*** Official ASUS P4C800/Deluxe (875P) Thread ***

[Kawy]

I didn't have too much of a problem locking down the heatsink with the 3.4 cpu. The alien case has a digital display on the front that has cpu and hard drive temperatures. I check them against what I see in Asus Probe and they seem to be right on, at least for the cpu. I have no way to check the hard drive since its not monitored by anything else. The CPU temp increases after it freezes up, I am just assuming that the fan speed control goes to low speed when this happens. It usually climbs from 30 up to 38 to 39. I know this isn't that warm, just an observation of what the unit is doing. I have been recording the temps with asus probe, the highest I got while running a game was 45 deg. I also think there will be a series of beeps coming from the speaker if there is an overheating issue. I do not hear any beeps at all.

 

[Xeon]

Originally posted by: Kawy
Hello All, new to this forum. Scanned through the posts on the P4C800-E Deluxe and didn't catch anyone having similar problems as I have. What is going on is the system will freeze at no particular time or processor temperature. What I have for components - P4 3.4 ghz with hyper threading, 2 gb of Crucial ram, 500w power supply, Asus radeon 9800 xt video card. There are 2 maxtor 120gb SATA hard drives. The video card is the only thing installed on the mother board. I have updated all the drivers, and the bios is 1016. I am running windows xp professional. The system runs awesome when it is working, just freezes up and nothing will respond, not even control-alt-delete. I have to press the reset button and it restarts. When it does freeze, the display stays where it was, doesn't go black, but my optical mouse light goes out. Which tells me something is going on in the motherboard, but I am getting no help from Asus. I have read about this problem in other forums but no one seems to have a solution. Some have brought up that the hyperthreading is causing issues, I did download the chipset drivers direct from intel and tried them, but still no help. Sometimes it will go 24 hrs and run fine, other times it will do it in a couple of hours.

Are you running manual memory timings and have you set them to match the sticks of RAM you have in this box? Also, are you running just stock BIOS or did you up the FSB as well?

Whenever I hear these kinds of issues that you're having it's usually because the user didn't go in and match the settings in the bios to the equipment they have. The BIOS does not detect the proper settings to set your RAM for speed and this causes problems for some types of ram which like to run at their spec'd settings.

Anyway that's my first guess as to what your problem is.

 

[Kawy]

I will check that, I ordered the ram from Crucial by selecting the asus motherboard and ordering what they said was supposed to be in the system. Maybe that is an issue. Thanks

 

[Xeon]

Originally posted by: Kawy
I will check that, I ordered the ram from Crucial by selecting the asus motherboard and ordering what they said was supposed to be in the system. Maybe that is an issue. Thanks

What is your ram exactly? Can you tell me the model and stock timings? If so I can tell you exactly what you should set in the bios to see if it corrects your problem.

 

[Kawy]

I just went into the bios and manually set the ram for its specs. It is DDR 3200 400mhz, 2.6volt, 64 meg x 64. There are 4 pieces of this totalling 2 gb. I'll run this with these settings and see what happens.

 

[Xeon]

Originally posted by: Kawy
I just went into the bios and manually set the ram for its specs. It is DDR 3200 400mhz, 2.6volt, 64 meg x 64. There are 4 pieces of this totalling 2 gb. I'll run this with these settings and see what happens.

Did you set the bios for 'Configure DRAM Timing by SPD' to - Disabled, and then set the timings appropriately? I would also run the ram at 2.8. You'll find that it runs much better and has less probems if you do.

See ya,

 

[Kawy]

I will double check the settings, thank you for the info.!

 

[coreano]

Hello,

Just wondering if anyone else has had any kind of issues running an ATI AIW 9800 Pro with this mobo? I have a p4 3.2c on a p4c800e dlx mobo and my system will randomly freeze. On the reboot I get a winxp send error report saying that the AIW 9800 Pro caused a serious error. Power supply is a SilenX 400w.

TIA

 

[Kawy]

Let computer run overnight with updated bios settings for ram, still freezes up.

Just wondering if anyone else has had any kind of issues running an ATI AIW 9800 Pro with this mobo? I have a p4 3.2c on a p4c800e dlx mobo and my system will randomly freeze. On the reboot I get a winxp send error report saying that the AIW 9800 Pro caused a serious error. Power supply is a SilenX 400w.

I am running an Asus version of the 9800xt, screen freezes on me, but I never get a windows error. Do you have the latest drivers for the video card?

 

[jhites]

Originally posted by: Kawy
Let computer run overnight with updated bios settings for ram, still freezes up.

Have you tried running MemTest 86+ on that ram? I would test the 4 sticks together and then use only two sticks in the blue or black slots and test them again. If you don't get any errors at your settings, then it is most likely not your ram.

 

[djanassis]

Could anyone please help me!!!!!!!!!???????

This is driving me mad!

When I boot on my ASUS P4C800, my LCD display is blank up until the point that windows starts.

This means I get no POST and I cannot enter the setup.

When the LCD display (Dell 2001FP) is connected to my graphics card (ASUS v9950u Geforce FX 5900 Ultra 256MB) using the analog cable, then everything is fine. Also, when I both my LCD and my SONY 17" CRT monitors plugged together on the VGA (DVI and Analog), then only the CRT monitor shows the post during the boot, and then they both work when winXP Pro starts to load.

I have flashed the bios (blah, blah) numerous times (1016 revision at the moment) with no result....

My system's configuration is:

- ASUS P4C800
- P4 2.8GHz (800 MHz FSB)
- 4 x 256 Kingston DDR PC3200 CL2 Hyper-X - running dual channel
- ASUS v9950u - Geforce FX 5900 Ultra 256MB (thinking of flashing it to v9980u although this story is not encouraging at all - I have both BIOSs if anyone is interested)
- 350W PSU
- Dell 2001FP (20" LCD) - 16ms - 1600x1200 with DVI-out, D-SUB, S-Video and Composite Video inputs.
- SONY CPD-G220 (17" CRT) - max 1600x1200.
- 2 x 80gb WD800JB (8mb cache)
- ASUS CD-RW 52x
- SONY DVD-ROM 16x

Some help would really be appreciated - as I've been on this problem 2 days now...

PLEASEEEEEEEEE

Thanks

(PS: By the way, does anyone know how to make my LCD and CRT monitors' USB hubs work?)


Sorry, I forgot to mention that the system has been working fine since I built it (some 6 months now) and the problem appeared right after I tried to mess with the "MyLogo" feature of the motherboard.

I should also stress that the (LCD only) monitor (and again only when using the DVI-out - with the analog d-sub, everything is fine)

Thanks. Any help will be much appreciated.

Dimitris

 

[BroadbandGamer]

Does the P4C800-E Deluxe have problems with Corsair XMS memory? I wast thinking of getting one of these but was told it might not work with my memory.

Thanks,

 

[computer]

djanassis, I've never used an LCD monitor yet, but from what you tell me sounds like it may be something you did with the MyLogo feature. Get into the BIOS (using the CRT monitor) and set that POST screen logo area back to disabling the Asus logo and to where you can see the POST info. Then try it on the LCD.

 

[computer]

A few days ago I did some memory tests and benchmarks using 4 sticks instead of my two, and new two were OCZ Gold (my current memory is Geil PC4000 Ultra Platinum). I did this for the heck of it since I knew odd things may happen mixing two different memory brands. For one, the max O'clock was only 265mhz compared to 281mhz with Geil alone, and 288mhz with OCZ alone (which I sort of expected). However what I did not expect, and the problem is these were all 256mb single sided modules, yet PAT would not work!! What's up with that? Why would PAT show disabled with 4 SINGLE sided sticks?? I heard it gets disabled with DOUBLE sided, but not single sided. Could be PAT became disabled due to the sticks not being matched?? Are any of you running 4 single sided memory modules and PAT is still showing enabled in CPUz?

 

[djanassis]

I have tried entering the bios and changing everything back to normal - disabling the logo appearance, but nothing works.

As I'm saying in my original post (3 posts up), when both of them are connected (that is LCD monitor through DVI and CRT monitor through d-sub), during boot-up it is only the CRT that shows the post screen, then it goes black (ALTHOUGH YOU CAN PUT THE CURSOR ON IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) and the LCD starts windows up normally. Then both of them are on normally,,,,,,

I think through the BIOS upgrades of the motherboard (AND EVEN THOUGH I HAVE GONE BACK NOW TO THE ORIGINAL BIOS,,,,), the motherboard cannot recognize the DVI-out of the card during the initial boot-up DOS mode... I am saying this because when I use the d-sub (analog) cable with the monitor everything is fine.

I am thinking about formatting and seeing what happens.......

I don't know.........

 

[computer]

Formatting isn't going to help this issue since it has nothing to do with an OS. This is an issue long before the HD and OS comes into play. Strange one too, I've never heard of it before. Do you think maybe the LCD has to "warm up" (for lack of a better term)? Have you tried to hit the "pause/break" button just after you power up and wait a bit to see if anything then shows on the LCD? I guess repeatedly pressing the "delete" key right after you power up would serve the same purpose since it would go in the BIOS then.

 

[djanassis]

I have tried everything to no avail.

I have just realised though that even though I have gone back to the original BIOS (5/6/2003) that was in the Motherboard's CD, AND have cleared the CMOS, what happens is that when I boot, it is stated at the top ACPI BIOS revision 1016, which corresponds to the latest update (18/3/2004).

Does this mean that the "downgrade" of the BIOS has not been successful and that the new BIOS has an issue with not recognizing my LCD monitor, and since I can't totally go back to the old BIOS, it still has an influence?

Thanks for your replies...

 

[djanassis]

Also, a complementary issue:

My motherboard's box read "P4C800-E Gold". The simple question is:
Which motherboard is it? Is it the plain P4C800, is it the P4C800-E Deluxe with a different name? This question becomes really important when considering upgrading of the BIOS, as the CD that came with it has three "original" BIOS files: P4C800.rom, P4C800b.rom and P4C800E.rom

I don't know.....

 

[computer]

Hmm, the correct BIOS version should be seen at the top @POST, so I don't know why it would be still stating 1016 if you flashed it back. I guess give it another shot. ? Have you tried contacting the LCD monitor's manufacturer to see if they ever heard of this? Could be an issue with it, or with it and the video card/mobo combo. Since however this problem only surfaced after you messed around with "MyLogo", I think it may be safe to say maybe it's not a hardware issue, but something you may have done. If you can get the BIOS back to the prior version, and put the BIOS back to what it was when you were not having this problem, and it still does it, then that is a strange one.

 

[computer]

Mine says Gold on it too. But I have a P4C800-E Deluxe, and that is also on that label. I don't think the "Gold" (or lack thereof) has any bearing on BIOS file versions.

 

[djanassis]

Thanks. But mineo only states -E Gold and nothing else. Does that still mean that I should be upgrading using the P4C800-E Deluxe BIOS files or the P4C800 BIOS files? So far I have only messed with the P4C800 files...

These are the only options on the ASUS website.

I will give it a go with everything anyway - although I will have a strange feeling of deja-vu...

By the way, I have successfully "updgraded" my ASUS fx 5900 ultra 256 to an fx 5950 ultra 256.... Sweet and painless. Anyone let me know if you want either of the two BIOS files (ASUS 5900ultra and ASUS 5950 ultra that is). This strangely enough resolved an issue with overhearing I had. Before the "update" the card would raise temps up to 73 degrees Celsius on idle position!!!!!!! Now the 5950 overclocked (as much as the Smartdoctor allows you) i.e. Core 490 Memorrey 980, it doesn't go higher than 55-60 degrees.... Strange

 

[computer]

I'm not up on all the variations of this mobo now, but what does the mobo say on it and is that what you ordered? I also don't know if the BIOS versions for the different variations of this mobo are different, but you can find that out at the Asus website where you d'load the BIOS versions. What ever is on the mobo is the BIOS version you should d'load and install. I just checked mine an it only says "P4C800-E" on it, no "Deluxe", so I don't know if there would be a different BIOS version for a non-Deluxe or not. Click your mobo version on this page and then you'll see the "Download" link at left.

 

[djanassis]

That's my very point! The only options given on the website are for the P4C800 and the P4C800-E Deluxe.

Mine's box says P4C800-E Gold........

So which files do you think would be the relevant ones? Have you tried updating yourself?

 

[computer]

Since I have the E-Deluxe, it's not a problem for me since it's obvious which flash to use. Which mobo do you have? You could check out the downloads for each mobo they have listed and see if they differ. I'm sure someone on this thread will chime in on this later on with definitive info. There might be something in the FAQ's on this at the Asus site.

 

[BroadbandGamer]

Hello! Anyone having problems with Corsair XMS memory? Do I need to worry about this?