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kevman

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need some help overclocking on this board.

I have a 2.4C and Hyper x pc3500 (2x512)

I have the bios setup as such

FSB = 217
NBS = 800
CPU:RAM 1:1


when it boots it hangs at the verifying DMI

any ideas?

 

roystarman

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Originally posted by: KillerBob
Originally posted by: vfx
I suggest that everyone try to avoid ABIT brand. They care about good reviews only. It took them one month to send me the RMA board and when i received it. The board missed the heatsink retension frame. See how screw up they are. you can read on problems with their boards at their forum.

That's the price to pay for the best MoBo on the scene right now.

Also, if you do replace the HSF/fan with a Zalman for instance, and the MoBo later on needs to be RMAed; just take off the Zalman and reattach the originals. I bet I can make it look as if it was never touched. The only thing, the original thermal gunk, cannot neccessarily be replaced, but you can use something similar, and they will never know!

BTW, try RMAing something to Soyo, to Asus or Epox, and you'll fine just as bad RMA agreements.

THey at least have a board to post. Others do not. That does say a lot about customer sevice. Given that you are rarely going to get someone bothering to write a post that says how great everything went and how it works, the fact ehya have a board where most people either complain or ask for help with problems is pretty magnaminous of them. THe fact they are in BUSINESS and are trying to promote thier product is something you have to live with. BTW go to the SOYO Home page and look for the amount of marketing they put on their Motherboards. As to reviews, there aren't many mainly because there aren't that many of them.

AS for posting reviews it is a good place to go (ABIT Homepage) to get links for good reviews. Try using a search engine and u will find a lot of unrelated stuff. So far I've only heard of one "BAD" review of the IC7-G and it was with an earlier BIOS. I guess I'm biased since I own an ABIT but before this I've never owned a "home built" machine. The ABIT board was easy to install, worked as advertised and is very stable and can overclock easily. I'm not a Speed demon since I've only got my 2.8 P4 clocked up to 3.015 but it is stable as all heck (only time I have to reboot is when the power glitches) and I got my 400MHz memory running at 430 so this is good enough for me. I was relatively ignorant of MOBO and had Brand no preference. I chose teh ABIT based on the board options and the ease to OC as well as thier reputation for stability.
 

kevman

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has anyonw been able to install a non-raid version of Intel Application Accelerater?

My IDE HD performance ain't too good on this puppy.
 

KillerBob

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I had a reply from Abit regarding replacing the NB fan: "Please see attachment, I have not receive any so call "new fan", but I do have the same type of spare fan. Please see attachment."

The attachment: "If you need a fan (on either mainboard Northbridge chipset or Siluro display card). Please send an A5 size SAE (jiffy bag is preferred for protection) to the address below. Also please provide the serial number of the product and details of the fan as sometimes there are more than one type of fan. The best way to do is unscrew the screws and write down the details on the back of the fan."

I think they are just going to send me back one of them identical shite NB fans, and that's just no good. I want them to send me one of the newer ones!

I have replaced the NB fan/HSF with a Zalman passive NB32J, but I don't want Abit to get away with just shuffling me around.

I'll let you all know what happens next...
 

thatsright

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Uhhh, maybe this is old news or not, but does everyone know that for about a week now the NEW ABIT IC7/IS7 NorthBridge Heatsink/Fan combo can be bought online.

Besides the glaring omission of a integrated NIC for my IC7, this whole Craptastic NB fan is the most disappointing thing about this board. Actually today I bought the Zalman NB Heatsink, so that will be an interesting project when I install that in a few days. Actually, I don't believe my current 'older style' NB fan is defective or has a problem, its just the loudest thing in the case even with the FanEQ on at 60%

But I?m kinda worried that with my Overclocked 2.4c, that the passive cooling of the Zalman may make my system unstable in it's current state? BOTOH, my Vcore is at it's default of 1.525 (wit the board usually undervolting it to 1.488Vcore). The only thing I'm running outta spec is my 512MB X2 HyperX PC3500 @ 2.8Vdimm to get it to run at 2-2-2-5 timings with this OC. I don't really have that much of a O'C by the way, at 3060Mhz, and my CPU temps might be about 2-4 C over what they would be at stock speed; of course it helps that I'm running Vcore at default.
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ONE LAST THING: I called ABIT USA Tech support today, to see if I could finagled a new NB HSF combo out of them. They were like 'Nice try pal.' Told me to go to the above site, and order there. I asked if I bought this new NB HSF unit and PERSONALLY replaced my older one on my IC7, would it void my warranty? He said, 'as long as its a ABIT Part' that would not be the case. This seems contrary to what I hear, where they want you to RMA your whole board and let a ABIT Tech do it. Who knows?? Yet if you?re a European customer, all you have to do is ask ABIT Europe support and they will send you the new HSF for free. I don?t understand why the North American customers get the shaft??

AND: I asked if the IC7 would support the new Prescott CPU coming out in the Fall. He said they weren?t sure. "There are many things that are still to be determined with the new CPU core, and how it will interface with the IC7 motherboard/socket" he said. So DON'T count on it. It will be a nice surprise if it is supported however.

Alright, I'm done venting for the week
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Kongzi

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Well I'm not too worried about spending 5 bucks and buying the new HSF but I would like to know if I could RMA my board and get one that has the sound corrected on it. And if they ever get a new revision, do you think I'd be able to get a replacement of that then?
 

kei2110

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Originally posted by: kevman
need some help overclocking on this board.

I have a 2.4C and Hyper x pc3500 (2x512)

I have the bios setup as such

FSB = 217
NBS = 800
CPU:RAM 1:1


when it boots it hangs at the verifying DMI

any ideas?

try upping the voltage?

i am able to run it at that speed, but memtest86 always fails at test #5... why is that?
memory is running at 2-3-3-7... which is what is recommended :(

can someone help?

thanks

 

thatsright

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Originally posted by: kei2110
Originally posted by: kevman
need some help overclocking on this board.

I have a 2.4C and Hyper x pc3500 (2x512)

I have the bios setup as such

FSB = 217
NBS = 800
CPU:RAM 1:1


when it boots it hangs at the verifying DMI

any ideas?

try upping the voltage?

i am able to run it at that speed, but memtest86 always fails at test #5... why is that?
memory is running at 2-3-3-7... which is what is recommended :(

can someone help?

thanks



kei2110

I used to have the exact same issue with my HyperX PC3500 512MB second DIMM. This ain't good Kei. It means one or both (yikes!) of your HyperX DIMM's are defective and should be replaced immediatley. Either return them to your original point of purchase or, like i did since they have a cross-ship option, Kingston directly. I ran Memtest-86 just for the hell of it about 7 days after I got my rig up and running and would always get an error on Test #4. So after a few hours of moving both DIMM's arround in the 4 slots, and then just testing one at a time in all the slots, I narrowed it down to my second DIMM. It was pretty SCHWEET that Kingston overnighted me a NEW, replacement DIMM to me and they paid for the shipping.

Okay..............

Maybe I'm bragging a bit, but now I have both Dimm's going at 2-2-2-5 but to do this I have to have Vdimm @ 2.8 and all of the GAT settings at AUTO. Try it out.

Good luck on replacing that DIMM.
 

Ketchup

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What timings are you running? I second that upping the memory voltage is a must with all high-performance memories.
 

kevman

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Originally posted by: thatsright
Originally posted by: kei2110
Originally posted by: kevman
need some help overclocking on this board.

I have a 2.4C and Hyper x pc3500 (2x512)

I have the bios setup as such

FSB = 217
NBS = 800
CPU:RAM 1:1


when it boots it hangs at the verifying DMI

any ideas?

try upping the voltage?

i am able to run it at that speed, but memtest86 always fails at test #5... why is that?
memory is running at 2-3-3-7... which is what is recommended :(

can someone help?

thanks



kei2110

I used to have the exact same issue with my HyperX PC3500 512MB second DIMM. This ain't good Kei. It means one or both (yikes!) of your HyperX DIMM's are defective and should be replaced immediatley. Either return them to your original point of purchase or, like i did since they have a cross-ship option, Kingston directly. I ran Memtest-86 just for the hell of it about 7 days after I got my rig up and running and would always get an error on Test #4. So after a few hours of moving both DIMM's arround in the 4 slots, and then just testing one at a time in all the slots, I narrowed it down to my second DIMM. It was pretty SCHWEET that Kingston overnighted me a NEW, replacement DIMM to me and they paid for the shipping.

Okay..............

Maybe I'm bragging a bit, but now I have both Dimm's going at 2-2-2-5 but to do this I have to have Vdimm @ 2.8 and all of the GAT settings at AUTO. Try it out.

Good luck on replacing that DIMM.

thatsright,

I got your PM, and sent one back to you.

did you try disabling the last two settings under GAT? they are Compand per cycle and smoething else, it's in this thread, I beleive Blargh did that and it help his issue whcih I think was along similar lines.

KEvin

 

kei2110

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the funny thing about that is, i HAD it running at 2-2-2-5 before...!! it worked perfectly! but then i had memtest errors.. and i brung it back down. but now i can't even run it at that :/ man, gah.. i'll try to see which one is giving me errrors..

btw

also when i bring the fsb up to 217.. my sound cuts on and off.. does anyone else have this goign on? :(

i sent you a pm thatsright

thanks
 

orion7144

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I have been using the IS7 and picked up the IC7-g. With my OCZ Gold I am able to run @ 250 2.5-3-3-7 1:1.

It has been probably asked but 1000 messages is alot to go through.

Can I use two SATA drives raid 0 and use 2 converters to run 2 PATA drives off of SATA3&4 as raid 1? I would like to use the IDE drives as a backup and data storage.


Thanks
 

kevman

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got my machine up and running here are the specs



IC7 Bios 15
P4 2.4c @ 250 FSB (3.0GHz)
Vdimm = 2.6
Vcore = 1.6
2x512 Hyper X PC3500 2-3-3-7
CPU:DDR 5:4 = 200 = DDR400
GA Settings Auto w/ last two disabled
AIW 9700 Pro @ default speeds
ATA100 40 Gig Maxtor Drive

my 3dmark 2001 score: 17008
3d Mark 2003 score: 5300 ( I don't remember exaclty if it was 5300 or 5500)

Any ideas on how to get more juice out of this puppy? I haven't gotten any more aggressive with this just yet, I figured this etup should have scored better 3d marks though...

I haven't run any prime95 test for more then a few minutes at a time, should I just let it run for a few hours?

 

Slogun

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Hi,

Just got my new IC7-G board yesterday and am very happy with it so far.

One question at this point. I have flashed to the latest 1.5 BIOS.
I do not have any SATA enabled in the BIOS, am just currently running two IDE drives.

On every boot up the system pauses for about 5 seconds with a message saying smoething like this:
"Sil 3112A SATA raid BIOS 4.2.12
searching for RAID drives
no drives found"

Is everybody getting that on each boot with the newest BIOS, or do I have a setting wrong somewhere?
It sure looks like SATA is enabled somewhere, but I can't find it.

thx

While I am at it, let me ask another question....

Correct me if I am wrong, I am assuming it is possible to run one IDE hard drive on SATA using the supplied SATA/IDE converter while running a second hard drive just as an IDE device.

thx again for any info.

 

Ramses

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There's two SATA's, the Silicone Image, which is an indapendent add on chip running via the pci buss, and then there's the SATA RAID built into the ICH5R Southbridge. You can disable the Southbirdge(OnChip), but with the new bios, I seem to have lost the setting to disable the Silicone Image SATA for some silly reason. The setting is just plain gone. Slows boot time, kinda anoying.

It's not just you though.. :)
 

THUGSROOK

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Originally posted by: ketchup79
What timings are you running? I second that upping the memory voltage is a must with all high-performance memories.
i only need 2.5v vdimm ;)

(nbs800, street racer, 2226, nothing disabled)
 

Please forgive me if im wrong cause its late here, but my agp/pci will not lock at 66/33Mhz..... Am i missing something?
I have the IC7 and i can overclock to 3+ gighz but my video card crashes because the agp/pci is around 70/37 (or something close to that). Any help would be appreciated!
-MAtt
 

THUGSROOK

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Originally posted by: Phocas
Please forgive me if im wrong cause its late here, but my agp/pci will not lock at 66/33Mhz..... Am i missing something?
I have the IC7 and i can overclock to 3+ gighz but my video card crashes because the agp/pci is around 70/37 (or something close to that). Any help would be appreciated!
-MAtt

raise vagp to 1.65v.
 

kevman

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I'm having a pretty bad problem with my system, maybe someone could help.

prime95 blue screens and crashes XP Pro SP1 after running for about two hours. It looks like the event viewers posts a bugcheck messages:

The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x0000009c ....

memtest96 ran fine for 12 full passes and then crashed.

Now I'm ready to panic.....HELP!!


 

Kongzi

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Have you tried bumping your RAM voltage above default? While my RAM (Corsair TwinX-1024 3200LL) ran okay at stock speeds on default settings I couldn't turn on any PAT features or lower timings at all. Then I bumped my RAM voltage up a bit and I could start squeezing more juice out of it. Currently I'm running at 2.8v :). If that doesn't work then maybe you have defective RAM :\
 

kevman

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Originally posted by: Kongzi
Have you tried bumping your RAM voltage above default? While my RAM (Corsair TwinX-1024 3200LL) ran okay at stock speeds on default settings I couldn't turn on any PAT features or lower timings at all. Then I bumped my RAM voltage up a bit and I could start squeezing more juice out of it. Currently I'm running at 2.8v :). If that doesn't work then maybe you have defective RAM :\

trying it right now....we'lll see...
 

Ketchup

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Originally posted by: kevman
I'm having a pretty bad problem with my system, maybe someone could help.

prime95 blue screens and crashes XP Pro SP1 after running for about two hours. It looks like the event viewers posts a bugcheck messages:

The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x0000009c ....

memtest96 ran fine for 12 full passes and then crashed.

Now I'm ready to panic.....HELP!!

Hmm, I don't think instability with an overclocked computer is cause for panic. Up the memory voltage, relax the timings, turn off GAT, and if none of that helps, you may have to....GASP.....run at default settings! :)
 

kevman

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Originally posted by: ketchup79
Originally posted by: kevman
I'm having a pretty bad problem with my system, maybe someone could help.

prime95 blue screens and crashes XP Pro SP1 after running for about two hours. It looks like the event viewers posts a bugcheck messages:

The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x0000009c ....

memtest96 ran fine for 12 full passes and then crashed.

Now I'm ready to panic.....HELP!!

Hmm, I don't think instability with an overclocked computer is cause for panic. Up the memory voltage, relax the timings, turn off GAT, and if none of that helps, you may have to....GASP.....run at default settings! :)


this is what I had so far
it ws having this problems with GAT at all auto and timings at stock for RAM@ 7-3-3-2

rebooted put back in fail-safew setting s and then change the fsb to 250 bumped up vdimm to 2.8 and kept voltage at default.

That cuased the same problem.

so I'm gonna go back to all stock speeds and run some tests again....
 

kevman

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Originally posted by: kevman
Originally posted by: ketchup79
Originally posted by: kevman
I'm having a pretty bad problem with my system, maybe someone could help.

prime95 blue screens and crashes XP Pro SP1 after running for about two hours. It looks like the event viewers posts a bugcheck messages:

The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x0000009c ....

memtest96 ran fine for 12 full passes and then crashed.

Now I'm ready to panic.....HELP!!

Hmm, I don't think instability with an overclocked computer is cause for panic. Up the memory voltage, relax the timings, turn off GAT, and if none of that helps, you may have to....GASP.....run at default settings! :)


this is what I had so far
it ws having this problems with GAT at all auto and timings at stock for RAM@ 7-3-3-2

rebooted put back in fail-safew setting s and then change the fsb to 250 bumped up vdimm to 2.8 and kept voltage at default.

That cuased the same problem.

so I'm gonna go back to all stock speeds and run some tests again....

ran memtest will all tests enabled for 4 passes, everythign ran sucessfully. running prime tommorow.