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Officer shoots nine people with one shot!

madoka

madoka

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I am the only one in this restaurant professional enough that I can carry this *BANG*!

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/corrections-officers-gun-mistakenly-goes-shooters-cafe

An off duty corrections officer in Florida is the latest person to have a gun accidentally go off and injure people. According to the Florida-based Sun Sentinel, a gun went off inside a cafe, injuring nine people.

The bullet hit the metal base of a table, and then ricocheted off into customers. The Miami-Dade Corrections officer, named Marcus Leon Thompson, told law enforcement that his gun went off when he reached for money and a valet ticket into his pocket, which also contained his gun.

The Sun-Sentinel reports that “the police reports list nine people who either felt a burning sensation or received small cuts from bullet fragments after Thompson's gun went off, including two staffers. A 79-year-old woman visiting from New Jersey was taken to Broward Health Medical Center with a small fragment in her buttocks.”

After the incident, Thompson handed his server money for the bill and went outside with his wife. His server, after he figured out what happened in the cafe, told Thompson to wait for the police.

The name of the bar where the indicent happened is "Shooters Waterfront" and the irony isn't lost on the owner, who bought the business last week. But she says "this was an accident that could have happened anywhere."
 
His gun was a Glock 19. I'm surprised no one realized a gun had gone off. You would think some would be deafened by the blast.
 
madoka said:
The Sun-Sentinel reports that “the police reports list nine people who either felt a burning sensation or received small cuts from bullet fragments after Thompson's gun went off, including two staffers. A 79-year-old woman visiting from New Jersey was taken to Broward Health Medical Center with a small fragment in her buttocks.”

After the incident, Thompson handed his server money for the bill and went outside with his wife. His server, after he figured out what happened in the cafe, told Thompson to wait for the police.

The name of the bar where the incident happened is "Shooters Waterfront" and the irony isn't lost on the owner, who bought the business last week. But she says "this was an accident that could have happened anywhere."
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madoka said:
His gun was a Glock 19. I'm surprised no one realized a gun had gone off. You would think some would be deafened by the blast.
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That wasn't in the article. Where did you see that?

Anyway, it's pretty stupid to just put a gun in your pocket. It's REALLY stupid to put a Glock anywhere without a holster. That's a pretty chunky gun to just have in your pocket too... that couldn't have been comfortable.
 
I'm just going to say it now I don't believe that the ricochet from his bullet hit NINE people as the article claims. That seems just a bit hard to believe.
 
Police arrived on the scene shortly after the incident and retrieved a Glock 19 9mmm firearm and a loaded magazine from Thompson's left pocket, along with a Miami-Dade Corrections Department Firearms Qualification Card, which indicated the gun was approved for on-duty use.
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No safety on Glocks. That's why this happens and we have the term "Glock leg".

Also the case on many guns that have copied the Glock action, although other mfgs sometimes do add a safety.

Glock will tell you they do have a safety. The "safe action".

So we then have a new term, "affirmative safety", which is the typical safety most people think if, that has to be turned off for the gun to fire. That is, an external safety that can be turned on or off.

Glocks have no "affirmative safety". A Glock will always fire if a round is in the pipe and the trigger is pulled.
 
Doppel said:
I'm just going to say it now I don't believe that the ricochet from his bullet hit NINE people as the article claims. That seems just a bit hard to believe.
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My *guess* would be that the bullet hit the metal base of the table, as it says in the article, and one or both shattered. Some combination of fragments from the table base and/or the bullet then hit nine people. It's also possible some of the people, those who had burning sensations but didn't go to the hospital, were hit by burning material from the guys pants or jacket pocket that the gun was apparently fired through. Cloth usually catches fire or is smoldering after a gun is fired like that.

Just a guess, but the reporter should have asked those questions to clarify. The way the article is written it sounds like we have a magic bullet that somehow wove it's way through nine people.

Many reporters either are too dumb to ask common sense questions like these, or write their article straight from the police report which often lacks details. Sloppy reporting, but the best and brightest aren't going into journalism these days.

EDIT: There were lots of questions any good reporter should have asked, but the first ones that comes to mind are "Why did the officer leave the scene after his gun went off?"..."Why did the officer not render aid or call for aid for the people injured when his gun went off?"..."What disciplinary action, if any, is he facing?"..."Was the gun inside a pocket holster or just loose inside the officer's pocket?"..."Does the department mandate off-duty weapons be carried in a secure holster?"...and the list goes on.
 
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brainhulk said:
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This is my safety
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I thought you got a raw deal when they decided to redo the hulk and pretended it never existed. I really liked your portrayal of Bruce Banner. I also liked it when you delivered that same line in Blackhawk Down.

But seriously, why the hell was the firearm shoved in his pocket?
 
Doppel said:
Right, but to hit NINE people with the fragments? Seems a real stretch.
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At the shooting range we call it splashback. It's when a moron's bullet hits a hanger or something. So bullet plus hangar fragments ricochet back towards the shooter and others in neighboring stalls.

I got hit with splashback once. It hurt really bad. But looked like nothing.

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So if that bullet hit something that also fragments, I could see alot of people hit.
 
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And of course if any regular joe did this they would be in trouble. This guy a "trained" cop will still keep his job and just give a lazy apology.
 
LTC8K6 said:
Because "open carry" is illegal in Florida?

Guns are scary and it frightens people to see them, so you have to carry concealed...
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Still needs to be in a holster. I'm not farmiliar with the glock but my smith & wesson a former police issue gun has no safety. They are ment for shoot outs. The trigger pull on mine is long and heavy. The hammer is round and smooth. The only way for it to fire is to pull the trigger. Which is about impossible if its in holster.
 
skull said:
Still needs to be in a holster. I'm not farmiliar with the glock but my smith & wesson a former police issue gun has no safety. They are ment for shoot outs. The trigger pull on mine is long and heavy. The hammer is round and smooth. The only way for it to fire is to pull the trigger. Which is about impossible if its in holster.
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There are a lot of guns designed to be in a pocket, and have pocket holsters designed for them. The 19 was never intended as a pocket gun, so chances are there's no pocket holster for it. Why he doesn't have an inside-waistband holster though, that's the real question. The glock triggers aren't heavy or that long, so they absolutely need to be in a holster.

I still can't figure out what the guy was thinking
 
skull said:
Still needs to be in a holster. I'm not farmiliar with the glock but my smith & wesson a former police issue gun has no safety. They are ment for shoot outs. The trigger pull on mine is long and heavy. The hammer is round and smooth. The only way for it to fire is to pull the trigger. Which is about impossible if its in holster.
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Glocks have 3 safeties. None of them are external. The gun *cannot* go bang without pulling the trigger.

Also, even if it was a 19 which is 9mm, you are going to feel the recoil. The slide still has to move. There is going to be fire coming out of the end of the barrel. Between my pants being on fire, the intense heat on my leg, the ringing in my ears and chunk of flesh ripped off by the slide, I would know my gun went off.

Also, the report says some of the "victims" only felt heat. Unless the guy was using frangible ammo, I just don't see how the ricochet could hit 9 people.
 
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