tamz_msc
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Only in games it seems.SMT that we have to turn off for now?
Only in games it seems.SMT that we have to turn off for now?
In regards to gaming ASUS in particular, and MSI to some extent. It explains why reviewers such as Joker, Crit, UFDiciple, and TechDeals had far better gaming performance.
Golem.de in Germany had this to say in regards to their MSI motherboard.
https://translate.google.co.uk/tran...ndlich-zurueck-1703-125996-4.html&prev=search
But it shows that AMD PR was asleep again just like with the crap cooler on the R9 290X and the QC issues with the Fury X.
If they had been up front about the lack of optimisation with SMT,most reviewers would have had numbers for both scenarios.
Review sites which tested with SMT off,have done AMD a great service TBH!
Thankyou, now if AMD had just delayed 1 week until mobos got this update we could have avoided this mess.In regards to gaming ASUS in particular, and MSI to some extent. It explains why reviewers such as Joker, Crit, UFDiciple, and TechDeals had far better gaming performance.
Golem.de in Germany had this to say in regards to their MSI motherboard.
https://translate.google.co.uk/tran...ndlich-zurueck-1703-125996-4.html&prev=search
It has SMT that's superior in throughput in most cases to Skylake SMT. For some reason however, it kills performance in games specifically.
They are investing heavily in relationship with many game developing studios and it will get much better in the future.Due to optimizations that intel has had many years preparing for. Given AMD's standing with game developers, i'd expect Ryzen optimizations to happen much quicker.
I agree and was really hoping that the reviews would consistently show Ryzen dominating the benchmarks but I have to call it like I see it and I will not make excuses for it.WTF,AMD?
Another Marketing Disaster.
Is this company trying to not sell its own products??
EPIC FAIL.
In regards to gaming ASUS in particular, and MSI to some extent. It explains why reviewers such as Joker, Crit, UFDiciple, and TechDeals had far better gaming performance.
Golem.de in Germany had this to say in regards to their MSI motherboard.
https://translate.google.co.uk/tran...ndlich-zurueck-1703-125996-4.html&prev=search
Thankyou, now if AMD had just delayed 1 week until mobos got this update we could have avoided this mess.
Stupid AMD.
Plus even they said the windows updates would take a few weeks.
I realise AMD needs to have sales,but waiting a month would have made more sense and gained them more sales.
I agree and was really hoping that the reviews would consistently show Ryzen dominating the benchmarks but I have to call it like I see it and I will not make excuses for it.
AMD had to have known, though. AMD should have made it clear that there would be teething problems and that benches would be inconsistent until drivers and BIOSes were mature.This so much. The common denominator is the BIOS in the Asus boards. Even their last minute BIOS is terrible. AMD chose the wrong partner. Asus's BIOS is solely the reason why I stopped buying them.
How is it AMD's fault that Asus can't write a proper BIOS? Gigabyte and Asrock don't show nearly the amount of issues. They all had the same time to integrate the new BIOS code. Asus screwed AMD big time.
www.golem.de said:Compared to the original bios, the new UEFI increases the image rate in our game course between plus 4 and plus 26 percent, on the average even plus 17 percent! In view of this tremendous increase in performance, we had to be certain that our values are correct, and have measured with the Asus boards. This gives us a touch more speed in games than with the updated MSI board.
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amd gave 3 weeks for mobo makers to get the bios sorted, thats not nearly enough time, chances are the bios on all boards will improve in one week.This so much. The common denominator is the BIOS in the Asus boards. Even their last minute BIOS is terrible. AMD chose the wrong partner. Asus's BIOS is solely the reason why I stopped buying them.
How is it AMD's fault that Asus can't write a proper BIOS? Gigabyte and Asrock don't show nearly the amount of issues. They all had the same time to integrate the new BIOS code. Asus screwed AMD big time.
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With all due respect your wasting your time there.It'd be more accurate to say "If you're ONLY a gamer, Ryzen in its current state is not the CPU to buy."
You get 90% of a 7700 for gaming (turn SMT off) and 90% of a 6900 for productivity for <$500. Even if the problems never existed and you never had to turn SMT on/off Ryzen still wouldn't be a recommendation for someone who solely games. Just like the 6900 and any 6+ core Intel chip isn't recommended.
AMD had to have known, though. AMD should have made it clear that there would be teething problems and that benches would be inconsistent until drivers and BIOSes were mature.
Majincry draw call performance looks shocking, i wonder what is causing all this?
With all due respect your wasting your time there.
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