*** Official ABIT IC7/G (875P) Thread ***

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: dwb122
Well this is incredibly disappointing. I've tried everything it seems, with the RAM timings, ratios, various FSB settings, even slight voltage adjustments, and I just can't get the computer to boot. Is my 2.4C just an overclocking dud or what?

Unplug all your HD's and try using an IDE drive if you have one and then install XP on it. If everything works fine then you're probably doing something wrong w/the SATA drives. Also, if you have bus mastering enabled in the bios, turn it off.

 

[THUGSROOK]

lots of good IC7 info in this thread here by yours truely

 

[Blargh]

What would you reccomend for memory for the IC7-g thugs? Cant get my Corsair twinx3200 (2 256mb sticks running dual ddr) to run stably no matter what voltage and timings i set it to. Looks like ill have to send them back and look for something else. Have any suggestions?

 

[Intelligence3]

Yeh im trying exactly that right now.... heh running at 3,8,4,4 with 2.8v....

My machine won't even boot with those settings. Just a long steady beep and I have to clear the cmos using the jumper to get it to boot again. Yikes!!

 

[Intelligence3]

Originally posted by: Blargh
Well ****... Failed memory test 4 .. as always. but this time on pass 9. At freakin 2.8v 3,8,4,4, timings.. man wtf. *sigh* looks like im going to have to replace both sticks then... man this freaking blows. All this time and money and what do i have? A god damned paper weight.

As someone else said on the abit forums.... words cannot express how disgusted i am right now.

Two things. One, I don't think it's the RAM, I think it's the board. I am getting the same problem except on test 5, only happens when using both sticks.

Two, the memtest86 failure in my case doesn't seem to be causing me any trouble even with heavy usage. I run 2 instances of SETI at all times, and I play a lot of Planetside turned all the way up, and I never get RAM related crashes. Now my ATI card crashes the machine occasionally (at least if I'm reading the log right), but never the RAM.

 

[THUGSROOK]

Originally posted by: Blargh
What would you reccomend for memory for the IC7-g thugs? Cant get my Corsair twinx3200 (2 256mb sticks running dual ddr) to run stably no matter what voltage and timings i set it to. Looks like ill have to send them back and look for something else. Have any suggestions?

im only running a 182fsb and only tested with HyperX 3000 so far.
other ppl in that forum are using IC7/XMS3200 w/o problems.
they arent the best OCing ram, but they do run well.

most probs on the IC7 have to do with bios tweaking.
if anyones having problems understanding the Gaming Accelerator or the NorthBridge Strap ~ you should read my thread thats linked a few posts up.

HTH

 

[roystarman]

Originally posted by: dwb122
Well this is incredibly disappointing. I've tried everything it seems, with the RAM timings, ratios, various FSB settings, even slight voltage adjustments, and I just can't get the computer to boot. Is my 2.4C just an overclocking dud or what?

It might be a dud, but I still think it is something in BIOS not setup correctly. I am by no means an expert in Over Clocking. However remeber Intel only guarantees opertion at 2.4c so trying to return it because it won't OC is probably not going to work. How much are you trying to Overclock? I would suggest smaller Overclocks at first for instance 205 to 210 MHz first. THen increment up slowly form there and record settings. If it fails, you can go back to old ones. Modify memory timings by chaning one of the seettings, I went to 2.5 at first then bumped each one up one My orignial settings were 2,6,2,2. I think for now you would want to make sure you are in 1:1 ratio and that you have the FSB800 selected in the BIOS for the NB strap. MAke sure the BIOS is reading your Chip ID correctly. Also I would lock the AGP/PCI frequency by selecting fixed. As for IDE I don't know if you should do anything in that setup. I'm using SATA and don't seem to have to many problems with it recognizing it.

It took me most of 2 afternoons and countless reboots and several CMOS resets to get to where I'm at now. I got several instances of where the XP system would partially load and it would want you to load the XP CD and select repair. never did this and just kept trying to get it to work. My memory timings might be a little loose but it works well with them so I'm leaving them as is.

Since this is to be my only machine I do not like to load BETA BIOS, I know the risk is low but I'll wait for those more informed and endowed with computer systems to try them out. Once it is released I normally download it and read what it corrects. If it looks rather benign or fixes something I really need then I'll upgrade it. So far I've updated to 1.4, the reviews on 1.5 on the web are that it is a little faster but doesn't seem to do much else.

I'm staying pat with my present oc'ed configuration since I've now completely contaminated my system by loading Office XP on it and transferred several hundred meg of files from my old machine to this one. I would hate to have to foramt dirve, reload XP and start over again.

 

[etrin]

Joker I am trying your recomendations on the oc and had one more question
What voltage are you running on cpu and mem ?

What do people consider max without pushing the parts?

I got my 2.6 with 3500 mem to 245 fsb 3:2, kept the mem timings
at 2-5-2-2. Everything else in bios is stock and not sata just ide.
240 is stable with no problems.

strap at auto

has anyone compared 1:1 5:4 and 3:2 to see where the preformance
overlap is with these?
1:1 stock = 5:4 at 220 = 3:2 at 250....that type of thing

thanks again for your help
Etrin

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: etrin
Joker I am trying your recomendations on the oc and had one more question
What voltage are you running on cpu and mem ?

What do people consider max without pushing the parts?

I got my 2.6 with 3500 mem to 245 fsb 3:2, kept the mem timings
at 2-5-2-2. Everything else in bios is stock and not sata just ide.
240 is stable with no problems.

strap at auto

has anyone compared 1:1 5:4 and 3:2 to see where the preformance
overlap is with these?
1:1 stock = 5:4 at 220 = 3:2 at 250....that type of thing

thanks again for your help
Etrin

CPU is run at stock voltage up to 290 fsb (stable) and the memory is adjusted depending on fsb. Anything above 250 I push the vdimm to 2.8 otherwise it stays 2.7 most of the time with 2633.

 

[dwb122]

Originally posted by: roystarman

Originally posted by: dwb122
Well this is incredibly disappointing. I've tried everything it seems, with the RAM timings, ratios, various FSB settings, even slight voltage adjustments, and I just can't get the computer to boot. Is my 2.4C just an overclocking dud or what?

It might be a dud, but I still think it is something in BIOS not setup correctly. I am by no means an expert in Over Clocking. However remeber Intel only guarantees opertion at 2.4c so trying to return it because it won't OC is probably not going to work. How much are you trying to Overclock? I would suggest smaller Overclocks at first for instance 205 to 210 MHz first. THen increment up slowly form there and record settings. If it fails, you can go back to old ones. Modify memory timings by chaning one of the seettings, I went to 2.5 at first then bumped each one up one My orignial settings were 2,6,2,2. I think for now you would want to make sure you are in 1:1 ratio and that you have the FSB800 selected in the BIOS for the NB strap. MAke sure the BIOS is reading your Chip ID correctly. Also I would lock the AGP/PCI frequency by selecting fixed. As for IDE I don't know if you should do anything in that setup. I'm using SATA and don't seem to have to many problems with it recognizing it.

Well I tried all of that, and I keep getting disk errors on bootup. Even when upping the FSB only 1mhz, as well as 5 and 10. I'll try a few other things, perhaps including flashing the bios to 1.3, but I'm going to start looking into RMAing something back to newegg. I didn't pay for all these supposedly overclock-friendly components for nothing.

 

[Blargh]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK

Originally posted by: Blargh
What would you reccomend for memory for the IC7-g thugs? Cant get my Corsair twinx3200 (2 256mb sticks running dual ddr) to run stably no matter what voltage and timings i set it to. Looks like ill have to send them back and look for something else. Have any suggestions?

im only running a 182fsb and only tested with HyperX 3000 so far.
other ppl in that forum are using IC7/XMS3200 w/o problems.
they arent the best OCing ram, but they do run well.

most probs on the IC7 have to do with bios tweaking.
if anyones having problems understanding the Gaming Accelerator or the NorthBridge Strap ~ you should read my thread thats linked a few posts up.

HTH

Hm well would you know why i cant get memtest86 to not return errors when i run both of my sticks for dual ddr, but they run fine by themselves? Ive even tried to worst possible timings (3,8,4,4,) and 2.8v and it still got errors when run together. Youd say most problems with the IC7-G have to do with bios tweaking/issues , if so what should i have enabled/disabled/whatever in the bios at the moment. maybe im missing something obvious and its causing my errors? Really gotta know whats going on, need to have this pc running stable before the weekend, gunna lose my working area then and i really dont want to have to wait 2 weeks to be able to work on it again. Need to know if this is my rams fault, or maybe the bios, or the board itself, so i can replace whatevers not working with something better and move on. If its my memory thats at fault, would i be better off with 3500 or 3700 corsair? Dunno if im gunna be doing much if any OCin, but would that memory hold a decent OC?

 

[THUGSROOK]

if you are using slots 1+3 try slots 2+4 (or the reverse)

make sure northbridge strap is set for 800 and the ratio is 1:1 w/2.8v.

SPD cas timings do not work well ~ set them yourself manually to its rated specs (or better).

HTH

 

[etrin]

Weird one on the IC7 board. Can anyone tell me what I did wrong.
I added the backplate for the additional usb ports.
I plug in a usb pen/click drive and the light on it flashes for a second
then nothing.
I went in and looked and under usb devices it shows unknown device.
I unplug the device and this disappears under the usb devices.
(this thing works fine in the ports on the MB)

I set all usb enabled under the bios. And since it blinks once and says
unknown device when plugged in I guess its getting power.

Is there some secret way to activate this add on board ?

any help is greatly appreciated
Etrin

 

[vailr]

etrin:
Double-check that you plugged the connector into the USB header, and not the Firewire header.
Both motherboard headers are similar looking.
Also, the Intel Chipset Support driver is required.

 

[Blargh]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
if you are using slots 1+3 try slots 2+4 (or the reverse)

make sure northbridge strap is set for 800 and the ratio is 1:1 w/2.8v.

SPD cas timings do not work well ~ set them yourself manually to its rated specs (or better).

HTH

Ive tried the different banks and the NBS800 and nothing, not sure if it was at 2.8v or 2.7 tho. I believe i had the timings set to 2,6,3,3, and it still failed. Ill try again in a lil bit tho.

 

[Blargh]

Nope no good :/

Tried setting the NBS to 800, ratio to 1:1 , vdimm to 2.8 and timings to 2,7,3,3. Still fails. Only thing left on auto in the first bios area was agp divider , which was on auto (6/2/1). Should i take that off auto and set 6/2/1 manually? Would that make any difference?

If not... then hopefully the corsair twinx3700 i ordered this morning will fair better

 

[THUGSROOK]

yes, try everything!

 

[Vonkhan]

looks like i'ma gonna be the latest one on here ...

installing WinXP right now on:

Abit IC7
2.8Ghz / 533
9500Pro
512mb Samsung pc3200 (TCC4)
40GB Western Digital Special Edition
48x24x48 Sony CDRW

Gonna replace the components after I finish installing XP, so that ...

End config:

Abit IC7
2.8Ghz / 533
9800Pro (Visiontek)
1GB HyperX pc3500 (2 x 512)
2 x 160GB Western Digital Special Edition in Raid 0
48x24x48 LG CDRW/DVD
TBSC sound card
Antec 430w True Power
Xaser II Case

wish me luck, I'll need it with the HyperX!

 

[Blargh]

Originally posted by: THUGSROOK
yes, try everything!

Tried it... no good. Still fails either test 3 or test 4 within the first 4 passes. *sigh*

Hopefully the pair of Corsair twinx3700 i ordered this morning will do the job.

 

[Intelligence3]

I am getting my fail with Corsair XMS3500, Blargh, so I am curious what you will find. Please let us know what happens.

 

[etrin]

Man I am going to get me a hammer.
I said that I added the backplate for the additional usb ports.
I plug in a usb pen/click drive and the light on it flashes for a second
then nothing.

I looked at everything and tried again, nothing.
just to check I plugged in a camera, it detected it but could not install
any drivers....thats ok it detected it...WHEEEEE

I unplugged it removed the click drive from the onboard usb and plugged it
into the backplate and light blinked once and nothing...
WHAT ??? LOL

SO I get another brand of drive I had a work and plugged it in...same thing
works on the board but not on the exp slots.

Could this be a power problem? The camera has its own power the drives require
power from the board.

Any ideas?
anyone?

etrin

 

[Vonkhan]

Abit IC7
2.8Ghz / 533
9500Pro
512mb HyperX pc3500 @ 2-3-2-5
40GB Western Digital Special Edition
48x24x48 Sony CDRW

no problems so far

 

[KillerBob]

OK Guys,

I thought I had a rock stabil system with an OC of 230MHz (DRAM Ratio 5:4, voltage 2,7v). However, having just tested with Memtest86, I find errors in test 5. However, at 228 it is fine.

Given that is only a DDR speed of 368, considerably below the rated 434, should I complain? The same test is fine with FSB 220, and DRAM Ratio 1:1. So here the RAM is OK at 440???

 

[JonnyBlaze]

killerbob, how many passes of memtest doe it do before it fails?

were running basically the same hardware at the same fsb too. i used to be able to run at 235fsb, but with the new bios i can only get 230.

also, what do you have for temps at idle? i think mine are high for some reason lately. im getting around 53c idle.

JB

 

[JonnyBlaze]

Originally posted by: dwb122
So, anyone have any idea why my computer doesn't detect the hard drive when I try to overclock the FSB?

dwb122, did you set the pci / agp clock to fixed? that should help you.


JB