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gonzal13

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Significantly increased the damage of the Javelin and Air to Ground missiles against laser designated targets. Javelin missiles fired without laser targeting now do more damage to the side and rear of MBTs. Slightly reduced the locking time of all weapons vs Laser Designated targets.

This will be incredibly dangerous. Last night, me and a squad working together on Caspian. We take Hilltop (D) one of us is sniper with SOFAM, 2 of us are using Jav, and one of us is support. We held the base the entire time, just absolutely destorying every piece of aircraft.

We would have to intermittenly fend of infantry attacks or a tank rolling in, but for the most part we controlled the entire map from D and if they make the Javelins even more powerful would be kinda OP IMO.
 

Zargon

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This will be incredibly dangerous. Last night, me and a squad working together on Caspian. We take Hilltop (D) one of us is sniper with SOFAM, 2 of us are using Jav, and one of us is support. We held the base the entire time, just absolutely destorying every piece of aircraft.

We would have to intermittenly fend of infantry attacks or a tank rolling in, but for the most part we controlled the entire map from D and if they make the Javelins even more powerful would be kinda OP IMO.



yeah I am pretty sure the last patch buff/nerfs made it onto that list so I doubt its happening again
 

QuantumPion

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I like how one douchebag can post a thread on the EA forum about how x is OP, the thread can go for 50 pages about how the OP is an idiot, but then a week later EA comes out and says they are making that change due to popular support.

Really...they just nerfed the SCAR because it could kill in 3 shots at short range. Now they want to make snipers OHK because they like the idea of aggressive recon? What about aggressive engineer? Fuck.
 

Nintendesert

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Hmmm I don't know, I find the grenade/rocket spam to be much greater than in BC2 or Vietnam. Maps like Metro are unplayable.
 

Termie

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Hmmm I don't know, I find the grenade/rocket spam to be much greater than in BC2 or Vietnam. Maps like Metro are unplayable.

Easy fix, don't play Metro. There's almost no M320 use in any of the other maps (maybe Davamand to a certain extent). The M320 is actually pretty hard to use in anything other than a narrow corridor. I've used it to some effect on the more open maps, but have rarely been hit by it, so I'd say it's fairly rare (i.e., in most matches, my M320 is the only one I see being used).

I tend to think that snipers camping on hilltops (not those in the middle of the map) are doing much more harm to the gameplay in this game, as they get lots of kills, no deaths, and have virtually no impact on the objectives of the game.
 

96Firebird

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The M320s are pretty common on TDM servers, but other than that I haven't really seen them. I don't play 24/7 Metro servers though, I've seen some crazy stuff when I was in one for a bit. Seems whenever I play Metro on mixed map servers, there are "normal" players...
 

VulgarDisplay

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Dude, you were slaughtering us two nights ago with a clan buddy of yours. You went 54-12 in at least one match against Expandas, Greg, Paqster, me, and a few others. I think you were fed up with the jet tweaks too.

Have you considered that perhaps you don't need the accuracy help? ;)

The thing about random bullet deviation is that it doesn't make aiming harder. It just makes it random.

They need to increase actual recoil and have the bullets go where the rifle is aiming. I remember playing COD:UO recently and the recoil was INSANE compared to recent FPS games.

It was awesome because you had to actually be good to get your gun under control. Random bullet spread removes good from the equation and promotes lucky.

Also, I constantly whine. It's a problem I know lol.... I'll be going 24-1 and have someone kill me and it's the game's fault not mine lol.
 

Childs

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Alright punks...give up your battlelog names so I can shoot you in the arse with the SV98! :p But seriously, you honestly think its unreasonable to have a bolt action kill someone when hit in the chest at 15m or less? If you side strafe, 90% of the time that sniper will miss and you should have an easy kill. And if you cant do it reliably, you're mostly likely dying at a high rate anyways so why do you care...

And dont underestimate aggressive recon. I would put my team score up against anyone when I run recon.
 
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Zargon

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Really...they just nerfed the SCAR because it could kill in 3 shots at short range. Now they want to make snipers OHK because they like the idea of aggressive recon? What about aggressive engineer? Fuck.

its one hit kill in a small area, part of the upper chest, not even everywhere in the torso

and seriously, these are the slowest firing weapons in the game :p
 

DeadFred

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People that run around blasting away with full autos and toobs and then whine about OHK snipers really crack me up.
 
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even with supposedly hardcore mode, i'm amazed by how many times someone has to be shot in order to kill them. vehicles too. when someone survives 6 or 7 gunshots (i see the hit indicator plain as day) and hits me between the eyes, it's tough to enjoy the game. never mind multiple hits and no kill with tanks and other big weapons. why not put on a cape and fly around the map? seriously, this game is whack.
 

QuantumPion

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So I was in a good game of Metro conquest (good in that both sides kept flanking each other and retaking each other's control points, no nade fest in the stairs). I decided to try out the USAS-12 because I kept running around corners into 4 enemies at once so I figured this would be the ideal time to use it. I killed this one guy several times and he started calling me a no-skill noob, which I thought was funny. After the round, I looked up his battlelog, and holy hell. Is this even possible without cheating?
 

Zargon

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even with supposedly hardcore mode, i'm amazed by how many times someone has to be shot in order to kill them. vehicles too. when someone survives 6 or 7 gunshots (i see the hit indicator plain as day) and hits me between the eyes, it's tough to enjoy the game. never mind multiple hits and no kill with tanks and other big weapons. why not put on a cape and fly around the map? seriously, this game is whack.

yeah im hopefull they arent kidding about turning up the suppresion effects
 

sigurros81

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I'd love for future DLCs to have some dusk or dawn maps. For several reasons, I think it'd be something different than all the maps we've seen in Battlefield. For one, I'm tired of bright mid day maps, it'd be nice to bring in a new color palette for a change with some nice sunsets/sunrises.

Is there anywhere I can go to so I can suggest this to the developers, DICE seems to be hung up on high noon bright as hell maps.
 

Childs

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After the round, I looked up his battlelog, and holy hell. Is this even possible without cheating?

Maybe. I have about 1000 kills with 1 weapon, with 14 hours of use. So multiply to get to 50 hours and times 2.3 KDR and its in the ballpark. His accuracy with most weapons is around 25%, mine is half that, which is reasonable as I know I leave a lot of kills on the table. His headshot percentage is around 33%. Mine is around 20%. So more kills for the same % of bullets fired. That probably makes up the difference. And since his KD is low (compared to vehicle users), he probably plays infantry only or lots of Metro. I played a 24/7 Metro server last night, and averaged 27/10 over 4 games. Destiny was doing even better. In the past I have gotten even higher scores. In fact I bailed because it felt like a bad night. I'm alright, but there are at least 5 Aters I can think of off the top of my head that are better. Or, I should say, have better numbers. :biggrin: Anyways, there are ways to KD whore. His quit % is almost 20%, so he could be selecting his competition.

Now, if his headshot %, KPM and KDR was higher it would be suspicious, but it seems reasonable. The AEK-971 was a monster. With the machine guns for example, very low accuracy, but high KPM. You can only do that on Metro, and maybe Bazaar. Aimbotters would have better numbers. Unless he aimbots part time, and sucks so bad without it that it brings his numbers down to mask the aimbotting. But thats like Lex Luthor stuff...

EDIT: And look at his battle reports. Pretty much all Metro, with a Seine and Bazaar thrown in. And it looks like he's a live streamer. Dude is just good.
 
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Destiny

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Recon isn't as lame as those motherfucking stupid M320 spammers on any close quarters map. Just got done playing metro and all it was was M320 spam. This shit is worse than MW.

I really regret buying this crap game.

Have you tried other maps?

Metro has become the map to rank up faster than all other maps - it is for noob tubing and spawn killing... I'm usually on Metro to get medals and stats pad...:biggrin:

But most of the time I'm trying to flank the other team...

played a 24/7 Metro server last night, and averaged 27/10 over 4 games. Destiny was doing even better.

I play way too much Metro...
 
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Destiny

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Alright punks...give up your battlelog names so I can shoot you in the arse with the SV98! :p But seriously, you honestly think its unreasonable to have a bolt action kill someone when hit in the chest at 15m or less? If you side strafe, 90% of the time that sniper will miss and you should have an easy kill. And if you cant do it reliably, you're mostly likely dying at a high rate anyways so why do you care...

And dont underestimate aggressive recon. I would put my team score up against anyone when I run recon.

I miss the Counterstrike days where the AWP is one shot kill ANYWARE (Yes I am old) and accuracy was not affected when jumping (I was doing ALOT of Matrix stuff and bunnyhopping ) - no one complaining... when people called me a noob for using the AWP I switched to AK47 and I become even more deadlier in CS..:biggrin:

People that run around blasting away with full autos and toobs and then whine about OHK snipers really crack me up.
I know... right?:colbert:
Its a war game... war is not suppose to be fair... some guns are better than others... at the end of the day skill and smarts over ride any gun and run... just suck it up, pick a weapon to practice and get good, and kill some people to help your team - especially when your own team is getting pwn...
 

Childs

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I miss the Counterstrike days where the AWP is one shot kill ANYWARE (Yes I am old) and accuracy was not affected when jumping (I was doing ALOT of Matrix stuff and bunnyhopping ) - no one complaining... when people called me a noob for using the AWP I switched to AK47 and I become even more deadlier in CS..:biggrin:

Yeah, AK was probably the best gun in the game. Out snipe an AWPer, and up close just unload and kill everyone in a hallway.
 

VulgarDisplay

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Anyone else getting frequent crashes while flying planes?

Oh and I mean crashes to desktop not the ones that involve me sucking at flying.
 
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Childs

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I had 5 hard crashes tonight, but none while flying.

EDIT: 6 crashes.

EDIT: *sigh* make that 7.
 
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raasco

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I miss the Counterstrike days where the AWP is one shot kill ANYWARE (Yes I am old) and accuracy was not affected when jumping (I was doing ALOT of Matrix stuff and bunnyhopping ) - no one complaining... when people called me a noob for using the AWP I switched to AK47 and I become even more deadlier in CS..:biggrin:


I know... right?:colbert:
Its a war game... war is not suppose to be fair... some guns are better than others... at the end of the day skill and smarts over ride any gun and run... just suck it up, pick a weapon to practice and get good, and kill some people to help your team - especially when your own team is getting pwn...

I was always the guy using the Scout and picking off the people using the AWP. I don't think that there should be any sniper rifles that should be "one shot kills"... where is the challenge?