OCUK: 290X "Slightly faster than GTX 780"

[Z15CAM]

When R9 280X will be $299 but R9 290X is $599-649, that's an unreasonable premium for most of us for a mere 35% increase in performance. Just my 2 cents.

I agree but $600 for 4K Gaming is H*)) of a lot cheaper then a nVidia GeForce OC'd GTX 780.

I'm surprized you didn't rebuttal my crippled MS Fraunhofer MP3 Codec Pro v1.263i statement - LOL

 

[Imouto]

That's a shop, they're just trying to move stock.

 

[3DVagabond]

That's a shop, they're just trying to move stock.

Yes. That looked like he was more concerned with selling current stock than getting people to line up waiting for the new cards.

 

[Arkadrel]

OCUK could be downplaying it,
like others have said to help him clear inventory of older cards.

 

[SiliconWars]

Gibbo normally has his sales-face on but he wouldn't just downright lie about that (I mean the other cards).

He could be downplaying the 290X's performance vs the 780 though, as he'll still want to shift some 780's and saying that the 290X is faster than (or equal) to Titan isn't going to help him do that.

 

[Gikaseixas]

Still I find it very hard to get excited about a card that might barely edge out a 780 that comes out nearly 6 months later at $600+.

This

I might just CF my i7 rig after all and call it a day
20nm needs happen before i spend $600 on Nv or AMD

 

[3DVagabond]

Gibbo normally has his sales-face on but he wouldn't just downright lie about that (I mean the other cards).

Nobody said he was downright lying. It was a pure sales pitch though for current stock.

 

[LegSWAT]

similar price is a disappointment.was hoping for £400ish.500+ im out.

Buhuhuu :'oD: Is that how guys with SLI-Titans argue when it comes to the other camp? (not implying you actually own 1-2 Titans)
In the next post, those green MBA-wannabees bash AMD for how non-profitable, not to say charitable, their GPU division works. So it's OK when nV charges 1000+ bucks a graphics card but AMD should give their equal-performing cards away for factory costs. If they don't, they're evil, and if they do, they're too dumb to run a business, in the opinion of your-likes!

Mantle would be dependent on a very specific architecture for the tweaks to work, possibly hampering AMD from necessary redesigns on later chips. "Eternal" is not the word I would use.

Seems like they're very confident GCN at its shader core is the best GPU/APU architecture for a long time to come. Seeing it from a tech-POV, just looking at current specs, they even might be right with it, unless some totally revolutionary secret sauce would appear out of nowhere and turn around the entire GPU industry.

The memory speeds alone don't seem to do much for performance on this generation, nor on the last. The 79xx's can easily oc to the 300GB/s++ speeds that AMD bragged about in the presentation, and they've been out for almost two years.

Ah hello? It's got an additional memory channel! That's +33% more bandwidth at equal speeds, comparing apples to apples. What's hindering you to OC Hawaii in the same way as Tahiti?

 

[blackened23]

Wait, is the Titan slightly faster than the 780? Someone help me figure this out.

Or is the Titan 17 times faster than the 780? Help, what is. I was hoping the R9X would be massively faster than the 780 just like the Titan is. The Titan is 20x faster than the 780, right?

 

[LegSWAT]

Wait, is the Titan slightly faster than the 780? Someone help me figure this out.

Or is the Titan 17 times faster than the 780? Help, what is. I was hoping the R9X would be massively faster than the 780 just like the Titan is. The Titan is 20x faster than the 780, right?

For some on here, it's 20, nay 200, nay 20.000 times faster!

 

[blackened23]

For some on here, it's 20, nay 200, nay 20.000 times faster!

Oh, clearly, I agree with you. I guess AMD lost this round since the Titan is SO MUCH FASTER than the GTX 780. As we all know, the 400$ price difference between the 780 and Titan is clearly justifiable. The performance difference is so far in favor of the Titan, that makes the price difference well worth it.

 

[Zanovar]

Buhuhuu :'oD: Is that how guys with SLI-Titans argue when it comes to the other camp? (not implying you actually own 1-2 Titans)
In the next post, those green MBA-wannabees bash AMD for how non-profitable, not to say charitable, their GPU division works. So it's OK when nV charges 1000+ bucks a graphics card but AMD should give their equal-performing cards away for factory costs. If they don't, they're evil, and if they do, they're too dumb to run a business, in the opinion of your-likes!


Seems like they're very confident GCN at its shader core is the best GPU/APU architecture for a long time to come. Seeing it from a tech-POV, just looking at current specs, they even might be right with it, unless some totally revolutionary secret sauce would appear out of nowhere and turn around the entire GPU industry.


Ah hello? It's got an additional memory channel! That's +33% more bandwidth at equal speeds, comparing apples to apples. What's hindering you to OC Hawaii in the same way as Tahiti?

Factory costs? [redacted] would you know about factory costs*laughs*.the time frame this card comes out and charging similar to a 780 for slightly faster.gime a break.

Profanity isn't allowed in the technical forums.
-- stahlhart

 

[Arkadrel]

Wait, is the Titan slightly faster than the 780? Someone help me figure this out.

Or is the Titan 17 times faster than the 780? Help, what is. I was hoping the R9X would be massively faster than the 780 just like the Titan is. The Titan is 20x faster than the 780, right?

Isnt the Titan only like 5-10% faster than the stock 780?
with factory overclocked 780s, being faster than the Titans (sometimes)?

 

[blackened23]

Factory costs? [redacted] would you know about factory costs*laughs*.the time frame this card comes out and charging similar to a 780 for slightly faster.gime a break.

Are you typing this on a phone? I love ghetto speak.

 

[blackened23]

Isnt the Titan only like 10% faster than the stock 780?
with factory overclocked 780s, being faster than the Titans?

Wrong. Word here is that the Titan is massively faster than the 780.

 

[Zanovar]

Are you typing this on a phone? I love ghetto speak.

Im sure youre used to it.*winks*

 

[LegSWAT]

Oh, clearly, I agree with you. I guess AMD lost this round since the Titan is SO MUCH FASTER than the GTX 780. As we all know, the 400$ price difference between the 780 and Titan is clearly justifiable. The performance difference is so far in favor of the Titan, that makes the price difference well worth it.

On a subjective position, when it comes to quantitative assessment, it's "One, two, many", simple as that.

Factory costs? [redacted] would you know about factory costs*laughs*.the time frame this card comes out and charging similar to a 780 for slightly faster.gime a break.

I'm ever-so-slightly hinting at double-standards when it comes to consumer's behavior, get my point? You want AMD to stay your cheap jack while at the same time happily buying overpriced products from the other camp. Cuda, physx and marketing gives nV products an enormous over-value and people are happy to pay up to 2,5 times more than a 7970 GHz for 30%-50% more performance, whilst on the other side, mantle, BF4 + a bunch of other games, true audio and whatnot other stuff team red packs in isn't worth a dime for same price same performance? Or, in short: Cash seems not to be an issue when it comes to team green, but is the major issue when it comes to team red. That about sums it up what marketing can do to your logic, right?

 

[Zanovar]

erm,i saw your point,i think.as for cheap jack?those days are long gone my friend.£500+ is overpriced for this card IMO(if only slightly faster than a 780).

 

[SiliconWars]

erm,i saw your point,i think.as for cheap jack?those days are long gone my friend.£500+ is overpriced for this card IMO(if only slightly faster than a 780).

Not when the competitors slower card is selling for £550...

 

[LegSWAT]

erm,i saw your point,i think.as for cheap jack?those days are long gone my friend.£500+ is overpriced for this card IMO(if slightly faster than a 780).

So (pulling numbers out of my Ares) let's say, if that new AMD card is 5% faster in most scenarios than the GTX 780, draws about equal wattage, comes with BF4 and a bunch of other games, is 50% faster in 1-2 optimized games and selling for the same price, you'd still call it overpriced?

 

[Zanovar]

Not when the competitors slower card is selling for £550...

which is well overpriced,im kinda looking for some sanity.

 

[SiliconWars]

http://beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1789377&postcount=850

None of them are rebrands apparently.

 

[LegSWAT]

which is well overpriced,im kinda looking for some sanity.

Ah, OK. Grasping the mode of operation of a modern & tech-driven duopoly in currency-inflated markets.

 

[LegSWAT]

http://beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1789377&postcount=850

None of them are rebrands apparently.

So either this is Orwellian new-speak, or it's some sort of Orwellian new-speak. I have a hard time believing this.

 

[Zanovar]

Ah, OK. Grasping the mode of operation of a modern & tech-driven duopoly in currency-inflated markets.[/QUOnvm
nvm