply doesn't cast. I have nothing else activating and the target is still very much alive, so I have no idea what is going on with that. Shame, those little bastards are doing roughly 4k damage each for me on critical. I'm not even specced anywhere close to where Mr Moneybags Poly is specced, either.

Didn't even notice this comment. I'm not even specced for damage, I'm primarily specced for high MF as opposed to power/crit damage. If I were specced purely for damage I'd probably do 40%+ more, but I like my 134% MF.

 

[diesbudt]

well the warrior is majorly gear dependant.

U seen what happens to warriors in full berserkers gear.
They get owned... they need the defense and toughness to survive though a HB storm while tanking.

And yes Cursed shore is a whole other level then frostforge, or that are right above cursed shore.

lvl82 event mob spawns hit harder, have more life, however its still fodder to 2-3 warriors who know the power of throwing there greatsword like a boomerang and then follow it with a whirl.

Infact 2 coordinated warriors basically eat the mobs at spawn b4 they have time to react. And its quite common to see warriors just sit at spawn during events to beat out precasting elementals.

EVen guardians with fire or whril have difficulties keeping up with tagging mobs against warriors.

Yet come WvWvW those silly warriors can't harm me enough to matter.

 

[diesbudt]

I always hated the Meteor Shower on my Ele, it looks awesome and can potentially do a tremendous amount of damage to really large targets. But more often than not you sit there to channel a spell that will hit once, maybe twice, and for less damage than most of your other abilities

Yes, but once the channel is 80% done you can move and do other spells as the meteor shower stays casting for another 5+ seconds. It does suck a stand still channel, but since it goes on after the channel it isnt so bad.

 

[Rhezuss]

Yeah, leveling goes fast! I started the week at level 42, played thursday and yesterday evening only and i'm now at level 55 2/3...

Mostly questing and crafting, 5-6 events, personal story quests and 1 Manor run.

F'ing loving this game!

 

[diesbudt]

Yeah, leveling goes fast! I started the week at level 42, played thursday and yesterday evening only and i'm now at level 55 2/3...

Mostly questing and crafting, 5-6 events, personal story quests and 1 Manor run.

F'ing loving this game!

I did WvWvW for the monthly pvp kill achievements.

Not only did I almost finish it, but the events I completed there (and skill points) gave over 4-6k xp a piece, on top of a few monthly achieve xp bonuses ALONG with killing enough monsters/people at 20% magic find, I found better gear for almost every slot on my character. In 1 hours.

Was so much fun to killing things along with the asura "Finish him" animation.

/Glowy fist 360 spiral jump slam attack!

 

[Rhezuss]

I did WvWvW for the monthly pvp kill achievements.

Not only did I almost finish it, but the events I completed there (and skill points) gave over 4-6k xp a piece, on top of a few monthly achieve xp bonuses ALONG with killing enough monsters/people at 20% magic find, I found better gear for almost every slot on my character. In 1 hours.

Was so much fun to killing things along with the asura "Finish him" animation.

/Glowy fist 360 spiral jump slam attack!

Think I should try somw WvWvW PvP...maybe tonight we'll see. Looks like a good place to level, get gear and have fun!

 

[diesbudt]

Think I should try somw WvWvW PvP...maybe tonight we'll see. Looks like a good place to level, get gear and have fun!

It helped we were kicking the other servers ass, and won most skirmishes that appeared. funny people running alone into a mob of 4-5... what did they expect? to live?

 

[aigomorla]

Yet come WvWvW those silly warriors can't harm me enough to matter.

lolol...

i did WvW..

respec'd into full rifle build.
And i LOL'd when i ended up killing 3 from pierce with one rapid fire.
Grouping up is not a good idea when u have a warrior spraying his target with a rifle and pierce.

If u see a warrior wield a greatsword in wvw... he's a pver whose trying to get his monthy.

If you see a warrior only use a rifle, he will PWN u faster then you can say WTF just happened.

RaipdFire has a insane cooldown when spec'd. And at 54% crit rate, its gonna crit half the shots. That translates to about 7300 dmg per rapid fire, meaning if ur standing inside a meteor storm or a chaos storm, your almost dead...

Meaning i can probably pop a rapid fire on you every 4 sec, while disabling your movement speed if u try to run, to inflict vulnerability + bleeding each shot u take.

Poly and other guys who seen high warriors said it best.
The warrior is HAX. He's expensive as faq to setup, but once setup, you will never get a rejection from a dungeon party, and you will probably end up doing the most dps, unless ur tanking for a full crystal glass elementalist.

Anyhow i need Gold!!!
ahhh... 20 gold to buy the recipies of the 2 books for my twilight.
Then i need 1000 orichalcum because i need 500 ingots for the two gifts.
Then i need 200 skill points... and i need sword which costs more then 100g on the trade post.

Yeah... i have a long way to go...

 

[diesbudt]

lolol...

i did WvW..

respec'd into full rifle build.
And i LOL'd when i ended up killing 3 from pierce with one rapid fire.
Grouping up is not a good idea when u have a warrior spraying his target with a rifle and pierce.

If u see a warrior wield a greatsword in wvw... he's a pver whose trying to get his monthy.

If you see a warrior only use a rifle, he will PWN u faster then you can say WTF just happened.

RaipdFire has a insane cooldown when spec'd. And at 54% crit rate, its gonna crit half the shots. That translates to about 7300 dmg per rapid fire, meaning if ur standing inside a meteor storm or a chaos storm, your almost dead...

Meaning i can probably pop a rapid fire on you every 4 sec, while disabling your movement speed if u try to run, to inflict vulnerability + bleeding each shot u take.

Poly and other guys who seen high warriors said it best.
The warrior is HAX. He's expensive as faq to setup, but once setup, you will never get a rejection from a dungeon party, and you will probably end up doing the most dps, unless ur tanking for a full crystal glass elementalist.

Anyhow i need Gold!!!
ahhh... 20 gold to buy the recipies of the 2 books for my twilight.
Then i need 1000 orichalcum because i need 500 ingots for the two gifts.
Then i need 200 skill points... and i need sword which costs more then 100g on the trade post.

Yeah... i have a long way to go...

So use my reflect projectiles and go immune from damage skills to defend them? With constant blinds of course.

Oh yea... I still don't even know what I need as I have done 0 research out of game. I am just flying by the seat of my pants. And level 53. And only ever did AC story mode dungeon wise so far.

 

[boozie]

Are there any posted GPU performance charts for GW2? Tomshardware has one from late last month, but they left out the 660 Ti and 7850.

 

[zinfamous]

So use my reflect projectiles and go immune from damage skills to defend them? With constant blinds of course.

Oh yea... I still don't even know what I need as I have done 0 research out of game. I am just flying by the seat of my pants. And level 53. And only ever did AC story mode dungeon wise so far.

yeah...my iWarden will reflect all that damage back to the warrior, + the 2 seconds of invulnerability from blurred frenzy.

not to mention---the epicness that is feedback providing instant suicide on such a rifle warrior--caveat being that this warrior would have to be preposterously stupid to not move outside of the giant purple bubble of self-inflected death before trying to pop off rifle skills...but, you know....warriors.


everything Kuz is looking for right now is to get one legendary sword skin. ...it sparkles; he likes that sort of thing. I got to 80 sometime late last night and am not exactly sure how to start progressing towards exotics and then legendaries. I haven't done nearly as much research as others yet. I usually go to guru, but has anyone found a better resource for such info?

I know you can get exotic through karma (not sure where all of these vendors are--just the cultural stuff?), mystic forge, crafting, dungeon rewards, etc--but I think I first need to learn where to find these vendors to get a direction of where I need to go next. I'm just glad I finally broke past that ~144 tailoring wall 2 nights ago, and am now at ~333. I like that I can finally craft stuff that is more or less on par with what is dropping for me (but at level 80 now...not quite).

 

[aigomorla]

So use my reflect projectiles and go immune from damage skills to defend them? With constant blinds of course.

Oh yea... I still don't even know what I need as I have done 0 research out of game. I am just flying by the seat of my pants. And level 53. And only ever did AC story mode dungeon wise so far.

the warrior would need to be an idiot to sit there and shoot u with your bubble up.

Its the same as a GS wield warrior in PVP. Only an Idiot thinks people are idiots to sit there while u HB them.

If your going to take the two top players from each class, the only class which remotely has a chance against the warrior is the guardian.

Otherwise a pro warrior will always end up killing pro other classes with the right spec to go against that class.

And ive still seen a lot of mesmers get eatten by warriors who wield axes and rifle.

IF you try to be smart and pop that bubble.. u got a 8-9k eviscorate waiting for you which u wont be able to block.
Even if u block it... the axe build allows a whirl which u can move around with in any direction, as well as inflict bleed, and cripple.

Again assumption on a 1v1 battle.
In a group battle, there is no uber class. ITs whatever group is more coordinated regardless of who they have.


Im being honest here.
Try the warrior in PVP and PVE.
Everyone who has tried the warrior only has one comment...

"FAQEN WARRIORS NEED TO BE NERF'd UP THE BUTT"

LOL i hear poly saying it almost every day..
The warrior has a more then 1 charge depending on the build.

And lets not even start with the banners... oh man... Banners when used right are IMBA, and the sad thing is, i dont think the DEV's realized this, because 90% of the warriors being used are all signet warriors.

 

[pontifex]

my account has been restored and i can now log in.

lets see what damage has been done...

my Guardian (Havelock) is in Lion's Arch (no idea where that is). I had like 50 emails from people telling me to stop spamming them, so I assume they used my account to spam gold sales... Does this mean that I should delete this character and make a new one with a different name since a bunch of people are pissed off at me?

I'm only level 14 but that is my highest level character and it took me awhile to reach that.

looks like all my gear on my character and in my bank are still there.

All my other characters appear to be untouched.

 

[krnmastersgt]

I don't say Warriors need to be nerfed, I said GS needs to be nerfed since it outclasses all of the other melee weps on Warrior. Rifle/Longbow? Okay if you like kiting with the warrior (which is stupid easy). Double axes? What are you, stupid? GS does easily twice the damage of a dual-axe user in half the time with more mobility. There are some easy ways to make GS work in PvP as well but most Warriors seem to be ignoring the fact so I won't mention it for fear that Warriors may start using their brains as opposed to their big shiny swords

Also Rifle Warrior isn't as awesome as I thought it'd be after all my testing in sPvP. I found a new build that I absolutely love, Hammer on main and Sword + Shield on alt. Controller builds are so much more fun on Warrior than raw DPS builds for PvP, though I still don't see much use for them in PvE aside from dungeon running :/

Also what I said specifically about Warriors is that they're very simple, but still very effective. However for PvE they are extremely 1 dimensional (run up and spam HB until they die), my PvP controller build is epic fun though so oh well.

 

[aigomorla]

sword and shield doesnt work very well in PVP.

The sword only has 1 dash, the primary attack is very lacking, and 1 cripple.
Your better off with a mace and shield for PVP, as you got better options via that route.

Hammer works only when u have full adreniline, so you can pop your f1 and stun everyone in a group.

But unless u have a zerg following up with you, its suicide.

When i was trying to do my monthly, i went mostly rifle with pierce.
Groups zerg... its common nature to think you should huddle up.
Pierce goes though EVERYONE of them.

Sure the initial impact may not seem much, however as i said i ended up killing 3 people with a rifle and pierce after a elementalist dropped a firestorm.

The Bow sucks hardcore..
The AoE damage the Bow does, falls short in comparision to a elementalist and even a mesmer, Even the gaurdian's signets will probably do more overall AoE damage then the warrior with a Bow. The bow only has 1 good feature on a warrior, you get extra distance to shoot from, but vs a rifle, it loses in dps, and control.

I seriously laugh at all the warriors with a bow, as they dont have any clue on what they are doing, and probably would of been better off as guardians with signets.

That being said.. i dont pvp unless its for my monthly.
Its really far too expensive for me to PVP.

Each armor im wearing is minimum 2silver to repair, and the loot drop in WvW is CRAP compare to an event.
And WvW with a rifle will not help me in getting my legendary, a greatsword in cursed island hitting 21k on bosses with HB, and doing 2.5-3k on normal attack crit, will net me around 1gold in a little under 1 hour.

 

[krnmastersgt]

You didn't set up your warrior correctly if you think Sword and Hammer are lacking for fights The hammer is a bit annoying without some adrenaline but it depends more on what you're fighting, Mesmers are a bitch due to all the interrupts. As for Sword and Shield it has no weaknesses, it just can't cc as well as hammer can in large groups but you can stick to 1 purpose almost indefinitely and getting you off a point is quite difficult.

 

[aigomorla]

You didn't set up your warrior correctly if you think Sword and Hammer are lacking for fights The hammer is a bit annoying without some adrenaline but it depends more on what you're fighting, Mesmers are a bitch due to all the interrupts. As for Sword and Shield it has no weaknesses, it just can't cc as well as hammer can in large groups but you can stick to 1 purpose almost indefinitely and getting you off a point is quite difficult.

mmm no i didnt full spec into sword and shield, your right.
But it was mostly because sword and shield i used to tag mobs when im with you guys who dont have the DPS. IT lets me reduce the DPS so hak or someone can put enough damage for credit.

Otherwise you know how long things last with HB being spam'd at them if there not silver or gold class mobs.

I just dont see the sword as viable.. it does OK damage, it inflicts bleed, its attack speed is OK, but thats about it.

The mace on the other hand hits harder, has a counter, and also a control:

Skull Crack Burst- Stun your foe with a skull crack. Effect increases with adrenaline level.
Mace Smash- Smash your foe.
Mace Bash- Bash your foe.
Pulverize- Thrash your foe, leaving them weakened.
Counter Blow- Block the next attack. Counter with an attack if you are in melee range. Gain adrenaline if not attacked.
Adrenaline Rush- Stop blocking and gain adrenaline.
Pommel Bash- Daze your foe with a brutal pommel bash.

MACE is pretty hardcore if ur into control and PVP.

 

[krnmastersgt]

For 1v1 dueling the Mace would be better, but when I say control I mean AoE disruption and CC. With sword you get the cripple ability from whatever the third skill is called, however this is a wide arcing slash so you can tag multiple opponents; combo that with the trait that immobilizes when you cripple and you just immobilized like 3 people, then you active the Burst skill for 1h sword and immobilize them again. After that's over I immediately swap to hammer and tag them with the 3rd ability from that bar too which is a wave that cripples all enemies, which also immobilizes; after that if they're clumped together I use the fifth skill to knock them all down or the 4th ability to scatter them if we want to focus on 1 individually. Hence the main reason I hate mesmers, the constant skill disruptions really annoy me when I'm trying to use my controller build

Also just did some sPvP with Tig and while the build itself still works for massive disruption, it deals very little damage since it's effectively just a tank. Annnnd people in sPvP are stupid as hell, so I'll probably be switching back to a damage output build since it doesn't matter if I hold them down for 15 seconds if my teammates chase 1 Thief in circles instead of killing the 3 people I'm ccing down constantly.

 

[imaheadcase]

I hope they focus on WvW play soon with patches. Its terribly has no sense of purpose atm. I hate how they have the map at a weird angle to. Hard to say "they are on so-in-so wall tower" because the keeps are angled on the map. I think because its based on a simple square area, but they made the playable area round. So you just run in a loop around everything.

Don't get me started on terrible keep designs. Not only can summoned pets chase you inside the keep, AoE can be targeted at doors and hit people up top on wall. DoTs can do the same. The wall up top is just saying "here shoot me on this wall that provides no defense". The oil above keep does less damage than my AE spells.


I think the whole "everyone is a healer" thing they did is a bummer.

 

[zinfamous]

my account has been restored and i can now log in.

lets see what damage has been done...

my Guardian (Havelock) is in Lion's Arch (no idea where that is). I had like 50 emails from people telling me to stop spamming them, so I assume they used my account to spam gold sales... Does this mean that I should delete this character and make a new one with a different name since a bunch of people are pissed off at me?

I'm only level 14 but that is my highest level character and it took me awhile to reach that.

looks like all my gear on my character and in my bank are still there.

All my other characters appear to be untouched.

oh wow, that is bizarre. still sorry to hear that. Kind of surprised, and a bit saddened, to see that people would actually respond to those. I would just let it fo for a few days and see if the attention/animosity dies down regarding your Guardian.

In addition, I wouldn't worry too much about leveling. After having gotten used to the game with one character, it took me about 3 hours to gain those first 9 or 10 levels with a second character. A lot of that time on the first toon is spent wandering around aimlessly for so long