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kevman

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Good luck once again, and keep us updated

well the mobo is here in my room along with the RAM. I decided to hold off on putting it together until I can get my KHX3000 changed for KHX3200. The KHX3200 is actually cheaper them the KHX3000 at Newegg that really shocked me. I'm gonna get that and also I picked up a Copper Retail P4 HSF to use instead of the one that came with my 2.4c.

now I'm itching to pick up some raptors or Seagates instead of using my RAID 0 2x120 8MB cache Maxtors....this small upgrade has quickly become a BIG one....lol.....
 

Ramses

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So, is pretty much everyone shipping the IC7-G with the newer northbridege fan setup now?


Seriously considering buying one of these guy's soon..
 

KillerBob

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Even when compared to the new NB fan setup, you'd still be better of ripping that fan/HSF of and installing a Zalman NB32J. It is easy, it is silent, and it performs better, especially under pressure.
 

kaps

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How easy is it to get the old NB fan off and get the Zalman NB32J attached. I read earlier in this thread that there replacement was anything but easy. Who carries the Zalman NB32J? I can't see it at Newegg or Googlegear.

Thanks,
Karl
 

KillerBob

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It is dead-easy! You take off the flat fan by un-clicking the connectors. Then you have the HSF, and if it does not easily come off by just twisting the HSF, then use some acetone-, or alcohol-dipped cotton Q-tips, and a razor-blade. When the HSF is off, use some thermal cleaner, or more alcohol, get the NB chip clean, and get on with the Zalman.

The Zalman needs a bit of work: nip off three pins in each corner, and file the stubs down so they are flush with the base. DO NOT file any of the base away. Then the ring fits snuggly around the Zalman, and you are ready to attach the HSF.

Use some Artic Silver (a very thin layer) and put the Zalman at any angle you wish on top of the NB, using the ring to hold it onto the NB chip.

30 minutes (if you really clean the NB and polish the Zalman.)

You can even do this without taking off your existing CPU/HSF. I did it with my SLK900 attahced, and that does not leave you much room.

Send me an email at bokr71@hotmail.com, and I will send you back a pic (I don't know how to attach it here.)
 

kaps

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Does anyone have any additional info on whether the IC7-G will support the new Prescott CPU scheduled for release this fall?

I for one would be pretty pissed off if this "most expensive MB ever purchased" was dead-ended before the next gen P4 CPUs!!!

Karl :disgust:
 

Ramses

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From what I read thus far, it will not support prescot.. :( Some voltage issue or another, as usual.

Honestly, if they come up with software that NEEDS more than a 3gig p4 with a gig or ram, SATA RAID, and a 128meg vid card, I'm going to hang it up and go back to NT4 and dual P2's on a BX board with nice old "slow" U2W SCSI...
Progress is great, but sometimes this stuff is insane.
 

kevman

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Originally posted by: Ramses
From what I read thus far, it will not support prescot.. :( Some voltage issue or another, as usual.

Honestly, if they come up with software that NEEDS more than a 3gig p4 with a gig or ram, SATA RAID, and a 128meg vid card, I'm going to hang it up and go back to NT4 and dual P2's on a BX board with nice old "slow" U2W SCSI...
Progress is great, but sometimes this stuff is insane.


"640K ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates in the Early 80's


Think about that one....

:D
 

Ramses

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Originally posted by: kevman
Originally posted by: Ramses
From what I read thus far, it will not support prescot.. :( Some voltage issue or another, as usual.

Honestly, if they come up with software that NEEDS more than a 3gig p4 with a gig or ram, SATA RAID, and a 128meg vid card, I'm going to hang it up and go back to NT4 and dual P2's on a BX board with nice old "slow" U2W SCSI...
Progress is great, but sometimes this stuff is insane.


"640K ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates in the Early 80's


Think about that one....

:D


Yeah, but jeez. Ever sence my first dual P2 with scsi raid and half a gig of ram, speed has not been *that* big an issue for anything other than gameing.. I know, I know, nothing's ever fast enough..

:D



Anyway, a grand later, I have an IC7-G, a p4 2.4c, a gig of Corsiar Twinx3200LL, a pair of Raptors, and a mate to my 200gig WD special edition on the way from Googlegear.

Tenative system specs!

IC7-G
P4/2.4c(at 3gig?)
1gig Corsair 3200LL
ATI AIW 9700 Pro
Audigy2 Platinum ES
SATA RAID with a pair of Raptors for windows and programs
IDE RAID on a pair of 200gig 8meg cache WD's.
All in an Antec Sonota, and hopefully relativly quiet and cool.

And I thought a single cpu non-scsi system would be cheaper than my usual massive boxes, jeez...

 

roystarman

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If the problem with Prescott support is a voltage level, seems to me a BIOS fix will take care of that. Unless they repinned voltages or something like that. Intel has advertised for quite awhile that the Prescott initial releases will use teh 478 socket. So I think it can be made to work. The big question is though will it be any faster? Unless the MOBO implements the enhancements required to optimize the performance of the processor, I don't know? For now I'll stay with my 2.8P4, if the 3.2 becomes very inexpensive once prescott arrives, might jump up to it and get some P4000 ram one of these days and run t like a scalded dog.
 

anomaly

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Originally posted by: roystarman
If the problem with Prescott support is a voltage level, seems to me a BIOS fix will take care of that. Unless they repinned voltages or something like that. Intel has advertised for quite awhile that the Prescott initial releases will use teh 478 socket. So I think it can be made to work. The big question is though will it be any faster? Unless the MOBO implements the enhancements required to optimize the performance of the processor, I don't know? For now I'll stay with my 2.8P4, if the 3.2 becomes very inexpensive once prescott arrives, might jump up to it and get some P4000 ram one of these days and run t like a scalded dog.

Intel has stated that there will be no official support for the INTRODUCTION prescott's by cwood/sdale chipsets.
 

Kongzi

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Well I just ordered a IC7 from newegg along with a 3.0ghz and a gig of Corsair TwinX-3200LL. I hope I won't be disappointed. To save myself some headaches can someone give me some quick guidelines as how to get everything up and running smoothly with this board? Would it be a good idea for me to flash to the newest BIOS right off the bat?
 

sman789

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^^you dun need to...shoulda ordered higher DDR, i wish i had.
one problem i did have when running dual channel memory was vdiim was too low and it would restart.
i bumped it too 2.7 and it was good now 2.8 for OC
 

Kongzi

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I'm not really interesting in overclocking so I just went ahead and went with the 3200 which has lower timings as far as I know. So you think one thing I should do right away is bump the RAM voltage? I did see some stuff on the Abit forums about how you should do that or it could be unstable.
 

roystarman

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Originally posted by: Kongzi
Well I just ordered a IC7 from newegg along with a 3.0ghz and a gig of Corsair TwinX-3200LL. I hope I won't be disappointed. To save myself some headaches can someone give me some quick guidelines as how to get everything up and running smoothly with this board? Would it be a good idea for me to flash to the newest BIOS right off the bat?

I don't know your level of expierence with putting computers together, so this maybe a little basic.

1. Make sure yhat the MOBO is mounted in case properly and securly. Use only the holes referenced in the manual. If you are using an case from an older machine rmake sure there are no standoffs installed that are not used.

2. Try to handle all the componets as little as possible ( they are sensitive to electro static discharge). If you must get up close and personal with everything then a wrist strap you can get at Radio Shack should be used and grounded. An ESD work Pad is also nice but not required. If you handle the cards by the edges and tdo not touch any of the pins or componets you will minimize the potential risk from ESD. DOn't forget the HSF and HEAT SINK Compound on the CPU. Many have taken off the north Bridge fan and small heat sink and replaced the thermal pad with grease and reinstalled all of the above others have used an large aftermarket passive cooler. Unless you plan on OC I wouldn't worry about it. for now.

3. Build a minimal system first 1stick of RAM, VGA card, Hard Drive, one CD drive, if you plan on using SATA make sure you understand the BIOS settings required. Clear the CMOS before powering up. When you turn on power on the PSU you should get a Green LED in the lower corner near the Front Panel Pinout header. When the you start the computer, there should be a red one as well.

4. Once the system loads, enter the BIOS, select auto for speed, adjust the Vdim to 2.7V, and set memory timings to 2,6,3,2. SPD doesn't seem to work right on the IC-7G for now.

5. Go to the onchip periphials and make sure the IC5R is setup to recognize your IDE/SATA installation. If you are going to use the RAID on the ICR5 you need to make sure it is enabled.

6. Be SURE to Save changes and then reboot. enter BIOS again and make sure that the BIOS recognized your HD and CD configuration. Now make sure your other settings are correct, and select the boot order (CD,floppy,HD) is my prefernce. You can do externals drives as well but for now I would stick with basics. Okay once all is done and verified save and relaod again, this time with the windows XP CD installed.

7. If all went well to now the system should want to load XP and possibly reformat HD with NTFS or FAT32. If your hardrdive had previous installations on it, you may need to erase it and do low level initialize. (This might require another computer)

8. ONce windows XP installs, load the drivers in the order, specified in the owners manual.

9. Once all of this is done power down install the rest of your system and periphials. If you are using additional Sound card make sure to disable the on board sound in BIOS. Also there seems to be some funny quirlks with the Audigy sound card. Go to the ABIT-USA page and read the forums area under the MAX Motherboads. I prefer to do things serially for instance memory to max, verify system will run, then additional periphials one at a time to make sure the Windows XP auto install doesn't get confused. Finally or before you do any of this make sure your Modem, NIC, Cable Modem etc... is supported by XP. Most are but you can check at Microsoft web page. The XP install disc also has a neat function that will check these devices. To use it, temporaily install the hardware in a functional machine and then use teh XP configuration check utility to verify that the hardware you want to use is supported.

10. finally once all of this is done then worry about updating the BIOS. Almost any version of BIOS should get you to here, although I heard there were problems with Serial RAID in the 1.3 BIOS. SSo if this is an issue you may wish to go to 1.4 instead. 1.5 is out and seems to be a little faster than 1.4 and somewhat more stable but I nver had any problems with 1.4. Finally stability and burn in testing (level is up to you). I like to make sure MEMTEST can run for at least 8 hours with no errors, PRIME 95 can run at least this long as well. SANDRA Sisoft ahs a neat burn in routine that really excersises the memory and CPU. I run it for at least 20 iterations. Once all of this is done to your level of satisfaction, laod any applications you will use. In my case a few games and Microsoft Office Professional.



 

kaps

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Roy, that is an excellent tutorial for new users. I've been building my own boxes for many years and I picked up a few tips.

Thanks!
Karl
 

vailr

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Don't forget the Intel Chipset Driver. About 2.43 MB , latest version dated 5/29/2003.
 

snidy1

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Originally posted by: KillerBob
Any takers on whether a fan (90mm Pabst) should blow onto, or away from an SLK900? According to ThermalRight, always onto, but some people are saying away from...

Into the CPU
 

kevman

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now that i returned my ram what do you guys think i should get with my ic7 ?

I was thinking of the following in a 2x512 configuration:

Hyper x PC3200
Corsair TwinX-3200LL
Hyper X PC3500


Any opinions on either of those choice specifically witha an IC7 non G

 

KillerBob

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The CorsAir is fast, and when you get the timings right, very stable.

I have two sticks of 512Mb XMS 3500 Platinum, and have only had one problem; I have a duff USB reader which killsmy RAM bandwidth when connected:)
 

kevman

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Originally posted by: KillerBob
The CorsAir is fast, and when you get the timings right, very stable.

I have two sticks of 512Mb XMS 3500 Platinum, and have only had one problem; I have a duff USB reader which killsmy RAM bandwidth when connected:)

how much did that run you? I think I got abotu $300 to spend on RaM.
 

kevman

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Originally posted by: KillerBob
It is dead-easy! You take off the flat fan by un-clicking the connectors. Then you have the HSF, and if it does not easily come off by just twisting the HSF, then use some acetone-, or alcohol-dipped cotton Q-tips, and a razor-blade. When the HSF is off, use some thermal cleaner, or more alcohol, get the NB chip clean, and get on with the Zalman.

The Zalman needs a bit of work: nip off three pins in each corner, and file the stubs down so they are flush with the base. DO NOT file any of the base away. Then the ring fits snuggly around the Zalman, and you are ready to attach the HSF.

Use some Artic Silver (a very thin layer) and put the Zalman at any angle you wish on top of the NB, using the ring to hold it onto the NB chip.

30 minutes (if you really clean the NB and polish the Zalman.)

You can even do this without taking off your existing CPU/HSF. I did it with my SLK900 attahced, and that does not leave you much room.

Send me an email at bokr71@hotmail.com, and I will send you back a pic (I don't know how to attach it here.)

Does the Zalman have a fan? I'm somewhat confused...

 

kei2110

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problemmmmmm!! i downloaded the 14 bios from abits site and tried to flash it... it didnt' work.. extracted to floppy, and clicked "alt+f2" and it didn't work.. booted up from win98 boot disk and tried to flash it from there, didn't work again..

am i doing someting wrong?

thanks