Obamacare: now with 100% more flowchart

[soulcougher73]

Right, they are supposed to investigate every claim made? Ha, that's a laugh, and how are they supposed to know that it is a off the shelf test kit vs sending them to a lab? That's just silly, though typical of progressives and their thirst to demonize anyone that makes profit, completely shift responsibility.

I sure would if i was paying someone. I would want to know what i was paying for. Hopefully you never own a business with your attitude. Must be nice when a customer can charge whatever they want for a service with no questions asked.

You are somehow facinated with this progressive and liberal name calling. You do know i vote libertarian right? Or do i need to add that to my sig so some people can keep up with whos who.

 

[xj0hnx]

I sure would if i was paying someone. I would want to know what i was paying for. Hopefully you never own a business with your attitude. Must be nice when a customer can charge whatever they want for a service with no questions asked.

You are somehow facinated with this progressive and liberal name calling. You do know i vote libertarian right?

I don't care how you say you vote, you want to excuse doctors, and patient for their roles so you can blame the evil insurance companies. And if one of our vendors is charging us to much, we drop them, which is what insurance companies should be doing, oh but if they didn't that than people would cry about that cause god knows they gotta be able to stick the bottle of cough syrup, and regular check up visits on the insurance.

 

[soulcougher73]

I don't care how you say you vote, you want to excuse doctors, and patient for their roles so you can blame the evil insurance companies. And if one of our vendors is charging us to much, we drop them, which is what insurance companies should be doing, oh but if they didn't that than people would cry about that cause god knows they gotta be able to stick the bottle of cough syrup, and regular check up visits on the insurance.

When you want to fix something its easier to attack the cause of the problem. In this case the cause of the problem is insurance companies not keeping a check on what things cost, but instead pay out whatever it is drs want to charge for said service. All this does is allow drs to rape them on price which in turn allows the insurance companies to rape us in premiums. Pull your head out of the sand and take off the blinders my friend. This isnt freaking rocket science here.

Like i said must be nice to run a company and allow someone to charge whatever the want to because you refuse to take responsibility and look into the matter of over charging for services.

 

[Slew Foot]

When you want to fix something its easier to attack the cause of the problem. In this case the cause of the problem is insurance companies not keeping a check on what things cost, but instead pay out whatever it is drs want to charge for said service. All this does is allow drs to rape them on price which in turn allows the insurance companies to rape us in premiums. Pull your head out of the sand and take off the blinders my friend. This isnt freaking rocket science here.

Like i said must be nice to run a company and allow someone to charge whatever the want to because you refuse to take responsibility and look into the matter of over charging for services.

Good god you people are so stupid. You can charge an insurance company whatever you want, but at the end of the day, they only pay what their predetermined rate is.

 

[xj0hnx]

When you want to fix something its easier to attack the cause of the problem. In this case the cause of the problem is insurance companies not keeping a check on what things cost, but instead pay out whatever it is drs want to charge for said service. All this does is allow drs to rape them on price which in turn allows the insurance companies to rape us in premiums. Pull your head out of the sand and take off the blinders my friend. This isnt freaking rocket science here.

Like i said must be nice to run a company and allow someone to charge whatever the want to because you refuse to take responsibility and look into the matter of over charging for services.

Right, doctors and patients rip off insurance companies, so it's the insurance companies fault. You must be a blast the local rape support group.

You're right, it isn't rocket science, people demand that every possible cost be charged to insurance, doctors over charge for their services, and procedures, then people cry because it cost too much, and you blame the insurance companies when they pass along those cost to the consumer.

 

[nobodyknows]

Yes, let's move everyone to a system that is already projected to bankrupt our entire government.

Yes, the best health care plan is don't get sick, we all know that, so I guess if the poor people would just die without complaining the problem would be solved.

I thought you were smarter then that?

 

[spidey07]

I sure would if i was paying someone. I would want to know what i was paying for. Hopefully you never own a business with your attitude. Must be nice when a customer can charge whatever they want for a service with no questions asked.

You are somehow facinated with this progressive and liberal name calling. You do know i vote libertarian right? Or do i need to add that to my sig so some people can keep up with whos who.

You do know that every procedure is coded and the max price insurance will pay? Or are you really that naive?

But keep railing on the insurance as the problem there commie.

 

[Jhhnn]

That chart is an abomination, and an attempt to obfuscate. Righties use it the way a drunk uses lampposts- for support rather than illumination.

The truth looks more like this-

http://www.flickr.com/photos/robertpalmer/3743826461/

 

[Modelworks]

The first thing that needs to be done is to stop calling it insurance, it isn't. Insurance is for paying for things that are unexpected not a regularly recurring cost you can't pay. The last time I looked that would be called a loan or going in debt. What we have now is a service that people cannot afford and are essentially using the rob Peter to pay Paul method . It hasn't been health insurance in decades. I hope auto mechanics , carpenters , electricians and more do not catch on or we will be paying premiums for auto repair insurance to have the oil changed. The system has become this entangled mess that nobody really knows how it works.

It is almost like hospitals are just willing to accept that whatever something cost is what it cost. If a hospital needs IV needles and there are only 3 manufacturers of those needles and they all price within a few dollars of each other, then that is the price the hospital pays without questioning why the price is what it is.

In the past if someone made a product and the end result could not justify the cost it didn't matter how unique the product was, the manufacturer would go broke because people would refuse to pay the price. In health care it is like that thinking doesn't apply . They have taken the idea that poor health can lead to death if not managed properly and made it where everything they spend money on can lead to death no matter how trivial so any price is not too high. There is no excuse for something like aspirin costing 10x more in a hospital pharmacy than a retail shelf because the pill in the hospital has to be sold to them from a licensed distributor and the hospital can't purchase the same place as retail.

 

[hal2kilo]

It's a chart by a Texas Republican, pretty much FUD.
Republicans don't understand governing, which is why they can't be trusted with it.

I personally think they purposely created the massive deficits so they could finish the job of 'stangling it in the bathtub'. It's so much fun to demagogue about it now for polical gains.