Semantics? Ok, RJ Three then? I guess I have to spell everything out for you.
Actually, let me spell it out for YOU. It is R
G III, R
G3, or however you want to denote it, but his last name is "Griffin," not "Jriffin."
Does it really matter? No, the Saint D isn't better than the Bears, the Skins are better than Indy... but those teams didn't play each other. So what?
So when Andrew Luck plays a bad team and lights them up, we can go ahead and start penciling him into Canton? This is what I'm saying. RGIII was not running for his life all day. He didn't get hit on nearly every play. I flipped between the two games, so I know.
2-14 v 10-6 and likely another playoff miss for Indy. Are you seriously discussing these two teams? You sound silly.... please, quit embarassing yourself.
The only one embarrassing himself in this thread is you. You can't even get the guy's name right (it is RGIII) and then try to divert by "Oh, you're bringing up x, y, z from the past!!" No, I'm not. You're the one that brought the past up in the first place, not me.
Oh, it's no doubt the Lions are historically terrible... can't deny that at all. It's also fact that Indy aint worth a pile of dog crap without Manning. 2-14 aint much better than 0-16. Before 98, they were bottom-feeders as well.
Actually, from about 95 on, the Colts were pretty good. Yeah, they had a couple of off years but most teams do. They missed the Super Bowl by one pass in 95/96 with Jim Harbaugh at the helm. But I'm sure you knew that already, right? Right?
Oh, and the Colts are crappy? Thank you very much, Dr. Obvious. Is this somehow news or a revelation? No one denies that. I've said it many times here in fact. I cursed Irsay for getting rid of Manning because as bad as the Colts are, Manning by himself (at least pre-injury) almost guaranteed 10 wins on this shitty team. Yes, it is a shitty team. Just yesterday (I believe, maybe a few days ago) I remarked that I was afraid Luck was going to get beaten up against the Bears. Guess what? He was hit on nearly EVERY play.
And believe me, you noobs may not understand this, but the Colts did NOT get shitty overnight. Those of us who watched this team over the last 5 or 6 years knew it was in deep trouble. The offensive line went to hell YEARS ago and Manning saved them. The defense was never great but you had Polian letting go of solid linebackers and keeping guys like Bob Sanders, who sucked up cap space, a roster position, and never played. Even with all of this, Manning masked most of the deficiencies very well. Make no mistake -- I am a huge Manning fan and I'm not ashamed to admit I hope the Broncos kick the Colts asses the first time they meet and I hope Irsay jumps out of his owner box in despair.
They're between a 2-14 and 4-12 team this year. They don't have the offensive line to protect Luck nor do they have a good defense. I do expect them to be better in the next 2 to 4 years, as they're playing with a lot of dead money now and after they jettison Freeney, they'll likely be big players in free agency.
More excuses...
I expect nothing less from spoiled Indy fans.
What excuses? I said they were supposed to lose and did. That isn't an excuse.
I will give you this though -- Indy fans are spoiled. Maybe if the Lions put together a run like Manning did, you Detroit fans will understand. The franchise was horrible from 84 to 95 or so, had a few bad years from 95 to 2001, and was stellar every year since then. Now we're starting over and it could take a few years. Luck will be a great one, I have no doubt. He may not survive with that offensive line, however.
Oh, and wait until the inevitable end of the Pats. I guarantee you haven't seen a fan base meltdown like you'll see when that happens.
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