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coldmeat

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Welcome to being a second class gamer. PC gamers have dealt with this for the last 5 years. PC gamers have been getting console ports and have had very little official PC footage of those games. Now you are dealing with a PC game that is getting console ports that is only showing limited footage of console gameplay.

As this console generation ages the focus is going to be shifting back to PC games as developers begin preparing for the next group of hardware to be released. I for one hope the next gen of consoles has more keyboard and mouse support. I would gladly buy the consoles if they had that one feature.

I don't. I like to play games on my 360 because I can sit back on my couch and relax and play games with a controller comfortably. The last thing I want is to have to play against a bunch of people with a KB+M, constantly getting raped.

Why not just play on the pc if a KB+M is what you want?
 

coldmeat

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I find BC2 hardcore to be less deadly than softcore. Mostly because there's no handicap cam or 3D spotting.

I find I die a lot more in hardcore, because if I pop my head out of cover for more than just a second, I get sniped. It's really annoying. Sometimes I will see my teammates standing out in the open for a long time just firing towards the enemy, so I figure it's safe. As soon as I stand up, I get instantly sniped.

We usually win because there are so many snipers on the other team doing nothing useful, but it doesn't make it any less annoying.
 

maniacalpha1-1

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I find I die a lot more in hardcore, because if I pop my head out of cover for more than just a second, I get sniped. It's really annoying. Sometimes I will see my teammates standing out in the open for a long time just firing towards the enemy, so I figure it's safe. As soon as I stand up, I get instantly sniped.

We usually win because there are so many snipers on the other team doing nothing useful, but it doesn't make it any less annoying.

Actually, I was on a hardcore server this morning and I found that snipers tend to stay WAY back on hardcore(this was Heavy Metal, so there was enough room for them to be able to stay way back) and if you are moving, the distance helps keep you alive.

However, the instant I got into the VADS to knock down the chopper reliants, boom headshot. It will be interesting to see whether AA will be shielded in BF3 or not. We suspect that the top MG of tanks and APCs will be a CROWS, and possibly even of humvees, but I can't even guess at AA.
 

coldmeat

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Actually, I was on a hardcore server this morning and I found that snipers tend to stay WAY back on hardcore(this was Heavy Metal, so there was enough room for them to be able to stay way back) and if you are moving, the distance helps keep you alive.

Ya I imagine it's easier to avoid snipers on heavy metal, but I don't play that map. I find it too open. If you're not in a vehicle, you're basically screwed because in the time it takes to get to a flag by foot, it could change teams twice. And useless teammates like to take vehicles alone and then just ditch them when they get where they are going.

I pretty much only play rush anyway.

But when I'm playing, I mostly defend choke points, or stay around the MCOMs, so I'm usually in a spot where 10 snipers have all got their sights aimed. It's not hard to avoid 1 or 2 snipers, but when theres up to 10 on one team, there's no where that's really safe.
 

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Planet Battlefield - Battlefield 3 PC Beta Ready, Waiting on Microsoft & Sony

Wednesday, 14 September, 2011 at 13:51 PST | ^Scott^ | Print News
Speaking at the FNAC meeting in Paris, France, DICE GM Karl Magnus Troedsson gave a co-op demo of Battlefield 3 and answered questions. According to Planete-Battlefield.fr (unrelated to us), KM Kusa (French Community Manager) said the PC beta is ready, but now they are working with Microsoft and Sony to "accelerate preparations". From what we have heard, it takes 2-3 weeks for Microsoft and Sony to approve content, running it through tests to make sure it won't brick your console among other things. That said, we have no idea when the build was submitted to them. As far as we know, the the Battlefield 3 beta is still slated for sometime this month. Via EA UK Forums.

Planet Battlefield - GAMEFest: Q&A w/ DICE General Manager, KM Troedsson

Wednesday, 14 September, 2011 at 3:10 PST | ^Scott^ | Print News
DICE General Manager, Karl-Magnus Troedsson just finished giving a pre GAMEFest Battlefield 3 presentation and demo in Birmingham, UK. The Gamedigital twitter sat down with Mr. Troedsson behind the scenes to ask some fan submitted questions. Of course the Q&A ended with the infamous beta question, but no solid date was given.

Will the maps on console versions be scaled down to fit the reduced number of players?

KM Troedsson: Yes they will run on smaller versions of the same maps.

Are there any maps where no vehicles are present?

We actually have an ‘Infantry Only’ option for the player who wants to focus on this part of the experience.

Do you believe you have done all you can to max out the power on the Xbox 360 version of Battlefield 3?

We're definitely pushing the hardware much more than we did before with BFBC2.

Are there any plans to make another downloadable BF game, like you did with BF1942? That game was fantastic!

Glad you liked it! But sorry, can't comment on this.

What is your greatest achievement with Frostbite 2 and what will it mean for Battlefield 3?

It's how the engine enable us to deliver great visuals, stunning animations, awesome soundscape, large scale maps and total destruction. It enables us to build our all out war!

Will we see a return of the Battlefield Commander Role from BF2?

We've decided to push down the responsibility of the commander to the squad leaders who can set orders and strategize. The entire team can use the different communication tools available, spot enemies etc.

What is your favourite Battlefield moment from the whole series?

So much to choose from, but I have to say that the intro movie to BF1942 is something that still sticks with me.

Why have you included the prone position in battlefield 3, and why wasn't it included in earlier versions?

Prone is back because the community wanted it so badly! It's a bit of technical challenge to get right with Prone ...the animations, but more importantly it needs to be balanced with the other second-to-second gameplay.

If you're in a jet, do you have an unfair advantage over people in tanks and on foot in multiplayer?

Of course not. Battlefield has been built around a rock-paper-scissor mentality - there's always something to counter the other. Anything from infantry carried Stingers to mobile AA vehicles will give pilots a challenge.

Have you ever had a real battlefield experience? If so when and where?

Several parts of our team spend time hunting down the right reference material during pre-productions. This means going to military exercises to capture audio or to shooting ranges to evaluate weapons handling.

Will the console games ever have the number of players available to PC gamers?

Consoles are not as powerful as today’s PCs. Running 64 player matches would mean scaling down things like vehicles, destruction etc. These are key pillars of what Battlefield is all about, so this makes it a no for us.

Will there be expansions for #BF3 such as the Special Forces exp for BF2?

Yes, there will be PDLC post launch. We've announced the Back To Karkand pack but there will be more to come.

When will the Beta come out?

Soon, be patient! :) As soon as we can, we'll announce the date.
 
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Ackmed

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I don't. I like to play games on my 360 because I can sit back on my couch and relax and play games with a controller comfortably. The last thing I want is to have to play against a bunch of people with a KB+M, constantly getting raped.

Why not just play on the pc if a KB+M is what you want?

Why not give more options? Giving the players more options on how they can play a game is a good thing. The simple fact is, some people want kb+mouse support for consoles.
 

coldmeat

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Why not give more options? Giving the players more options on how they can play a game is a good thing. The simple fact is, some people want kb+mouse support for consoles.

If KB+M was disabled for MP I wouldn't care.
 

maniacalpha1-1

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I would say the eventual evolution is, consoles will come out that expect to be able to play PC-caliber games for 5 years before they start becoming weak, and they will need to enact KBM to keep up.

In that case, who knows, maybe they will have servers where you can't join based on what you have plugged in. Course there will be hacks, but even with PC which already has KBM, there are aimbotters et al.
 

Ackmed

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Get a pc or don't cry about it.

Wow, you are funny. I play ALL my fps on my PC. I dont do fps on consoles, thats just silly when its available on PC to me.

I was showing you how hypocritical it was when you were saying that console games shouldnt be able to use a kb+mouse, because you didnt want to get owned by people who did.

So back at you, get a kb+mouse for your console, or "don't cry about it". :eek:
 

Maximilian

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My weapons of choice!

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skipsneeky2

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I like playing bc2 on my htpc, thats hooked up to a 65" HDTV

37 incher here.

Gaming pc is next to the t.v keyboard and mouse on a small table in front of the couch all hooked up to a 5.1 logitech z506 soon to be z906 :thumbsup:

Pos emachines with a single core celeron for forum postings,emailing and the occasional msn sitting under a desk nearby almost like a mini lan .
 

Zargon

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37 incher here.

Gaming pc is next to the t.v keyboard and mouse on a small table in front of the couch all hooked up to a 5.1 logitech z506 soon to be z906 :thumbsup:

Pos emachines with a single core celeron for forum postings,emailing and the occasional msn sitting under a desk nearby almost like a mini lan .


q9550 and 6950 with a sidewinder and a gaming kb, and a bluetooth kb for media duties :)

a few more rigs in the office where I can eyefinity game
 

Demo24

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I'm actually looking forward to the single player. I played BC2's once and never gave it another thought. This one looks better so I'll definitely give it a try.
 

skipsneeky2

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q9550 and 6950 with a sidewinder and a gaming kb, and a bluetooth kb for media duties :)

a few more rigs in the office where I can eyefinity game

Never got much into multiple monitors but i was at frys the night before picking up a soundcard and a g110 keyboard and my gf fell in love with this set up they had.

The set up was like $1,700 with two monitors some hp gamer and a fancy desk.

I was like i could buy the fancy desk and the dual monitors but never that pos hp so i think eyefinity could be in my future with 3 23 inch monitors cause i feel thats the only thing worthy of replacing my t.v :D
 

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Battleblog #11: Every Battlefield 3 Multiplayer Game Mode Explained

by HBrun
Posted: Sep 15, 2011, 12:00AM

In Battlefield 3, all maps adapt to the five multiplayer game modes available at launch. Read on for the full breakdown of every multiplayer mode in the game, plus details on how you can tweak each match to suit your personal tastes even further.

Long standing classic Battlefield game modes Conquest and Rush are back in Battlefield 3, together with interesting new additions to make this our broadest and deepest Battlefield yet. From the close quarters infantry combat of Team Deathmatch and Squad Deathmatch to objective driven all-out vehicle warfare – Battlefield 3 has it all. All of the 9 huge multiplayer maps in Battlefield 3 adapt to all 5 game modes, effectively giving you 45 distinctly different multiplayer experiences to choose between. Without further ado, here are the five available multiplayer modes at launch in detail. What they are, what their respective goals are, and how they play.


Team Deathmatch
Availability: On all 9 maps
Players: 24 (12 vs. 12)
Focus: Team Based Infantry Combat
Goal: Eliminate a set number of enemy combatants
Winning the game: The team that reaches the set kill number first is declared the winner

Team Deathmatch is of the true classics when it comes to multiplayer game modes, and a game mode that makes its first appearance in a Battlefield game since the original Battlefield 1942. In Team Deathmatch, two teams of 12 players each duke it out on tight knit maps with a distinct infantry focus – there are no vehicles available in Team Deathmatch. For that quick instant action fix, this is the perfect game mode. For players new to Battlefield, this is a good place to start. Once you get the hang of the infantry gameplay, you can move on to deeper modes that include the signature vehicle warfare for which Battlefield is known and loved.


Squad Deathmatch
Availability: On all 9 maps
Players: 16 (4 squads of 4)
Focus: Squad Based Infantry Combat
Goal: Eliminate a set number of enemy combatants
Winning the game: The squad that reaches the set kill number first is declared the winner

Squad Deathmatch is a larger and more dynamic variety of deathmatch that also features the inclusion of an Infantry Fighting Vehicle (IFV). The IFV can help break a deadlock, as long as you keep it alive with solid Engineer gameplay. The 4 squad setup means that there is a constant battle throughout the game to gain and maintain the lead. Sticking together, keeping your squad healed up, supplied, and repaired are the keys to victory. The squad that can combine the potent Battlefield mix of team play and combat prowess will be proven the winner.


Rush
Availability: On all 9 maps
Players: 24/32 (Console/PC)
Focus: Objective Based All-out Warfare
Goal: Attack/defend M-COM stations
Winning the game: Destroy all M-COM stations/Deplete the attacker’s tickets (Attackers/Defenders)

First introduced in Battlefield: Bad Company, Rush has now made its way to the heart of the Battlefield series in Battlefield 3. An objective based mode, the attackers have to arm and detonate pairs of M-COM stations in each area of the map to unlock the next area and the next pair of M-COM stations. While defenders have an unlimited amount of spawn tickets, attackers only get new tickets every time they destroy a pair of M-COMs. If all M-COM stations on the entire map are destroyed, the attackers are declared the winning team. If the defenders manage to deplete the attacker’s tickets to zero (by killing them), the defenders are declared the winners.

As an all-out warfare mode, Rush features a large variety of vehicle setups tuned specifically to that map’s landscape and features. Players can find all types of vehicles on Rush maps, including transport vehicles, armored vehicles, helicopters, and of course, jets. Rush offers a compelling objective based all-out warfare game mode for Battlefield veterans.

If you are familiar with this game mode from Battlefield: Bad Company 2, you might want to know we are refining it for Battlefield 3 in a number of ways, based on player feedback. Some of the gameplay tweaks we are bringing to Rush are:
* You cannot use explosives or shoot at the M-COM to take it out. Only arm and disarm.
* If the attacking team arms the M-COM but runs out of tickets, the match will continue until the M-COM detonates or defenders disarm it
* If the defenders start disarming an M-COM just before it’s about to blow, the explosion is prevented until the disarm is accomplished. If the defender gets killed during the disarm process, the M-COM will instantly blow


Squad Rush
Availability: On all 9 maps
Players: 8 (4 vs. 4)
Focus: Squad Based Infantry Combat
Goal: Attack/defend M-COM stations
Winning the game: Destroy all M-COM stations/Deplete the attacker’s tickets (Attackers/Defenders)

Squad Rush is the ultimate test to show which squad is the best of the best. Squad Rush is an extremely tight duel between two squads that borrows the main rules from normal Rush, but in a much more intimate setting. In Squad Rush there are only 2 bases with 1 M-COM station per base, meaning that every M-COM taken or defended in Squad Rush is vital to the victory or defeat of the game. There are no vehicles in Squad Rush, so it’s all down to your infantry fighting skills.

To be successful it’s key that you and your squad mates customize your soldiers to complement each other on the battlefield, in order to keep reviving fallen mates, provide ammo, and perform other essential duties. Squad Rush is often favored by players who know each other’s play styles intimately and want to show their skills in the most personal of combat settings.


Conquest
Availability: On all 9 maps
Players: 24/32 or 64 (Console/PC)
Focus: Objective Based All-out Warfare
Goal: Capture and Hold Flags
Winning the game: Deplete opposing team’s tickets

Conquest is without a doubt the most classic of Battlefield game modes. Introduced in Battlefield 1942, Conquest has defined the entire Battlefield series (and influenced a lot of other games out there) and encompasses everything that makes Battlefield great. Set over a series of large-scale maps, Conquest is the game mode best suited for the experience of all-out vehicle warfare. In Conquest, two teams fight for control of a number of flags by being the dominant force in the vicinity of each base. Capture and keep control of a majority of the flags and the enemy team will bleed tickets. Killing enemies will also reduce their ticket count, and the first team to run out of tickets loses.

Conquest is a strategic and tactical game that often asks you to make important decisions on whether to attack an enemy base or defend one of your own. Your forces will rarely be enough to capture and hold every base on the map, so in-game communication and quick thinking is necessary to be victorious. Of all of the game modes we have invented here at DICE, Conquest will always have a special place in our hearts.

Tweak your game with Hardcore and Infantry Only settings

Not a fan of vehicles? No problem -- just click the “Infantry Only” box in your server browser when searching for a server game where no attack vehicles will spawn in, only transports. This is a great way to get a feel for the game or the map before you go all-out warfare.

Want a more lethal and tactical game mode where the risk and reward is even higher? With the Hardcore Mode setting, we are leaving you on the battlefield without much external help from the game interface. This game mode modifier will test the limits of your skills.

You can flick the Hardcore switch for any of the regular game modes. Doing so tends to turn matches into more deliberate and tactical affairs, since the penalty for being careless is higher. A lot of players prefer Hardcore Mode since it means that flanking and ambushing pays off to a higher degree, or because of the increased sense of immersion and authenticity that comes with removing user interface elements.

There is something for everyone in Battlefield 3’s adaptable array of multiplayer modes, maps, and modifiers. Add our many customization options for vehicles, weapons and classes, and you can see why we call this our biggest and deepest Battlefield yet.
 
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maevinj

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I find I die a lot more in hardcore, [bold]because if I pop my head out of cover for more than just a second, I get sniped.[/bold] It's really annoying. Sometimes I will see my teammates standing out in the open for a long time just firing towards the enemy, so I figure it's safe. As soon as I stand up, I get instantly sniped.

We usually win because there are so many snipers on the other team doing nothing useful, but it doesn't make it any less annoying.

Don't pop your head out. Problem solved. Smoke grenades are great...