Occupy protests set for May 1

[Jhhnn]

I don't think you know what May Day is either. Go google some about its history, meaning and origin. It's also called international workers day. You know, the day for the proletariat to rise up and stop capitalism.

That's already been linked for your education, but you're apparently ineducable, being steeped in far Right rhetoric & delusion.

Just calling people Commies is denial of what Righties always claim they're so fond of- the marketplace of ideas. If your ideas were so great, we wouldn't have had the financial meltdown, bailout & massive un- and under employment of today, nor millions of homeowners still facing foreclosure, many more hopelessly underwater, chained by debt.

If your ideas are truly better, then people should be able to see that, and you wouldn't have to resort to slander and fear based emotional boogeymen to make your point.

You *are* desperately afraid, I think, and allow that to whip you into a frenzy of delusion on an all too frequent basis. It's sad, it really is.

 

[spidey07]

That's already been linked for your education, but you're apparently ineducable, being steeped in far Right rhetoric & delusion.

Just calling people Commies is denial of what Righties always claim they're so fond of- the marketplace of ideas. If your ideas were so great, we wouldn't have had the financial meltdown, bailout & massive un- and under employment of today, nor millions of homeowners still facing foreclosure, many more hopelessly underwater, chained by debt.

If your ideas are truly better, then people should be able to see that, and you wouldn't have to resort to slander and fear based emotional boogeymen to make your point.

You *are* desperately afraid, I think, and allow that to whip you into a frenzy of delusion on an all too frequent basis. It's sad, it really is.

No, that was the wrong link. I corrected that post with the proper link to International Workers Day (aka May Day). Current May Day protests/work stoppages and the entire reason why ows picked this day prove you wrong.

Do you REALLY think may day labor/commie protests are about some welcoming of spring? You're not that stupid.

We can stop arguing about what May Day is since I'm correct. Let's see what kind of illegal behavior, stopping of commerce/business and property rights, blocking NY tunnels/streets all in the name of "welcome spring!"

 

[IGBT]

occuSquatters have had NO practical political result. And simply underscore the fact that liberals are in a perpetual state of adolescence. So what stores will get looted tomorrow or the following days?? I suspect Nike shoes and iPads will be at the top of the looting list.

 

[alzan]

Tell me again this isn't a far left/communist "movement" again? May Day and it's history is deeply rooted in communism. Will there be more marxist violence in Oakland again? Will we get to see worthless folks getting pepper sprayed while we, the hard working tax paying American, roll our eyes in disgust?

One thing for sure, you'll see nothing but the far left fringe in these protests just like the last time. Shutting down commerce, destroying private property, a call for their "fair share" of OUR money. That we even have people that think like this in our country gets a big "down twinkles" from me.

http://www.4029tv.com/r/30978750/detail.html

I know. I'm sick of all these useless individuals thinking they have a right to our money; individuals like, GE, Halliburton, Shell, Raytheon, News Corp., et al. Worthless, every single last one of them. Boy I'd love to hit them with some pepper spray.

 

[alzan]

Why don't you go google what May Day is, what it stands for, and why it's celebrated? Seems you don't know what it is, the very definition of ignorant. Willfully so.

There is a word for folks like that as well, communist supporters = useful idiots. Which is all the occupiers really are as history has shown us and communist leaders will always try to use the useful idiots.

The term "useful idiots" could be applied accurately to capitalist supporters as well.

 

[spidey07]

The term "useful idiots" could be applied accurately to capitalist supporters as well.

You also need to learn your history, the term has specific definitions and uses in history. Capitalist supporters enhance their lives via capitalism, they are no idiot and are only useful to the better their income and in kind lifts everybody.

 

[umbrella39]

Oh boy yet another inane shit stir OP... retire this ruse already PTB...

 

[Bowfinger]

3% seems a bit ... high?

No, that was the actual result from an experiment I conducted with Spidey. He provided a set of pictures of OWS protests around America, pronouncing them proof that it was a communist movement focused primarily on destroying capitalism (paraphrased). I looked at the photos, realized he was delusional, and challenged him to an objective test. I challenged him to look at all the protestors' signs in those photos and tally the ones that supported his claim to ones that had other, less radical messages.

He failed. No, that's too kind. He imploded into a singularity of denial. Of the 100 or so signs legible in the photos, he could perceive only three that arguably supported his views. The other 97 or so signs, the ones that focused on corruption and financial fraud and similar issues, he flat out couldn't acknowledge them at all. It appeared as though he was literally incapable of seeing them. In short, he saw the 3% that supported his paranoid delusions and completely shut out the 97% that did not.

Thus is the mind of a lunatic. It makes its own reality.

 

[spidey07]

No, that was the actual result from an experiment I conducted with Spidey. He provided a set of pictures of OWS protests around America, pronouncing them proof that it was a communist movement focused primarily on destroying capitalism (paraphrased). I looked at the photos, realized he was delusional, and challenged him to an objective test. I challenged him to look at all the protestors' signs in those photos and tally the ones that supported his claim to ones that had other, less radical messages.

He failed. No, that's too kind. He imploded into a singularity of denial. Of the 100 or so signs legible in the photos, he could perceive only three that arguably supported his views. The other 97 or so signs, the ones that focused on corruption and financial fraud and similar issues. He flat out couldn't acknowledge them at all. It appeared as though he was literally incapable of seeing them. In short, he saw the 3% that supported his paranoid delusions and completely shut out the 97% that did not.

Thus is the mind of a lunatic. It makes its own reality.

LOL! You're still holding on to your delusions, it's funny if not sad you are so extremely mentally ill and incapable of accepting reality.

Go occupy something.

No comment on ows picking international workers day (may day) for their protests? Still trying to tell me it isn't a far left/communist movement with this fact and proof?

 

[halik]

Woo a May day parade, haven't had to participate in one of these since '89.

 

[Bowfinger]

The term "useful idiots" could be applied accurately to capitalist supporters as well.

There's nothing wrong with supporting capitalism. It's a great system ... as long as one recognizes its flaws and guards against them by instituting reasonable constraints to limit abuse and corruption. The issue is those who fight against such constraints out of greed and delusions of grandeur. They recognize the corruption in our current system but believe they, too, will someday become one of the wealthy elite. They won't, of course, but they are the useful idiots for those elites, passionately defending the status quo.

There is also a third category, the useless idiots. These are the people who haven't a clue how capitalism does and does not work. All they know is their party says, "Government bad. Regulations bad. Money good. Greed good." They have the same passion as the useful idiots, but are incapable of offering an intelligent defense for the elite. All they can do is parrot dumb talking points, which leads thoughtful people to dismiss them as immaterial.

 

[feralkid]

No, that was the actual result from an experiment I conducted with Spidey. He provided a set of pictures of OWS protests around America, pronouncing them proof that it was a communist movement focused primarily on destroying capitalism (paraphrased). I looked at the photos, realized he was delusional, and challenged him to an objective test. I challenged him to look at all the protestors' signs in those photos and tally the ones that supported his claim to ones that had other, less radical messages.

He failed. No, that's too kind. He imploded into a singularity of denial. Of the 100 or so signs legible in the photos, he could perceive only three that arguably supported his views. The other 97 or so signs, the ones that focused on corruption and financial fraud and similar issues. He flat out couldn't acknowledge them at all. It appeared as though he was literally incapable of seeing them. In short, he saw the 3% that supported his paranoid delusions and completely shut out the 97% that did not.

Thus is the mind of a lunatic. It makes its own reality.

That makes sense, I was starting to think he was just being obstinate for the sake of being a jackass, but I think you're right...he seems to suffer a pathological inability to comprehend any facts that oppose his world view.

Kind of sad that it's likely gone beyond simply acting out as a forum troll, I'm sure it's having a negative impact on his family and work life.

I think it's probably best to just ignore him, amusing as it is to watch him implode, I feel a little guilty for finding amusement in his rantings. It's a disease after all, and should be dealt with compassionately.

 

[Bowfinger]

LOL! You're still holding on to your delusions, it's funny if not sad you are so extremely mentally ill and incapable of accepting reality.

Go occupy something.

Sorry that you can't accept the fact that you failed so miserably, but it is a fact nonetheless. You showed literally zero ability to recognize the 97% of the signs in your photos. Zero. All you could do is prattle on endlessly about the 3% that arguably supported your paranoia. You definitively proved your own mental illness in that little exercise. That you continue to bleat about others not accepting reality only highlights just how far over the edge you've fallen.

Get help. Seriously.

No comment on ows picking international workers day (may day) for their protests? Still trying to tell me it isn't a far left/communist movement with this fact and proof?

Nope, no comment because to be blunt, I don't give a flying fsck. Frankly, if OWS chose May 1 to coincide with the international workers day, it's smart marketing. This is a battle between the wealthy elite and the working class. There's nothing wrong with calling attention to this.

It is the wealthy elite who profited enormously from our economic crash. It is the wealthy elite who circumvent the law by buying politicians to change the law for them. It is the wealthy elite who have off-shored America's middle class jobs to enrich themselves even further. It is the American workers, the tax-paying middle class, who get bent over again and again to pay for the elite's looting of America.

None of this means OWS opposes capitalism, however, no matter how shrilly you insist otherwise. This battle between the wealthy elite and the worker does not require eliminating capitalism. It simply requires reigning in unbridled greed and restoring a better balance between the so-called 99% and the 1%. It requires rooting out corruption and eliminating corporate ownership of Congress. Yes, American capitalism badly needs to be fixed. It doesn't need to be eliminated.

 

[Pens1566]

LOL! You're still holding on to your delusions, it's funny if not sad you are so extremely mentally ill and incapable of accepting reality.

Go occupy something.

No comment on ows picking international workers day (may day) for their protests? Still trying to tell me it isn't a far left/communist movement with this fact and proof?

Heal thyself.

 

[Moonbeam]

Until the people stop the wealthy nothing will change.

 

[monovillage]

Until the people stop the wealthy nothing will change.

Says the wealthy man.

 

[alzan]

There's nothing wrong with supporting capitalism. It's a great system ... as long as one recognizes its flaws and guards against them by instituting reasonable constraints to limit abuse and corruption. The issue is those who fight against such constraints out of greed and delusions of grandeur. They recognize the corruption in our current system but believe they, too, will someday become one of the wealthy elite. They won't, of course, but they are the useful idiots for those elites, passionately defending the status quo.

There is also a third category, the useless idiots. These are the people who haven't a clue how capitalism does and does not work. All they know is their party says, "Government bad. Regulations bad. Money good. Greed good." They have the same passion as the useful idiots, but are incapable of offering an intelligent defense for the elite. All they can do is parrot dumb talking points, which leads thoughtful people to dismiss them as immaterial.

I know I do think capitalism is one of the best systems thus far conceived and practiced. But through too much of my life have seen the inherent abuses of unregulated/unbridled capitalism used against the many for the comfort of a few. I believe that ultimately, the Occupy movements and their supporters will bring lasting changes to capitalism for the better. The abuse by the few will still be there unfortunately, but a fairer shake for the many will have been won.

It's ultimately a people problem; and as a society we evolve a little bit for every protest.

As far as my original post, I guess I just can't resist splashing spidey's with a little water once and a while.

 

[Matt1970]

Until the people stop the wealthy nothing will change.

The wealthy must be stopped at once. This kind of shit cannot be allowed to continue.

 

[Rainsford]

I think protesting against those who abuse capitalism is a fine idea, I just think the OWS folks are going about it in a particularly dumb way. The point of effective protest is drawing attention to an ISSUE...while the OWS people mainly seem to be able to draw attention to themselves. I suspect it's because they aren't interested in any serious issues so much as they want to cause trouble or have an excuse for not having ever accomplished anything in their lives. And I say this as a pretty big lefty. I wish the OWS protestors would shut their pie holes...they're not helping anything.

Although I have to say I think many righties are taking a little TOO much advantage of the OWS people being tools and claim them as a reason to dismiss all liberalism. Which to be fair, isn't exactly an unknown tactic for lazy people on both sides of the political spectrum.

 

[cybrsage]

If OWS wanted real change they would protest congress. That would mean protesting both GOP and DNC members, though. Since the Unions were helping to bankroll OWS, they could not allow them to protest DNC members.

 

[Bowfinger]

If OWS wanted real change they would protest congress. That would mean protesting both GOP and DNC members, though. Since the Unions were helping to bankroll OWS, they could not allow them to protest DNC members.

Not true. They did protest Congress, they also protested Obama, and there was an Occupy Washington branch of the OWS movement.

 

[Bowfinger]

I think protesting against those who abuse capitalism is a fine idea, I just think the OWS folks are going about it in a particularly dumb way. The point of effective protest is drawing attention to an ISSUE...while the OWS people mainly seem to be able to draw attention to themselves. I suspect it's because they aren't interested in any serious issues so much as they want to cause trouble or have an excuse for not having ever accomplished anything in their lives. And I say this as a pretty big lefty. I wish the OWS protestors would shut their pie holes...they're not helping anything.

Although I have to say I think many righties are taking a little TOO much advantage of the OWS people being tools and claim them as a reason to dismiss all liberalism. Which to be fair, isn't exactly an unknown tactic for lazy people on both sides of the political spectrum.

I agree. While the idea behind OWS was good, their execution was erratic and generally got worse as time passed. They ultimately decided to wrap it up for the winter and regroup in the spring. We'll have to see if they used that hiatus to get their act together and focus their message.

 

[cybrsage]

The handful of them in DC? Token showing only...though they did manage to create a health hazard in DC too.

 

[Bowfinger]

The handful of them in DC? Token showing only...though they did manage to create a health hazard in DC too.

So you acknowledge you were wrong?

Yeah, didn't think so.

 

[cybrsage]

So you acknowledge you were wrong?

Yeah, didn't think so.

Of course I do. I did not realize there were enough OWS people there to create a health and sanitation hazard to quickly. They supplied enough token numbers to say they were there, then caused a health and safety hazard to prove they were OWS members.

Can you admit you were wrong now too?