Obama's Safe Schools Czar Promoting Porn And Extreme Sex In The Classroom (NSFW)

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jonks

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In this very thread, he states homosexuality is an "extreme sex act" akin to rape, incest, and pedophilia. That destroys any credibility whatsoever.

And in other threads he's compared it to treefucking and beastiality. He lives in the era of Mad Men when there were no gay people. He also loves citing studies, but when someone else (like, say, me) points out that the American Pediatrics Assn, the American Academy of Family Physicians, the American Medical Assocation, and the other leading physician groups all endorse same-sex parenting, he doesn't consider that relevant.
 
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You make an assumption that all kids are rushing to fuck and be fucked, aren't you? As a parent with teenagers, I know many that have taken the perspective that early sex, and attendant exposure to heartbreak, pregnancy and STDs will seriously screw up their lives. Some have continued that perspective even in college.

My kids are in their very late teens (for a couple of days more) and thank god, i have never had to worry about it, they started having safe sex many years ago just like your teens started having unprotected sex or will have unprotected sex because their father is a fucked up bitch who believes in god and country with a stiff upper lip before he ever wants to deal with his children growing up and taking responsibility for them having the sex that they will have.

Congrats when your daughter comes home pregnant or with a VD because you thought YOU were the one in control of her most basal instincts.

I have a very VERY hard time picturing someone as immature and obviously stupid as a parent so i'm going to go ahead and assume that you are 15 and ugly and this whole sheit is about you not being able to attract any girls.
 

PokerGuy

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Sick. Absolutely sick. That's what this country has become. I guess we're getting an up close and personal view of how an empire goes from greatness to crumbling.... it rots from within.
 

Red Dawn

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Sick. Absolutely sick. That's what this country has become. I guess we're getting an up close and personal view of how an empire goes from greatness to crumbling.... it rots from within.
By openly discussing an act that's been practiced behind closed doors ever since this country was founded and before?

When shit like that becomes mainstream then you might have a point.
 
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The liberal position, best expressed by Oprah, is that children are just smaller adults, but with less life experience. Therefore if you want to educate them about fisting (at any age) you are helping them out. It also explains why the very liberal librarian union adamantly opposes porn filtering for their computers. Similarly, if a man buggers a small boy he's just helping that boy to gain valuable life experience (unless he's a priest, then it's evil because religion is involved and religion is always evil, unless it's Islam.)

Actually my biggest complaint is that, like all liberal activities, we are expected to fund it. Whether it's painting the Madonna in elephant dung or soaking a crucifix in a jar of urine or teaching 14 year olds about fisting, it must be done with tax money. At a time when our students are graduating (or dropping out) knowing less than ever, surely this kind of "education" could be reserved for after school, off school grounds, for those kids who want to show up. Johnny probably doesn't need to know the ins and outs (so to speak) of proper fisting nearly as much as he needs to know basic math and science.

You do realise that in a school of thousands at least one kid has seen a fisting video and it will take hours for what he saw to spread to everyone?

They WILL know about it regarless of what you do.

Now if someone much much much much much smarter than you can explain it to them, then that is great for you, for your child and for everyone else.

Pedophelia is something completely different, a fisting act with a non willing participant would not be fisting, it would be rape and perhaps THAT could be compared to pedophelia but just standard fisting? No.

But you are obviously extra special stupid so explaining the obvious is probably a waste of time.
 
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Sick. Absolutely sick. That's what this country has become. I guess we're getting an up close and personal view of how an empire goes from greatness to crumbling.... it rots from within.

You know how to fix it? Become communist Soviet or China and censor information, that way no kids will ever ask about things like fisting.

It's the price you pay for a free society, information is free.
 

PokerGuy

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By openly discussing an act that's been practiced behind closed doors ever since this country was founded and before?

When shit like that becomes mainstream then you might have a point.

Nothing wrong with "openly discussing" stuff like this, but it should not be a part of MANDATORY "education" for children. By legal definition, a 14 year old is a child. Children should be taught enough to protect themselves and make good decisions, there is no need to teach them specific perversions.
 

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A big warning on private schools, they are also far less regulated. My friend works at one of the most prestigious private elementary schools in the US, smack in the heart of La Jolla, one of the richest areas in the country if not the world.

She has her masters from Tufts and her undergrad from Duke, she is highly qualified and an excellent teacher. The teacher across the hall from her was a woman who applied to be the secretary and they decided they needed a new teacher more. She is completely incompetent. A woman like her would never be allowed to teach in the public schools, but in private ones they can get away with it and nearly always nobody is the wiser. Parents pay almost $20,000 a year to have their child taught by a secretary. (a fact the school keeps well hidden) Many private schools provide great education, but much as with public schools the quality varies widely.

As for the rest of this, basically people here are arguing for teachers to refuse to answer adolescents' questions about sex in sex-ed class. I think this is dumb for two reasons, first I think that America makes way too huge a deal out of sex, but more importantly those kids almost certainly have access to the internet and you all know that they can see everything they could dream of asking about and much worse with a few mouse clicks.

Are we censoring their education to make them feel better, or to make us feel better?

I know some secretaries that could be excellent teachers. They are moms, they have seen the inside of the business world in a way you never have, they have an excellent work ethic, are literate and unfailingly control the chaos which swirls around them. And then there are others that would be better off doing something else.

I have found teaching credentials are no guarantee of education, nor of morality, nor of any particular interest in mentoring students. Too many dwell in a world of unfailing welfare liberalism and unionism and they are so bored with teaching core subjects that they curry favor by politically indoctrinating kids. These are people that really should be working at ACORN instead, they would have so much greater job satisfaction.

Sure, America makes too much of sex. But we are not talking about adult sex here, are we?

I posted links to the original WWW sites that broke this story. Have you read the text excerpts? What do these look like to you, in context or not? Want context, maybe you can pick up copies at your local school, your uncensored public library is sure to have lots of copies and, if not, I am pretty sure the local porn shop does. NEA approved! You can read the books over lunch break at school or at the office and show your friends, your co-workers and your boss will be impressed at how educated you are.

Though it must be too subtle for you to comprehend, the point of the OP is that this is about the state sponsored propagation of pedophilia and other practices under the guise of teaching sexual tolerance. Pedophilia is illegal everywhere, last I checked. Pedophiles are generally considered the inmates at highest risk in prison of being killed and are usually segregated to keep them alive. Here, in this forum, we have cheering sections.

The OP points out that we have government funded and forced indoctrination of the very young to libertine approaches to sex. Sounds good to you? I thought so.

Parents may indeed opt to not have their kids attend classes in how to properly administer blow jobs, engage in safe anal fisting, mixed age group sex, how to treat strangers who offer them sex politely and with enthusiasm, how OK it is for four year olds to offer blow jobs to all of their friends and neighbors, but kids are going to run out of those classes and let all of those sitting in the "other" class working on multiplication tables know just what they learned, in detail.

Remember, these practices are being propagated by the books being used in the classes. Real easy for the 12 year old "old enough" for anal fisting instruction to pass on to the nerdy kid whose mom refused to sign off on the blow job class. Real easy to mock that quiet kid that only wants to do her homework until she has not only had to read the book aloud but had to offer the class bully, whose mom never bothers to read those wall o' text class notes, a blow job so that she can get her bra and pants back. Sounds good to you? I thought so.

If you think that this is some kind of joke, try this at home or any place outside the school. Likely when you do, little Johnny, after giving the class a live demo of rimming is going to run to the school guidance counselor and tell Mr. Sex Educator that YOU are physically abusive (just as he was taught!) and the next thing you know it is YOU who will be sitting in a squad car waiting to be booked and fingerprinted for child abuse. Of course your kid will now be under state care and attending weekly counseling sessions where YOU will always be characterized as at fault, being the adult parent and all.

As far as the internet goes, maybe YOU will encourage your kids or even better, your friends' kids, to check out open access to the internet. They will just LOVE going to eskimopie's apartment to surf porn sites. It's ALL educational!

It will be an education to you when the cops bust you for having child porn on your computer and contributing to the delinquency of a minor, and having little Mary Jane, who just got a GLSEN lesson on vaginal fisting in school, testify against you should be an education as well. Maybe her parents will want to have a word or two with you after the hearing, too.

Unionized educators are a protected class, aren't they? You aren't.
 
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Red Dawn

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Nothing wrong with "openly discussing" stuff like this, but it should not be a part of MANDATORY "education" for children. By legal definition, a 14 year old is a child. Children should be taught enough to protect themselves and make good decisions, there is no need to teach them specific perversions.

You think it's different now than back in the 60's? I remember Sex Ed in the 8th grade kids asking pretty out there questions and the instructor answering them. I can only imagine the questions if we had the internet back then.

This faux outrage is typical of the Right Winger Fundi Moral Majority jerkoffs that have hijacked part of the Republican party.
 

Red Dawn

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I know some secretaries that could be excellent teachers. They are moms, they have seen the inside of the business world in a way you never have, they have an excellent work ethic, are literate and unfailingly control the chaos which swirls around them. And then there are others that would be better off doing something else.

I have found teaching credentials are no guarantee of education, nor of morality, nor of any particular interest in mentoring students. Too many dwell in a world of unfailing welfare liberalism and unionism and they are so bored with teaching core subjects that they curry favor by politically indoctrinating kids. These are people that really should be working at ACORN instead, they would have so much greater job satisfaction.

Sure, America makes too much of sex. But we are not talking about adult sex here, are we?

I posted links to the original WWW sites that broke this story. Have you read the text excerpts? What do these look like to you, in context or not? Want context, maybe you can pick up copies at your local school, your uncensored public library is sure to have lots of copies and, if not, I am pretty sure the local porn shop does. NEA approved! You can read the books over lunch break at school or at the office and show your friends, your co-workers and your boss how educated you are.

Though it must be too subtle for you to comprehend, the point of the OP is that this is about the state sponsored propagation of pedophilia and other practices under the guise of teaching sexual tolerance. Pedophilia is illegal everywhere, last I checked. Pedophiles are generally considered the inmates at highest risk in prison of being killed and are usually segregated to keep them alive. Here, in this forum, we have cheering sections.

The OP points out that we have government funded and forced indoctrination of the very young to libertine approaches to sex. Sounds good to you? I thought so.

Parents may indeed opt to not have their kids attend classes in how to properly administer blow jobs, engage in safe anal fisting, mixed age group sex, how to treat strangers who offer them sex politely and with enthusiasm, how OK it is for four year olds to offer blow jobs to all of their friends and neighbors, but kids are going to run out of those classes and let all of those sitting in the "other" class working on multiplication tables know just what they learned, in detail.

Remember, these practices are being propagated by the books being used in the classes. Real easy for the 12 year old "old enough" for anal fisting instruction to pass on to the nerdy kid whose mom refused to sign off on the blow job class. Real easy to mock that quiet kid that only wants to do her homework until she has not only had to read the book aloud but had to offer the class bully, whose mom never bothers to read those wall o' text class notes, a blow job so that she can get her bra and pants back. Sounds good to you? I thought so.

If you think that this is some kind of joke, try this at home or any place outside the school. Likely when you do, little Johnny, after giving the class a live demo of rimming is going to run to the school guidance counselor and tell Mr. Sex Educator that YOU are physically abusive (just as he was taught!) and the next thing you know it is YOU who will be sitting in a squad car waiting to be booked and fingerprinted for child abuse. Of course your kid will now be under state care and attending weekly counseling sessions where YOU will always be characterized as at fault, being the adult parent and all.

As far as the internet goes, maybe YOU will encourage your kids or even better, your friends' kids, to check out open access to the internet. They will just LOVE going to eskimopie's apartment to surf porn sites. It's ALL educational!

It will be an education to you when the cops bust you for having child porn on your computer and contributing to the delinquency of a minor, and having little Mary Jane, who just got a GLSEN lesson on vaginal fisting in school, testify against you should be an education as well. Maybe her parents will want to have a word or two with you after the hearing, too.

Unionized educators are a protected class, aren't they? You aren't.
Man are you full of shit, a lot more full of it that I thought possible.
 

PJABBER

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My kids are in their very late teens (for a couple of days more) and thank god, i have never had to worry about it, they started having safe sex many years ago just like your teens started having unprotected sex or will have unprotected sex because their father is a fucked up bitch who believes in god and country with a stiff upper lip before he ever wants to deal with his children growing up and taking responsibility for them having the sex that they will have.

Congrats when your daughter comes home pregnant or with a VD because you thought YOU were the one in control of her most basal instincts.

I have a very VERY hard time picturing someone as immature and obviously stupid as a parent so i'm going to go ahead and assume that you are 15 and ugly and this whole sheit is about you not being able to attract any girls.

Congrats on your kids not coming home pregnant or carrying STDs... yet. I am sure your openness and constant cursing makes for great pleasantness when you come back from the local pub where you post.

BTW, as you are wont to personalize all of your vitriol, I notice that there are a number of posters here that agree fully with you. Do you think you might send them some pics of your daughters and contact information? I am sure that you would approve of them having intimate relationships with your peers. After all, you are of a kind, aren't you? Like father, like boyfriend? You could treat them to a round of bitter afterward, dear old dad.

You should stick with your fantasy of being in the military doing daring deeds in far off lands.
 
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