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cheezy321

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If it makes you feel better to do that, go right ahead. I wonder if that is how you behave in person as well.

All fatties deserve to be publicly shamed and scorned until they reach a respectable weight.

Everyone knows this. Especially fatties.
 

Eli

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The report was financed by one of the manufacturers of gastric banding, a type of obesity surgery.

LOL. Uh, yeah. Not that I don't believe the study is true, but why do these things always seem to be funded by a company that has an interest in the findings? lol
 

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I wonder how much runners cost companies extra? All those foot, knee problems, etc?
 
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Don't have 3 kids if you can't afford to feed them correctly.

Anyone who can afford to feed their children junk can affort do feed them good food, what is lacking isn't funds, it's intelligence and effort.

I can cook a healthy meal that will feed a family of four for two dinners for under £10.

Healthy food is DEFINENTLY cheaper than unhealthy food.
 

Flipped Gazelle

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LOL. Uh, yeah. Not that I don't believe the study is true, but why do these things always seem to be funded by a company that has an interest in the findings? lol

Well, why would a company that doesn't have an interest in the findings fund a study?

;)
 

Flipped Gazelle

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Anyone who can afford to feed their children junk can affort do feed them good food, what is lacking isn't funds, it's intelligence and effort.

I can cook a healthy meal that will feed a family of four for two dinners for under £10.

Healthy food is DEFINENTLY cheaper than unhealthy food.

Rice is not particularly healthy, and is probably the cheapest food you can get.
 
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Rice is not particularly healthy, and is probably the cheapest food you can get.

Whole grain rice is not unhealthy and usually cheaper than the white worthless rice that most people buy.

It's got fat, protein, minerals and vitamins that is not in white rise, especially not Jasmin or Basmati rice which is basically just starch.

Now add some baked beans, some spices, some ground beef, there you go, a healthy meal filled with all nutrients for under £1 per portion.

I actually didn't count in rice as a filler in my £10 for 8 dinner servings.
 

Flipped Gazelle

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Whole grain rice is not unhealthy and usually cheaper than the white worthless rice that most people buy.

It's got fat, protein, minerals and vitamins that is not in white rise, especially not Jasmin or Basmati rice which is basically just starch.

Now add some baked beans, some spices, some ground beef, there you go, a healthy meal filled with all nutrients for under £1 per portion.

I actually didn't count in rice as a filler in my £10 for 8 dinner servings.

Sorry, I should have specified white rice. Around here (NJ, USA), brown rice is nearly 2x the cost of white.

Makin' turkey soup right now, brown rice & all! :D
 
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Sorry, I should have specified white rice. Around here (NJ, USA), brown rice is nearly 2x the cost of white.

Makin' turkey soup right now, brown rice & all! :D

Brown rice as in wild rice or whole grain? WTH would it be more expensive if it's whole grain rice, that makes no sense to me, less refinement should equal a lower price.

But yeah, turkey and rice, there you have a healthy meal, well, that except for the 100% saturated fatty acids in the broth.

I'd probably just eat the turkey parts and mix the broth with some flour, boil it to thicken it and use a little bit of it on the rice.
 

Flipped Gazelle

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Brown rice as in wild rice or whole grain? WTH would it be more expensive if it's whole grain rice, that makes no sense to me, less refinement should equal a lower price.

But yeah, turkey and rice, there you have a healthy meal, well, that except for the 100% saturated fatty acids in the broth.

I'd probably just eat the turkey parts and mix the broth with some flour, boil it to thicken it and use a little bit of it on the rice.

Whole grain. Yeah, I know, it doesn't make any sense that it's more expensive. It should be cheaper, except that in USA mostly white rice is sold, and perhaps the fact that brown (whole grain) rice is considered "healthy", distributors know that they can charge a premium.

Turkey soup - this go around, it's from a turkey breast that has already seen service in a couple of dinners and sandwiches, so the fat content is low. Usually when I make the soup it's with an entire carcass. In that case, after the soup is made, the soup pot spends the night in the refrigerator, and the next day I skim the congealed fat off the top. Soups are great for getting rid of leftovers - for today's soup, I added green beans, carrots, potatoes, onions, brown rice & pasta, besides my usual handful of spices. Oh, and some potato flakes to thicken the broth a tad.
 
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Whole grain. Yeah, I know, it doesn't make any sense that it's more expensive. It should be cheaper, except that in USA mostly white rice is sold, and perhaps the fact that brown (whole grain) rice is considered "healthy", distributors know that they can charge a premium.

Turkey soup - this go around, it's from a turkey breast that has already seen service in a couple of dinners and sandwiches, so the fat content is low. Usually when I make the soup it's with an entire carcass. In that case, after the soup is made, the soup pot spends the night in the refrigerator, and the next day I skim the congealed fat off the top. Soups are great for getting rid of leftovers - for today's soup, I added green beans, carrots, potatoes, onions, brown rice & pasta, besides my usual handful of spices. Oh, and some potato flakes to thicken the broth a tad.

You'll have to excuse me, i thought it was pre-made, the broth from the whole turkey cooked is not nearly as fatty nor as bad, the pre made is concentrated turkey lard molted in water.

That's good eating all around, and god damn you are making me hungry...

That's inexpensive, good eating that won't make you fat nor will it make your T3 go bang or Insulin levels rise more than one step and keep them there for a long time making you feel full long after the food is processed.

Spices are a must, when i became a single father in the mid 90's i learned that real fucking fast, no mother and no wife to cook for me, not all that much money coming in, i actually learned the cheapest recepies that stayed a favourite even when i had more money, both for me and my children.

But i think we actually agree, it's not more expensive to eat healthy than to eat at McDonalds every day.
 

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Anyone who can afford to feed their children junk can affort do feed them good food, what is lacking isn't funds, it's intelligence and effort.

I can cook a healthy meal that will feed a family of four for two dinners for under £10.

Healthy food is DEFINENTLY cheaper than unhealthy food.

I agree that it's partly intelligence and effort to eat healthier. However, it is not cheaper. However, at least here in America, we subsidize certain agricultural commodities like corn and wheat.

In the US you can get a pretty decent size burger from the dollar menu. You can barely buy an apple (which is nutritonally very weak) for the same dollar.
When you factor in the time, cooking energy and waste of purchasing and cooking healthy food, which consists of perishables, its cheaper to eat high cal, high fat, high sugar and highly processed foods, it clearly costs more to eat healthy.
 

zinfamous

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I agree that it's partly intelligence and effort to eat healthier. However, it is not cheaper. However, at least here in America, we subsidize certain agricultural commodities like corn and wheat.

In the US you can get a pretty decent size burger from the dollar menu. You can barely buy an apple (which is nutritonally very weak) for the same dollar.
When you factor in the time, cooking energy and waste of purchasing and cooking healthy food, which consists of perishables, its cheaper to eat high cal, high fat, high sugar and highly processed foods, it clearly costs more to eat healthy.

very true. tasty apples are often more expensive than a fucking McDonald's cheeseburger. I never thought about it that way...and that is sick.
 

BarkingGhostar

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Hmm, everyone says I should be 170 pounds, but I'm actually at 250--and it ain't muscle. Yet, in the past ten years that I have worked for my employer, I have taken two (2) sick days.

And my work performance is around 275%. Hmm, whatever. Fatty and proud of it. I could slim down, become Auschwitzian and all, and then wind up malnourished and taking a lot more sick days, but I think considering I take a sick day once every half decade, stay within my solo-insured boundaries (wife has her own insurance, and we got no kids), I think I am the least of my employer's problem employees.
 

InflatableBuddha

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I wonder how much runners cost companies extra? All those foot, knee problems, etc?

Yeah, I've definitely had trouble limping into the office the day after a Sunday 18 miler, but the extra energy I get seems to offset it.

And somehow, all those colds and flus that go through the office and lay out both the average-weight people and the fatties barely touch me :hmm:.
 

Bateluer

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after class, she ALWAYS goes to Del Taco and orders a supersize combo meal.

If I was the clerk, I'd tap the 'We retain the right to refuse server to anyone' sign and call the next customer. :p

Probably a good thing I don't work in food service any more.
 

Bateluer

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I wonder how much runners cost companies extra? All those foot, knee problems, etc?

As a runner, I can say that I cost my employer nothing. Especially when compared to my obese/overweight co-workers. Individuals hired after I was have already taken multiple sick days. I've taken zero.
 

silverpig

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No it doesn't.

Look, I'm not disputing the premise of the 'study': fat people are a burden on EVERYTHING.
However, some of their extrapolations are far-fetched and the company funding it has a vested interest in making the numbers as large as possible.

An independent researcher at a school has said that the findings are in line with other independent research conducted by other independent labs presumably not funded by gastro-surgery doctors.

If some weight-loss clinic funded some research that supported the law of gravity, it wouldn't make science implode due to one potentially biased report being thrown on top of a pile of independent studies.
 

Flipped Gazelle

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You'll have to excuse me, i thought it was pre-made, the broth from the whole turkey cooked is not nearly as fatty nor as bad, the pre made is concentrated turkey lard molted in water.

That's good eating all around, and god damn you are making me hungry...

That's inexpensive, good eating that won't make you fat nor will it make your T3 go bang or Insulin levels rise more than one step and keep them there for a long time making you feel full long after the food is processed.

Spices are a must, when i became a single father in the mid 90's i learned that real fucking fast, no mother and no wife to cook for me, not all that much money coming in, i actually learned the cheapest recepies that stayed a favourite even when i had more money, both for me and my children.

But i think we actually agree, it's not more expensive to eat healthy than to eat at McDonalds every day.

It's pathetic - really - to see people struggling with income issues buy junk like McD's or even anything from the local diner every day. Poor nutritional value, expensive... gotta brown-bag it. :thumbsup:

I (or anyone) can make a 5 lb pot roast using a Crock Pot for less than what many people spend on lunch every day. o_O

Like you say, spices and seasonings, they go a long way.
 

Ben90

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Its impressive how far out of their ways and out of logical arguments fatties go to protect their lifestyle:
"Healthy food is too expensive, junk food is cheaper"

The cost of food has absolutely nothing to do with your weight. One pound of caviar costs $5000 and one bag of chips costs $5;however, the problem is that you are eating to much. You could eat nothing but pounds and pounds of cheap as fuck ramen and your still going to get fat, just eat less.
 

coreyb

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I work with a ton of these "people", and they all average about 15-20 sick days a year. makes me sick
 

QueBert

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Anyone who can afford to feed their children junk can affort do feed them good food, what is lacking isn't funds, it's intelligence and effort.

I can cook a healthy meal that will feed a family of four for two dinners for under £10.

Healthy food is DEFINENTLY cheaper than unhealthy food.

That's expensive, I can get a box with 24 corn dogs for $7. 2 corn dogs a person per meal I could feed a family of 4 for 3 nights, and that's not even the least expensive unhealthy food I could get. Also that's assuming each of the 4 people eat 2 per meal, I know a lot who would be good with 1. Toss in some Kool Aid and a 10lb bag of potatos to make home fries and realistically I could feed 4 people dinner for 5 nights for slightly under $10.

Eating healthy to the point you're full and stay full is never cheaper than eating unhealthy, it's just a lot healthier.
 
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