*** Official ABIT IC7/G (875P) Thread ***

[KillerBob]

JB,

Mine is indeed an OEM CPU (from Scan in the UK). However, I think it is related more to the RAM.

 

[Vonkhan]

P4 2.8b
IC7 (Bios 1.3)
512mb HyperX pc3500 2-3-2-5 default voltage
Visiontek 9800Pro not oc-ed
WD 40GB
2 Optical drives & LAN card

only 5543 3dmark03 (latest version) ??????


update:

P4 2.8 @ 3.257 default voltage w/ zalman cooler
fsb 155
agp fixed
psb533

5688 3dmark03

update2:

prime95 @ test 15, cpu temp @ 57.5 C

 

[roystarman]

Thug said that IC7 is 15 degrees warm

According to the ABIT webpage, ABIT is measuring inside the CPU, a thermal diode. It ia not a thermistor tpaed or otherwise attached to the case as in some MOBOs. They claim it is accurate and that the INTEL limit for this measurement is well over 100 degrees C. There claim is hard to prove since most follks here have used the metal case as their source for measuring temepratures which will be a lot cooler than the gate inside it. As long as your board is stable I wouldn't worry inless you start approaching the limits in BIOS. INTEL has a shutdown function on the CPU to keep it from getting too hot, although exercising this reguarly is probably not good for the CPU.
So the temeprture comparison is Apple to oranges according to ABIT.

 

[Ketchup]

Originally posted by: roystarman

Thug said that IC7 is 15 degrees warm

According to the ABIT webpage, ABIT is measuring inside the CPU, a thermal diode. It ia not a thermistor tpaed or otherwise attached to the case as in some MOBOs. They claim it is accurate and that the INTEL limit for this measurement is well over 100 degrees C. There claim is hard to prove since most follks here have used the metal case as their source for measuring temepratures which will be a lot cooler than the gate inside it. As long as your board is stable I wouldn't worry inless you start approaching the limits in BIOS. INTEL has a shutdown function on the CPU to keep it from getting too hot, although exercising this reguarly is probably not good for the CPU.
So the temeprture comparison is Apple to oranges according to ABIT.

All modern motherboards use the thermal diode. For some reason, Abit's method of calculating has always been off. It seems to be around 8 degrees on my IT7.

 

[JonnyBlaze]

Originally posted by: KillerBob
JB,

Mine is indeed an OEM CPU (from Scan in the UK). However, I think it is related more to the RAM.

the ram should be able to handle it. mine is only running at 184mhz (5:4) and its the xms 3500. i can run it 1:1 at 220mhz.

i think i might go back to the 13 bios and see what happens. didnt try too much over clocking with that bios.

Matt

 

[Vonkhan]

Can anyone suggest any tweaks that might help my system?

P4 2.8GHz @ 3.3GHz (533mhz)
IC7 (Bios 1.3 ... will update to 1.4)

512mb HyperX pc3500 2-3-2-5 default voltage

fsb: 157mhz
psb533
DDR ratio 4:5 (CPU : DRAM)
Fixed AGP

Got 5710 witha non OCed 9800Pro

Thanks!

 

[roystarman]

Originally posted by: ketchup79

Originally posted by: roystarman

Thug said that IC7 is 15 degrees warm

According to the ABIT webpage, ABIT is measuring inside the CPU, a thermal diode. It ia not a thermistor tpaed or otherwise attached to the case as in some MOBOs. They claim it is accurate and that the INTEL limit for this measurement is well over 100 degrees C. There claim is hard to prove since most follks here have used the metal case as their source for measuring temepratures which will be a lot cooler than the gate inside it. As long as your board is stable I wouldn't worry inless you start approaching the limits in BIOS. INTEL has a shutdown function on the CPU to keep it from getting too hot, although exercising this reguarly is probably not good for the CPU.
So the temeprture comparison is Apple to oranges according to ABIT.

All modern motherboards use the thermal diode. For some reason, Abit's method of calculating has always been off. It seems to be around 8 degrees on my IT7.

Just passing on what the ABIT board said. They claim that the equation/algorithm supplied is from the vendor and is correct so if others are reading the same junction and coming up with a different number then perhaps something may need correcting. However isn't it the WINBOND chip that does the calculation and not the BIOS? BIOS simply reads it and displays it or the Winbond monitor does the same? So I guess even it was inocrrect the blame would be the winbond chip.

dwb122,
sorry you couldn't get the OC to work. I know you gave it a lot of effort. I don't know if 1.4 BIOS will help but it will give you the neat game accelerator modes but other than that I don't know. 1.5 is out and it looks like they didn't do much so I'm wondering if I'll install it anytime soon.

 

[KillerBob]

Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze


the ram should be able to handle it. mine is only running at 184mhz (5:4) and its the xms 3500. i can run it 1:1 at 220mhz.

i think i might go back to the 13 bios and see what happens. didnt try too much over clocking with that bios.

Matt

I talked to a tech friend of mine, and he explained that Corsair RAM, unless it is TwinX, can have problems with the asynchronous communication between the CPU and RAM. As we are trying to set the CPU:RAM at 5:4, it means the RAM waits out 1 cycle every 5. I can?t explain the technical details, but that?s the just of it.

However, I don?t understand why some people are perfectly able to OC even more. Perhaps eventually it comes down to our CPUs being OEM?

 

[KillerBob]

Back to the NB fan issue:

I can't easily send the MoBo back. Scan (in the UK) have extremely poor RMA service, and will not forward me a replacement MoBo until they have tested the original one (~10 days). So, I am looking for a non-intrusive way of fixing my NB fan problem. Suggestions range from 1) replacing the fans with a Zalman heatsink (cutting the corners off), 2) replacing the fan with a Pabst 40mm, to 3) giving the existing fan some mineral oil.

Any suggestions?

 

[joeryu]

Looks like the final 1.5 bios is out, get it at abit's site.

IC7 / IC7-G Bios

List of changes/fixes:

BIOS ID: 1.5, Released Date: 6/23/2003

-Shows the correct IRQ of IDE Controller in PCI Devices Listing.
-Fixes CPU Thermal Throttling behavior while under minus temperature and supports minus temperature reading in BIOS Setup.
-Fixes the problem that system could not automatically get into S4 mode after enabled Power Scheme of "Power Option" under Windows XP
-Fixes wrong system operation caused by incomplete discharging CMOS data by CCMOS jumper.

 

[mikeetw]

ABIT IC7-G:

Problem: SATA WD Rapters and Widows XP, I wanted to have a clean install of windows using Raid 0, but windows would not recognize the RAID Array. I could install Windows 2000 with boot disk and installing the RAID driver, but still windows does not see the RAID configuration. I did not let this beat me up to bad, but after several hours and many changes in CMOS I threw in the towel and configured a ATA 100 IDE hard drive and installed Windows XP. After windows was up I enabled the RAID Array. Then not to be beaten I mirrored the ATA 100 IDE hard drive with the SATA RAID drives and removed the ATA 100 IDE. Everything booted up nicely and works. Why couldn't I install windows with the SATA Raid Array to start with?

 

[Vonkhan]

any experiences with Bios 1.5 yet?

prime95 @ test 9 now...

 

[SuperWorm]

:disgust:I have a slight problem if anybody has a suggestion.

I threw my system together and it posted the first time I turned it on. My 2.6C was correctly identified and I went into the Bios(1.0) and tried setting up the Raid function. After saving the new settings, the Bios restarted and froze very quickly after incorrectly showing I had a 13x100 Mhz processor. After resetting the CMOS (many times...even removed battery & power) I can no longer even post. The board turns on but no video or beeps. Have tried disconnecting everything and restarting with different combinations. NOTHING! So I took out my 2.4B from my other system, threw it in, and everything posts fine. Installed XP Pro w/RAID. Perfect. Run tests. Stable. So then I took the 2.6C and put it into my cheap ECS mobo and it posts and runs XP perfect. The ECS mobo shows it as a 1.73 (13x133Mhz) which is all this mobo can do. I run the Intel ID/stepping program and it show the processor as a 2.6C with HT and of course tells me I am running it at 533 fsb (expected). But as soon as I try to put the 2.6C back into the IC7-G MaxII it wont even post (I even tried clearing the CMOS again). But it will work in the ECS mobo @ 13x133Mhz and my 2.4B works just fine in the IC7-G. What the Hell??

I have flashed to Bios 1.3 and now 1.4 No help. Is the problem my Mobo or the Processor????

Thanks for any insight.


2.6C w/ Vantec Aeroflow
Antec TrueBlue 480
IC7-G Rev 1.0 Bios 1.4
2x512 MB Corsair XMS3200
ATI 9700 Pro
2xRaptor Raid 0
SB Live
Sony 48x CDRW

 

[dwb122]

Flashed the 1.5 bios. Didn't help my overclocking situation, but I didn't really expect it to. Still can't overclock one damn mhz without it not being able to detect my hard drive. Don't know what in the hell that's about.


Speaking of the 1.5 bios, I was using the Windows Flashmenu utility to flash the new bios... when it got about 40% of the way through the 'programming bios' (or whatever) phase, the bottom-left quarter of the window turned white and the utility froze for about 30 seconds or so. I was freaked out of my ****ing mind. Then suddenly it was at 100% and the bios was "successfully flashed". My god was that scary....

 

[Ketchup]

Originally posted by: SuperWorm
:disgust:I have a slight problem if anybody has a suggestion.

I threw my system together and it posted the first time I turned it on. My 2.6C was correctly identified and I went into the Bios(1.0) and tried setting up the Raid function. After saving the new settings, the Bios restarted and froze very quickly after incorrectly showing I had a 13x100 Mhz processor. After resetting the CMOS (many times...even removed battery & power) I can no longer even post. The board turns on but no video or beeps. Have tried disconnecting everything and restarting with different combinations. NOTHING! So I took out my 2.4B from my other system, threw it in, and everything posts fine. Installed XP Pro w/RAID. Perfect. Run tests. Stable. So then I took the 2.6C and put it into my cheap ECS mobo and it posts and runs XP perfect. The ECS mobo shows it as a 1.73 (13x133Mhz) which is all this mobo can do. I run the Intel ID/stepping program and it show the processor as a 2.6C with HT and of course tells me I am running it at 533 fsb (expected). But as soon as I try to put the 2.6C back into the IC7-G MaxII it wont even post (I even tried clearing the CMOS again). But it will work in the ECS mobo @ 13x133Mhz and my 2.4B works just fine in the IC7-G. What the Hell??

I have flashed to Bios 1.3 and now 1.4 No help. Is the problem my Mobo or the Processor????

Thanks for any insight.


2.6C w/ Vantec Aeroflow
Antec TrueBlue 480
IC7-G Rev 1.0 Bios 1.4
2x512 MB Corsair XMS3200
ATI 9700 Pro
2xRaptor Raid 0
SB Live
Sony 48x CDRW

I had a similar experience last year with a 1.8A and Epox 4G4A+. The chip was a gem for about a week, and then, all of a sudden, nothing. I tried everything I could think of, but could not get the board to post. I returned the chip, and Googlegear said it worked fine, and even sent me a screenshot. I took it back, and same thing, no boot. So I exchanged the 1.8A for a 2.4B, which I still have, and never had a problem since. So I guess the problem is with the processor, but I couldn't say for certain.

 

[SuperWorm]

It's weird that I can get the mobo to post with a different chip, and the chip to work in another mobo (but at slower speed.....hmmmm) but not together!! I hate to spend time (and cost) to return it and not get credit.

 

[5150Joker]

Bios 1.5 actually made my overclock to 290 fsb on default vcore unstable. Once I switched back to 1.4 everything was fine again so I'll be sticking to 1.4 for now.

 

[rhawk79]

i have a question for all you IC7/IC7-G users...

I currently have the P4P800 Deluxe which has a bios option to enable PAT, but I can only use it when I'm at a 1:1 memory ratio and 200fsb. That means PAT cannot be enabled on my board if I overclock, or set the memory ratio to 5:4 or 3:2.

Does this happen on the IC7? Can canterwood boards run PAT when overclocked or at other ratios besides 1:1???

If any of you could use CPU-Z to test this out for me it'd be much appreciated...you need the latest version, 1.18c in order to detect if PAT is enabled. You can download it from here...Then look on the memory tab for PAT.

Thanks!!!

 

[acemcmac]

Has anyone who had issues with the bios forgetting the hard disk boot priority under 1.4 had those issues resolved under 1.5?

the issue is simple

on some boots- mostly cold ones- the bios forgets the boot priority causing the system to scan a secondary hard drive and search for a CD to boot from while ignoring the primary IDE drive where the boot partition is located...

 

[vailr]

rhawk79:

Running IC7 bios 1.5, memory at 5:4 ratio, P4 2.4c GHz, 260 MHz FSB, 3121 MHz.
CPU-Z 118c does show "Performance mode: enabled".

 

[Intelligence3]

acemcmac - I haven;t had that happen since BIOS 1.0. Admittedly my machine is usually running, but I do cold boot from time to time. How often do you see it?

 

[rhawk79]

Originally posted by: vailr
rhawk79:

Running IC7 bios 1.5, memory at 5:4 ratio, P4 2.4c GHz, 260 MHz FSB, 3121 MHz.
CPU-Z 118c does show "Performance mode: enabled".

thanks!!

now can anyone tell me if PAT is enabled when overclocket at 1:1???

 

[Sabreguy]

I've just been getting BSODs in XP pro, under 14 and 15, it says something like..

DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (something close to that.)

anyone know what that means?

 

[KillerBob]

Sabreguy,

That's usually a new software or hardware install with some drivers causing you problems. Have you installed anything lately, with .DLLs that you can uninstall and see if that solves the issue? I have many such problems, and sometimes they even go away by themselves, either when upgrading drivers, or reinstalling software. The worst drivers IMO are videodrivers. ATi spend 5 releases before theirs got relatively stable, and NVidia never have (IMO).

Try that, also use custom boot and disable some of the programs starting with WinXP. Check you system properties, maybe you have any conflicts, and finally, do you have any non-WinXP drivers installed?

 

[KillerBob]

Originally posted by: rhawk79
now can anyone tell me if PAT is enabled when overclocket at 1:1???

Yep, I am running FSB: 220, DRAM Ratio: 1:1, and the Performance Mode in CPUz 1.18c is Enabled.