**OFFICIAL** AT Battlefield 3 FAQ and News Thread

[DeadFred]

Are the spawn problems due to the fact that the servers are running too high on player count or is it still an issue with 16 players?

Its an issue with 6 people in a server.

As someone stated earlier, DICE needs to implement a CoD style spawn system. If you are gonna copy CoD on everything else, then why not go all the way. :biggrin:

 

[Exterous]

Eh? I thought they disabled the spawn protection for CQB. At least that has been my experience, as I have spawned dead lots of times.

I could be wrong but I think its still there. It is cancelled the instant you start moving but if you just stand there and look around you get 2 seconds of protection

I'd try and check but most of the news about CQB is blocked at work

Are the spawn problems due to the fact that the servers are running too high on player count or is it still an issue with 16 players?

That was one of my thoughts. I plan on giving the smaller servers a shot tonight

 

[QuantumPion]

I could be wrong but I think its still there. It is cancelled the instant you start moving but if you just stand there and look around you get 2 seconds of protection

I'd try and check but most of the news about CQB is blocked at work

That can't be right because I literally spawn already dead on many occasions. There's no way it's 2 seconds.

Maybe it is linked to how long it takes your computer to load, so people with slow computers are protected before their screen is loaded. But I'm pretty sure once your screen is loaded and you can see, you are vulnerable.

 

[Zargon]

Another issue I had with Premium is that they didn't tell us what the other 2 DLC is going to be. Not a fan of CQ but I would have gotten Premium if I knew the other 2 DLC is something I would like just for the extra guns.

one is coop horde, so the rumormill says

 

[Exterous]

That can't be right because I literally spawn already dead on many occasions. There's no way it's 2 seconds.

Maybe it is linked to how long it takes your computer to load, so people with slow computers are protected before their screen is loaded. But I'm pretty sure once your screen is loaded and you can see, you are vulnerable.

That might make sense and explain why they sometimes stand still when I first see them

 

[DeadFred]

Ive been know to 'ahem' spawn camp on occasion, and I can tell you that the spawn protection does exist and it seems far longer than 2 seconds. If you start shooting them the instant they spawn you will run empty and they will kill you on the reload. ROFL

 

[Zargon]

I must be runing before I spawn then....always in a hurry 😛

 

[sigurros81]

Ive been know to 'ahem' spawn camp on occasion, and I can tell you that the spawn protection does exist and it seems far longer than 2 seconds. If you start shooting them the instant they spawn you will run empty and they will kill you on the reload. ROFL

I've done the exact same thing--unloading on a guy who still has spawn protection only to be killed by him when I'm empty. And yes, there is spawn protection in CQ. It turns off as soon as you move.

 

[maevinj]

Ive been know to 'ahem' spawn camp on occasion, and I can tell you that the spawn protection does exist and it seems far longer than 2 seconds. If you start shooting them the instant they spawn you will run empty and they will kill you on the reload. ROFL

I too have "experienced" this :/

 

[Childs]

Most of you must be on the west coast. What time do you guys play? I kept checking battlelog and saw a few ATer's here and there, but no groups.

There is as many as 8 people on my list that play from around 6PM PST on to 1AM PST. I usually start around 7-8PM PST, and there are usually 3-4 people that I see regularly.

Yeah - I'm not so sure. I love Metro, Bazaar and Seine but I am not sure about these maps. Maybe its just the unfamiliarity with the maps but it is too free flowing for my tastes. With 15 ways to get to point A on three different levels I am finding it very frustrating. There is no battle front to deal with - just a melee mess. "Yo dog, I heard you like flanking so I put a flank in your flank so you can flank and get flanked while flanking"

I was referring to the circular design on Bazaar. I guess Seinne Crossing is also circular. Metro and Peak are linear. I think the main problem is the spawning, and because the maps are smaller, there are so many routes, so many rooms, hallways, and because the destruction is amped up, checking an area doesnt mean squat. I believe in COD the only time people randomly spawn is when they are triple capped. Trying to hold 2 of 3 flags on these maps doesnt mean anything, because they spawn right behind your defenses. Unless you are sitting right on a flag. Which is what I think I'm going to do more of.

 

[Don Karnage]

Ive been know to 'ahem' spawn camp on occasion, and I can tell you that the spawn protection does exist and it seems far longer than 2 seconds. If you start shooting them the instant they spawn you will run empty and they will kill you on the reload. ROFL

Agreed. Thats why i wait 2 seconds before i start shooting them. I usually spawn camp at A on Kharg when playing the russian side if the american team sucks. They'll spawn behind the gas storage containers. I had 5 straight knife kills there once before getting taken out

 

[Canbacon]

Are the spawn problems due to the fact that the servers are running too high on player count or is it still an issue with 16 players?

CQ more often than not, doesn't work with 64 players, unless you get on the stacked team 😛. I did have a crazy game last night where I was able to flank successfully to be greeted with a gift of 10 players with their backs to me. At that moment, I was happy to have my SPAS with me.

32 or lower seems to be the sweet spot and that kind of makes me wonder who they had in mind when they developed this expansion. Sticking with lower cap servers warmed me a bit to the new expansion because it is definitely less chaotic.

 

[sigurros81]

CQ more often than not, doesn't work with 64 players, unless you get on the stacked team 😛. I did have a crazy game last night where I was able to flank successfully to be greeted with a gift of 10 players with their backs to me. At that moment, I was happy to have my SPAS with me.

32 or lower seems to be the sweet spot and that kind of makes me wonder who they had in mind when they developed this expansion. Sticking with lower cap servers warmed me a bit to the new expansion because it is definitely less chaotic.

32 is still very chaotic, I have yet to try 16 or 24, so I will give that a try tonight.

 

[Exterous]

I must be runing before I spawn then....always in a hurry 😛

Same here. The shift key or med/ammo pack key is always being mashed down right after I click to spawn. Perhaps I will try slowing down a tad

There is as many as 8 people on my list that play from around 6PM PST on to 1AM PST. I usually start around 7-8PM PST, and there are usually 3-4 people that I see regularly.

I don't think there are many people on the east coast who play regularly

I was referring to the circular design on Bazaar. I guess Seinne Crossing is also circular. Metro and Peak are linear.

Ah - ok.

 

[DeadFred]

There is as many as 8 people on my list that play from around 6PM PST on to 1AM PST. I usually start around 7-8PM PST, and there are usually 3-4 people that I see regularly.

I left just before 9PM EST, probably right about the time you come online. I have to spend some time with the wife or she gets cranky. Maybe I can catch ya on the weekends.

 

[Zargon]

32 or lower seems to be the sweet spot and that kind of makes me wonder who they had in mind when they developed this expansion. Sticking with lower cap servers warmed me a bit to the new expansion because it is definitely less chaotic.

They were pretty clear. Listed sizes are 2-16p!

Tapatalking on my pos thunderbolt. Sorry for teh typos!

 

[Destiny]

The random spawn points are hilarious and annoying at the same time.

In Conquest:

1. If you are lucky, you spawn right behind a squad or group and go on a knifing spree (but most of the time knifing is glitched so its moot in the heat of the battle).:sneaky:

2. If you are un-lucky, you spawn in the middle of a fire fight or in a middle of a group of enemies and you get gang-banged to valhalla! D:

3. You spawn and get knifed immediately! (I always move quick after spawn so no spawn protection). 😱

In Gun Battle:

1. 50% of the time at the very start of each round I spawn with an enemy in the same room... so we stare each other down till the round counts down and we whip out our pistols like Wild West showdowns. 😀

I still can't get pass Level 16 because of the stupid nade launcher... maybe I should just camp with it and get lucky someone walks over the nades I shoot... :sneaky:

 

[QuantumPion]

Just be thankful they didn't make level 16 an EOD bot. 😱

 

[DeadFred]

The spawns are so screwed playing Conquest Domination that it almost feels like its just pure dumb luck as to who wins or loses.

I like the frantic chaos but only 2-3 rounds at a time. If I play any more than that it starts to feel repetitive to me.

 

[sigurros81]

The spawns are so screwed playing Conquest Domination that it almost feels like its just pure dumb luck as to who wins or loses.

I like the frantic chaos but only 2-3 rounds at a time. If I play any more than that it starts to feel repetitive to me.

I have a feeling that after a couple of weeks everyone will go back to playing the bigger maps. Mainly because the people who play BF3 bought the game for Battlefield, not COD. If they want hectic running and gunning chaos, they would have gotten COD, which does a much better job at balancing the style of game play than Close Quarters.

 

[tornadog]

I just bought the game + premium pack. What are the best places for newbies to start out. I may try out the SP first though. Once I am bored of that or if it is short enough to beaten in a week, I will start trying MP!

 

[QuantumPion]

I just bought the game + premium pack. What are the best places for newbies to start out. I may try out the SP first though. Once I am bored of that or if it is short enough to beaten in a week, I will start trying MP!

I'd say try to do a round of each map and each mode before you get stuck into doing 24/7 Metro or whatever. That way you get a feel for the maps and what modes and stuff you like. Easiest class to start out would be engineer IMO since after a mere 10 kills with the M4/AKS, you get a red dot sight and those are excellent guns.

 

[Zargon]

Try to get on lower player count servers so you can explore more

Tapatalking on my pos thunderbolt. Sorry for teh typos!

 

[VulgarDisplay]

WTF they need to fix how origin handles DLC. I had no idea that my dlc wasn't installed, and also no idea what caused it to start downloading.

I just spent like 45 minutes uninstalling my browser plugins, forcing bf3.exe into admin mode and all sorts of other crap trying to get the game to run. Turns out the dlc wasn't downloaded.

The only way I knew it wasn't downloaded was the tiny progress bar at the bottom of origin. No idea when I told it to download, but it started somehow and throughout all my problems it never mentioned that it wasn't installed.

Strange, and my first negative experience with Origin.

 

[DeadFred]

WTF they need to fix how origin handles DLC. I had no idea that my dlc wasn't installed, and also no idea what caused it to start downloading.

I just spent like 45 minutes uninstalling my browser plugins, forcing bf3.exe into admin mode and all sorts of other crap trying to get the game to run. Turns out the dlc wasn't downloaded.

The only way I knew it wasn't downloaded was the tiny progress bar at the bottom of origin. No idea when I told it to download, but it started somehow and throughout all my problems it never mentioned that it wasn't installed.

Strange, and my first negative experience with Origin.

It probably started downloading when you first tried to enter one of the new map servers. Origin needs to communicate with us better.

Speaking of communication........If anyone sends me a message on battlelog and I dont reply, its not that Im ignoring anyone, its one of two things:

1. If Im in a game; Battlelog never tells me that I have a message and I dont see it until I close my game. 😕
2. If Im online but not in a game and you get no reply; I have a bad habit of going AFK and forgetting to set Origin to away status. 😳