“Sapphire is working on two HD 7970 Atomic versions, which come with 1335/1434 MHz (core/memory) out of the box. We'll have pics of those cards pretty soon. One of them is air-cooled, the other has a self-contained liquid-cooling loop.” TPU
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18389257 there is thousands for and against VRAM threads (remember, more is better than less). Oh, isn’t nVidia bringing out a 4GB card soon, wait for the wind changing direction soon guys (It depends on which way the green toxic wind is blowing). Lol
I doubt it will be over $599
PS not saying all info in that link is correct but its first one i found as an example of some saying more and some less
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I wouldn't be surprised if it's well over $600.
An extra 4GB of HQ vram, non reference design... I don't see how it wouldn't be the highest price air cooled 7970 on the market.
An extra 4GB of HQ vram, non reference design... I don't see how it wouldn't be the highest price air cooled 7970 on the market.
I still don't understand at all why AMD didn't produce 1.5gb VRAM 7970s. That at 400$ would be an amazing deal, and most users simply aren't using eyefinity or resolutions greater than 1080p.
Gotta wonder what the heck they're thinking over there, it really is quite ludicrous.
You really believe that such a card would be priced at $400 based on how AMD has been pricing 28nm? More like $529 instead of $549.
[SIZE=+0]After you run theRadeon HD 7970video card manufacturers have shown a wide variety of custom options to build a top-level graphics card based on the GPUAMDToday's article will not ... disappointed, because we have the fastest GPU-based graphics card-TahitiSapphire HD 7970 Toxic[/SIZE].
[SIZE=+0]First Toxic we saw at CeBIT 2012, where a pair of graphics cards in CrossFire were hidden under the transparent cube test demo booth. Learn about 6 Gb of video memory and higher frequencies, we were looking forward to this card in our test lab, and finally, engineering samples of four pieces before we arrived. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0]Outwardly the Sapphire Atomic HD 7970 Toxic looks like most modern nereferensnyh video cards. Take the dvuhverntilâtornaâ cooling system, but under the black hood hides weight cooling system interesnostej. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0]First Toxic we saw at CeBIT 2012, where a pair of graphics cards in CrossFire were hidden under the transparent cube test demo booth. Learn about 6 Gb of video memory and higher frequencies, we were looking forward to this card in our test lab, and finally, engineering samples of four pieces before we arrived. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=+0]Outwardly the Sapphire Atomic HD 7970 Toxic looks like most modern nereferensnyh video cards. Take the dvuhverntilâtornaâ cooling system, but under the black hood hides weight cooling system interesnostej. [/SIZE]
Because Toxic have 6 Gb of graphics memory, it is no wonder that on the back of the circuit board is a sturdy metal frame, which serves as a heat sink for memory chips. I will say honestly that backs Toxic I like even more than the face-whether in these grey strips and "Vapor-X", whether the fault of the unusual to see chokes on the back of the PCB.
On the rear panel are two DVI ports, two miniDisplayPort and one HDMI. (C) one side is worth praise Sapphire for the variety of connectors, but on the other, you can rebuke the lack of support for six-CORE AMD Eyefinity configuration monitors.
In the enabled state map looks more attractive due to the presence of blue led lights on the top of the video card. It is also worth noting that the Sapphire tightened the power video card-basically you need two 8-pin power connector.
Front black jacket cooling system is somewhat commonplace, perhaps, logo or the name of the model would be more brighten up card.
While I repeat that on the back of the video card is absolutely the opposite impression.
If you look at the Sapphire HD 7970 Toxic without cooling system, as soon as it becomes clear that the engineers worked on glory, by reworking graphics card power system.
On the back side of the printed circuit board is noteworthy merely introduced an additional 3 Gb of graphics memory, recruited 12 chips.
System power supply processor has 8 stages and upravletsâ CHiL controller that is used to reference a selected range of graphics cards.
Under the massive radiator tucked mosfety, which no longer met the competitor's products very well. At the top of the printed circuit board have power LEDs, symbolizing the eight phases. The card has a dynamic phases of supply: when you start running only two phase system, and with the full zašruzke-all eight.
System video memory power has three phases.
System video memory power has three phases.
It is also worth mentioning the BIOS switch button. By default, the primary BIOS has elevated relative to the reference frequency 1000/1450 MHz for core and memory respectively. But if someone has such a performance may seem a little, there will be a single switching frequency grow up to BIOS and 1150/1500 Mhz. Such a threshold frequency plant really impressed me.
Of course, it's worth noting Sapphire and for originality place branded Black Diamond chokes, which are double-sided and very cool look. To my mind, this is the first experience of such location chokes.
Increased frequency of the graphics core and video RAM, of course, require high-quality cooling systems. Here at Sapphire also okay.
For the removal of heat from the GPU is the copper plate heat sink with heat pipes. And for dissipation of heat from the memory of the Sapphire uses thick enough termoprokladki, which, in my opinion, really tolše conventional.
Rear plate, as well as radiators supply circuit, also received the same thick termoprokladki for the dissipation of heat.
Jacket cooling system is notable is not allocated.
Radiator cooling system has four heat pipes that transfer heat to aluminum ribs.
Applied in practice, the decision on a common space for the dissipation of heat from the GPU and memory, it was quite successful, but more on that talk just below.
-Intel Core i7-2600K;
-Corsair Dominator RAM GTX2 2250 Mhz 2 x 2 Gb;
-motherboard ASUS Maxsimus IV Extreme_Z;
-solid state drive Corsair Force 3128 Gb;
-power supply Corsair AX 1200, 1200 Watts.
At 1.27 in graphics card Sapphire HD 7970 Toxic in benčmarke could make stable 3DMark11 at 1300/1900 Mhz frequencies. Remember that earlier I mentioned the four maps? So, calling the Smoke to boast my high speed, it denies me sosbstvennymi from the other three cards. One card having frequency 1300/1920 Mhz and two other razognalis′ until 1280/1850 Mhz. In my opinion, for air cooling and taking 6 Gb of video memory is impressive.
At 1.27 in graphics card Sapphire HD 7970 Toxic in benčmarke could make stable 3DMark11 at 1300/1900 Mhz frequencies. Remember that earlier I mentioned the four maps? So, calling the Smoke to boast my high speed, it denies me sosbstvennymi from the other three cards. One card having frequency 1300/1920 Mhz and two other razognalis′ until 1280/1850 Mhz. In my opinion, for air cooling and taking 6 Gb of video memory is impressive.
By the way, about popugaâh ... At 1300/1900 Mhz the result was 12463 marks.
In conclusion, it is worth noting that the Sapphire product HD 7970 Toxic turned out to be not only good quality but also innovative because Sapphire managed not only to graphics factory with the highest frequencies, but with 6 Gb of video memory.
In conclusion, it is worth noting that the Sapphire product HD 7970 Toxic turned out to be not only good quality but also innovative because Sapphire managed not only to graphics factory with the highest frequencies, but with 6 Gb of video memory.
Joseph F
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Yeah, it's a shame that you can't run FirePro drivers with it.
That would be truly badass.
T_Yamamoto
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My guess is they are thinking "we are still selling plenty of 7900s at the current pricing and our supply is still not all that great, lets get back to counting our $$$"
blckgrffn
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One thing about that OBR article - it says 20 - 25% increase on GTX 680.
Does that really excite people? Given that it will probably need ~50% more power? Just curious...
BEASTLY 7970. I wish I had the money and lack of restraint required to buy one.
Well, I have the first part, but then I would likely be choosing either a video card or my marriage
Yuuuuuuup. Economics.
Kind of like how the GTX 680 launched without sufficient supply, which helped to diffuse AMD sales while also keeping the perceived value of the card inflated. They could have waited, but why should they, as they could tell they had a good card in their hands? It's not the 7800GTX all over again, but the principles are largely the same.
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One thing about that OBR article - it says 20 - 25% increase on GTX 680.
Does that really excited people? Given that it will probably need ~50% more power? Just curious...
BEASTLY 7970. I wish I had the money and lack of restraint required to buy one.
Well, I have the first part, but then I would likely be choosing either a video card or my marriage
20-25% would make it at least 50% faster than the 7970, and 50% more power, while total fud, would place it below an overclocked 7970 anyways.
Go look up 560ti 170w vs 580 240w reviews and come back with an actual perf/watt comparison so we're on the same page.
blckgrffn
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Hah! Nah, I won't bother.
Why would that be *total* FUD? Unless you think that Big-Kepler isn't compute focused (ie, all the crap they ripped out of the 680?)
The GTX 680 is clearly a card for gaming. They don't even include compute as one of its attributes on the nvidia comparison page.
I *think* that Big-K is going to be much more different than the 560 ti to 580 comparison. They aren't making Big-K for the majority of consumers on this forum, in my estimation.
Perhaps they've decided the scheduler, et al is not needed and compute performance can be maintained. In that case, perhaps performance and power consumption will scale better than I expect.
I mean, picture a Big-K that effectively keeps ROPs and TMUs static (what good are they in a GPU server? I am willing to be educated on that if I am wrong
) and doubles down on Cuda cores and adds back all that hardware logic for compute... it could be 20-25% faster in some cases where it isn't limited, and gobble up plenty of power as well.Ditto. Craziness!
Right - I forget that crazy performance a 7970 can get around 300W. If (when?) big-k pushes those upper power limits (why wouldn't it?) and doesn't really pull away from the 7970 in all cases (well, it better be a monster in compute...) then it won't be very exciting for people on this forum.
Which is the point I am trying to make.
Sorry to derail this thread - if this comes up again under some appropriate topic I'll be there
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If Big K is only 20-25% faster than a GTX 680, that's a major disappointment. The GTX 680 is almost twice as fast as the GTX 560 Ti at my resolution. I would hope that Big K would be at least 40% faster than the GTX 680, otherwise I wouldn't consider it for an upgrade. At only 20-25% faster it might be as fast as my overclocked 7970, which is trivial to say the least.
I guess we'll just have to see, GK104 is clocked too high yet is still incredibly efficient compared to the 7970. Efficiency at those clocks isn't all that great, as Anand demonstrated when they reduced the TDP target. But it also gave Nvidia the first flagship 1GHz core card, bragging rights took precedence over actual efficiency I guess
http://www.hpcwire.com/hpcwire/2012..._hpc_version_waiting_in_the_wings.html?page=1
The only real question that lingers for me, is if Nvidia will even bother to bring a compute crippled GK100 to desktop users. 20-25% probably won't incur the wrath of 50% more power, since they won't need to clock it up past a reasonable perf/watt range just to exceed the 7970 in stock reviews enough to dethrone it.
http://www.hpcwire.com/hpcwire/2012..._hpc_version_waiting_in_the_wings.html?page=1
The only real question that lingers for me, is if Nvidia will even bother to bring a compute crippled GK100 to desktop users. 20-25% probably won't incur the wrath of 50% more power, since they won't need to clock it up past a reasonable perf/watt range just to exceed the 7970 in stock reviews enough to dethrone it.
blckgrffn
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I guess we'll just have to see, GK104 is clocked too high yet is still incredibly efficient compared to the 7970. Efficiency at those clocks isn't all that great, as Anand demonstrated when they reduced the TDP target. But it also gave Nvidia the first flagship 1GHz core card, bragging rights took precedence over actual efficiency I guess
The only real question that lingers for me, is if Nvidia will even bother to bring a compute crippled GK100 to desktop users. 20-25% probably won't incur the wrath of 50% more power, since they won't need to clock it up past a reasonable perf/watt range just to exceed the 7970 in stock reviews enough to dethrone it.
Right! Especially when 28nm production is tight and they could be selling ridiculously (in comparison only) priced Teslas with that silicon.
No doubt the 680 is wicked gaming card. With any luck, I'll score one a couple years from now
That's why I believe they came out with GK104 first, small die, easier fab, less waste, more dies per wafer, proof of concept within their new designs and features (boost), troubleshooting improvements in the fab process...
GK100/110 if it does come, could be pretty amazing... But it won't be until they've got enough wafers to make it worth while... Why release a larger (assuming 500mm2+ die) in a consolized market where you're making bank off a mid-ranged part at $500...
The sad truth of the matter is 28nm has been the most disappointing gpu launch I can ever remember, though I must admit my needs aren't exactly aligning with "steam".
GK100/110 if it does come, could be pretty amazing... But it won't be until they've got enough wafers to make it worth while... Why release a larger (assuming 500mm2+ die) in a consolized market where you're making bank off a mid-ranged part at $500...
The sad truth of the matter is 28nm has been the most disappointing gpu launch I can ever remember, though I must admit my needs aren't exactly aligning with "steam".
Anyone who thinks this card is going to be priced "reasonably" is dillusional. It's going to cost A LOT! Just look at it.
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