Official AMD Ryzen Benchmarks, Reviews, Prices, and Discussion

[french toast]

Implying Rx480 is technically good. It is well priced (now) in some regions, but otherwise, it is a mediocre product.

Ryzen is not.

It had a rocky launch yes, but it actually outperforms gtx 1060 in newer reviews i read.

 

[cytg111]

Is there any roadmaps or rumors of when/if Zen, Zen+, Zen++ will feature quad channel memory (mainstream, naples dont count) ?

 

[jpiniero]

Is there any roadmaps or rumors of when/if Zen, Zen+, Zen++ will feature quad channel memory (mainstream, naples dont count) ?

I think that's unlikely. Maybe they will do a dual chip product in the future for workstations but presumably that would have to be on a different socket than AM4.

 

[inf64]

Is there any roadmaps or rumors of when/if Zen, Zen+, Zen++ will feature quad channel memory memory (mainstream, naples dont count) ?

If they would like to maintain socket compatibility then at least 1st gen after Zen (Zen+) has to be pin compatible and hence will be dual channel. I doubt we will see 6 core CCX due to that, likely ~10-15% higher IPC and *maybe* full 2x256bit SIMD units with accompanying 2x256bit/1x256bit L/S subsystem.

 

[cytg111]

Ok thanks. (too bad)

 

[inf64]

Ok thanks. (too bad)

Quad channel is an overkill for desktop 8C/16T chips, only a handful of workloads see any measurable;e improvement with QC vs DC setup (winzip and winrar are some, maybe linpack but not sure).

 

[zinfamous]

I think he still harbors some secret resentment over me sleeping with his sister while we were in middle school.

I'm seriously close to violating my no-likes policy right here.

must resist.

 

[Valantar]

If they would sell something like that to me, I would probably buy it. Assuming it had enough heatpipes to work. Hell I would have to buy an entire case around a heatsink like that, but it would be awesome.

How about a Nofan Icepipe CR-100A? Although that's more along the lines of an adult head, I'd say. The CR-95 might be more child-head-like in it's dimensions. Oh, and enough heatpipes? Read the name. It's made out of heatpipes. Tiny, wickless ones, but still heatpipes.

 

[A///]

I'm not sure about the earlier GB reports, but this is on a supposed engineering sample of the 1800X.

http://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/cpu-amd_ryzen_7_1800x-705

 

[lolfail9001]

It would probably be fine if it wasn't for the massive process variation.
Instead of being 50% behind in power efficiency, it would be more like 10%-20% behind as we can see with newer models.

We see 10% behind 1060 in power efficiency? May i see any. In PM, cause OT, ya know.

It had a rocky launch yes, but it actually outperforms gtx 1060 in newer reviews i read.

Nah, simply there were more AMD Gaming Evolved titles after 480's release , otherwise they still align as they did on launch.

Talking about passmark, there is a new Ryzen QS baseline there for what-would-be 1700X. Memory latency is still reported as horrendous, but it extracts like 10% more of it's bandwidth (single channel 2400C16) than Broadwell from quad channel 2133C15.
Outside of physics test that tanks with single channel, and prime numbers that is still half the expected, rest of tests align with earlier leaks and what it should be.

 

[JDG1980]

If they would sell something like that to me, I would probably buy it. Assuming it had enough heatpipes to work. Hell I would have to buy an entire case around a heatsink like that, but it would be awesome.

You can get an entire case that is a heatsink, like the HDPLEX H5 or Streacom DB4. I'm planning the H5 for my next build, because it can do any size board up to full ATX and also passively cool a GPU (up to 95W) with an extra heatpipe attachment. I'm hoping for ECC-supporting Ryzen chips soon (maybe these are the "PRO" models on that leaked chart?). For the GPU I'm planning a Radeon Pro WX 5100, which is the strongest one currently available that fits into the recommended TDP.

 

[french toast]

Nah, simply there were more modern API gaming titles after 480's release , as such they don't align as they did on launch.

There fixed that for you.

 

[lolfail9001]

There fixed that for you.

Modern APIs are supposed to be smarter than apes who use them, neither Dx12 or Vulkan are that. So nah.

 

[Asterox]

The 1600X is the top 6 cores so there would be other 6 cores bellow it. If MT matters, if you OC ,it would likely be better value than the 1400X as you get 2 extra cores for a small premium.

Ryzen R5 1600X/3.6-4ghz, price-performance this is the main gun for shoting on i7 7700K or i7 6800K.

 

[otinane]

AMD perf/$ King once again:

 

[cytg111]

Crazy times .. still need to see those *actual* games though before declaring the king is dead long live the king.

 

[unseenmorbidity]

Implying Rx480 is technically good. It is well priced (now) in some regions, but otherwise, it is a mediocre product.

Ryzen is not.

I got RX 480 4gb for $153, which is pretty amazing given the performance is right on par with last generation's high end GPUs. I have playing new Triple A titles on Very HIgh at 1440p. That doesn't seem mediocre to me.

It's obviously not a 1080, but it never was going to be. It's only a quarter of the price too.

 

[cytg111]

I got RX 480 4gb for $153, which is pretty amazing given the performance is right on par with last generation's high end GPUs. I have playing new Triple A titles on Very HIgh at 1440p. That doesn't seem mediocre to me.

It's obviously not a 1080, but it never was going to be. It's only a quarter of the price too.

Got my daughter a 8GB .. shes playing AAA's on ultra.. she dont need 60fps like her dad thou'..

 

[malitze]

Modern APIs are supposed to be smarter than apes who use them, neither Dx12 or Vulkan are that. So nah.

I don't really get what you mean by that tbh.

 

[lolfail9001]

That doesn't seem mediocre to me.

well priced

It is basically the same amount of functioning transistors as 1070 for way lower performance.

In a way, if both AMD and Intel do not lie about transistor counts, Ryzen is the same story.
In fact, even if they lie, and Intel has twice the transistor amount than what they report (or AMD has half the amount they report), Ryzen is still the same story of more transistors for similar performance.

 

[jpiniero]

Nitpick: The 6850K/6900K/6950X CB 15 ST score should be 164-165... that's what you would get with TBM enabled.

Also I am suspicious that AMD swapped out Blender for Cinebench. TBF I don't think it's a big deal since Blender supports GPUs now.

 

[mikk]

Also I am suspicious that AMD swapped out Blender for Cinebench. TBF I don't think it's a big deal since Blender supports GPUs now.

Cinebench is a meaningful benchmark, even AMD agrees with it. So much for the nonsense theory that it favored Intel.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Nitpick: The 6850K/6900K/6950X CB 15 ST score should be 164-165... that's what you would get with TBM enabled.

Also I am suspicious that AMD swapped out Blender for Cinebench. TBF I don't think it's a big deal since Blender supports GPUs now.

The latest version of Blender supports AVX2 I believe, so probably not exactly the best showcase for Ryzen anymore.

 

[agouraki]

Cinebench is a meaningful benchmark, even AMD agrees with it. So much for the nonsense theory that it favored Intel.

i think instead of cinebench favoring amd it "lucked" out and ryzen favored cinebench...

 

[tamz_msc]

The latest version of Blender supports AVX2 I believe, so probably not exactly the best showcase for Ryzen anymore.

There are options in Blender to run without AVX2 for a more level playing field.