Obamacare navigators caught telling people to lie on their application

[Incorruptible]

Well, for some reason you continue to believe obummer and his administration despite numerous lies... why shouldn't other people believe someone infinitely more believable like O'Keefe?



Almost as gullible as those who believe something obummer says.

Gotta love the hypocrisy of liberals. This is the same guy who constantly defends obama yet has a problem with O'Keefe.

 

[Matt1970]

Should I believe an individual who has been shown to be blatantly dishonest in the past?

I guess for some people it all depends on if he is telling them something they already want to hear.

I have no doubt that some navigators will give bad info, will be dishonest individuals, etc. I also know that you would have to be pretty fucking stupid to believe James O'Keefe's description of it. I mean, how gullible are you guys?

I guess when he is your liar he is just fine. When they are from Obama they are not lies they are "not complete truths" or "not what he meant to say".

 

[fskimospy]

It is interesting watching you guys desperately search for a way to excuse O'Keefe's documented history of lying to gullible conservatives just like yourselves.

It's almost like you want to be lied to.

 

[ivwshane]

I guess when he is your liar he is just fine. When they are from Obama they are not lies they are "not complete truths" or "not what he meant to say".

So what you are saying is that okeef is your liar?

You righties are so pathetic!

 

[fskimospy]

I guess when he is your liar he is just fine. When they are from Obama they are not lies they are "not complete truths" or "not what he meant to say".

Lol. The absurdity of the comparison aside, even if I totally accept your argument you are trying to say "you're as dumb as me".

Lol.

 

[ivwshane]

It is interesting watching you guys desperately search for a way to excuse O'Keefe's documented history of lying to gullible conservatives just like yourselves.

It's almost like you want to be lied to.

These guys aren't conservative they are nutters, conspiracy theorists, and people who generally suffer from some sort of mental disorder (it's why most of them are on meds). Before the Internet these would be the guys you'd see walking around talking to themselves, they would often stay closed up in their homes/vans/box etc, with the Internet they now have a voice and a way to spread their crazy. Only other crazy people pay attention to them and only other crazy people believe what they are saying which only helps to reinforce their crazy beliefs.

Mental health, it's a serious issue in the US.

 

[Doppel]

Shoot the messenger is illogical. However, if the messenger is a proven liar and regularly dishonest, it is reasonable to shoot him because his message is probably BS. If this kind of thing is going on regularly I would rather see somebody else report it who is generally trustworthy.

 

[Matt1970]

So what you are saying is that okeef is your liar?

You righties are so pathetic!

Do you see me defending okeef like you all defend Obama? You lefties have page after page after page on this forum defending Obama's lies.

 

[zinfamous]

lol @ this thread becoming save the Acorn thread. Yes, lets ignore the fact that the govt appointed navigators are lying, its totally forgivable as its part of the new hip, and politically correct mantra, And while we are at its lets save Acorn's face too as its a part of the same machinery. Continue with this and after another 8 years are Clinton followed by 8 years of Obama, there will be no one the pull the wagon

No one is saying that. Here is what the "ebil libruls" are saying in this thread:

--It's certainly possible that government handlers are lying. That is bad, and people should be held accountable
--O'Keefe is a proven huckster, roundly discredited by many bi-partisan agencies
--Let's go with a credible source when seeking such malfeasance, rather than use the same guy that repeatedly doctored footage in his misguided "sting" against another "ebil librul!" group that was roundly proven and shown to have been engaged in no misdeeds.

Point being--it seems the "evil libruls!" have a stronger burden of proof when it comes to weeding out misdeeds and ensure that justice is adequately dispensed...in this topic, anyway.

 

[Matt1970]

Lol. The absurdity of the comparison aside, even if I totally accept your argument you are trying to say "you're as dumb as me".

Lol.

I wish I could say that, but no one is as dumb as you

 

[PokerGuy]

It is interesting watching you guys desperately search for a way to excuse O'Keefe's documented history of lying to gullible conservatives just like yourselves.

It's almost like you want to be lied to.

O'Keefe is no more of a documented liar than obummer.... It's just that you have blind faith in one so you don't equate the two.

Regardless, even though someone is a documented liar in the past ("you can keep your plan!"), it doesn't mean what they are currently saying is not correct.

 

[ivwshane]

Do you see me defending okeef like you all defend Obama? You lefties have page after page after page on this forum defending Obama's lies.

So you just thought you would bring up Obama because?...what does Obamas credibility have to do with okeefs?

Are you familiar with how message boards work and how discussions, in general work? Because right now your posts have nothing to do with the topic.



You know, you used to be a semi reasonable guy but over the last few months you have gone totally incorruptible, did you change your meds or start seeing a different psychiatrist? Because something has changed.

 

[fskimospy]

O'Keefe is no more of a documented liar than obummer.... It's just that you have blind faith in one so you don't equate the two.

Regardless, even though someone is a documented liar in the past ("you can keep your plan!"), it doesn't mean what they are currently saying is not correct.

Keep deflecting! People reminding you that you're likely falling for the same shit again but this must be ignored.

Someone is telling you something you desperately want to believe, but evil libruls are reminding you that he is a serial liar and nearly identical actions of his in the past have turned out to be deliberately deceptive. Try to find some way to fight back so you don't have to confront this idea. Whatever it takes to preserve the bubble.

 

[Matt1970]

So you just thought you would bring up Obama because?...what does Obamas credibility have to do with okeefs?

Are you familiar with how message boards work and how discussions, in general work? Because right now your posts have nothing to do with the topic.



You know, you used to be a semi reasonable guy but over the last few months you have gone totally incorruptible, did you change your meds or start seeing a different psychiatrist? Because something has changed.

I swear to god I thought Eskimospy was talking about Obama when he said

"Should I believe an individual who has been shown to be blatantly dishonest in the past?

I guess for some people it all depends on if he is telling them something they already want to hear. "

And since when are you the king of keeping things on topic? Aren';t you the undisputed champion of BUT BVUUUUUUSH....

 

[thraashman]

O'Keefe is no more of a documented liar than obummer.... It's just that you have blind faith in one so you don't equate the two.

Regardless, even though someone is a documented liar in the past ("you can keep your plan!"), it doesn't mean what they are currently saying is not correct.

Sure, Obama has been guilty of saying things that were partially true or lies. But O'Keefe has ONLY ever told lies. So pardon me if I don't immediately believe everything he says.

 

[Matt1970]

Sure, Obama has been guilty of saying things that were partially true or lies. But O'Keefe has ONLY ever told lies. So pardon me if I don't immediately believe everything he says.

So everything on his website if bullshit? I don't read his website so you will have to enlighten me.

 

[fskimospy]

I swear to god I thought Eskimospy was talking about Obama when he said

"Should I believe an individual who has been shown to be blatantly dishonest in the past?

I guess for some people it all depends on if he is telling them something they already want to hear. "

Obama has said plenty of lies during his time in office. He has also said plenty of true things. People not take his pronouncements as truth without substantiation. This thread has nothing to do with Obama though, you're just bringing him up because you like the partisan sniping part of political discussion.

So now that I've said that Obama has been a liar on numerous occasions, will you admit that O'Keefe is a serial liar who should not be trusted? If O'Keefe is a serial liar, what do you think that says about this latest production of his?

 

[yllus]

Even if the claims are 100% true, it's kind of hard for me to work up outrage when these navigators are essentially trying to help people get health care at as low a cost as possible. Lying, yes, but helpful lying?

 

[rudeguy]

Even if the claims are 100% true, it's kind of hard for me to work up outrage when these navigators are essentially trying to help people get health care at as low a cost as possible. Lying, yes, but helpful lying?

I'm sorry bout I don't want any dollar I have to lie to get. I really question the morals of some of the people that defend lying, fraud and anything else dishonest just to save a buck.

 

[Matt1970]

Obama has said plenty of lies during his time in office. He has also said plenty of true things. People not take his pronouncements as truth without substantiation. This thread has nothing to do with Obama though, you're just bringing him up because you like the partisan sniping part of political discussion.

So now that I've said that Obama has been a liar on numerous occasions, will you admit that O'Keefe is a serial liar who should not be trusted? If O'Keefe is a serial liar, what do you think that says about this latest production of his?

I love the attempts to stay on topic. So are you making a pledge here not to bring up Bush when people criticize Obama?

 

[Matt1970]

Even if the claims are 100% true, it's kind of hard for me to work up outrage when these navigators are essentially trying to help people get health care at as low a cost as possible. Lying, yes, but helpful lying?

You are ok with them telling people to lie about their income?

 

[fskimospy]

I love the attempts to stay on topic. So are you making a pledge here not to bring up Bush when people criticize Obama?

Your comparison was transparently ridiculous to begin with. Comparing president to president is pretty obviously a better comparison than president to deceptive filmmaker.

You pretty obviously dodged my question so I'll ask it again:

So now that I've said that Obama has been a liar on numerous occasions, will you admit that O'Keefe is a serial liar who should not be trusted? If O'Keefe is a serial liar, what do you think that says about this latest production of his?

 

[monovillage]

Should I believe an individual who has been shown to be blatantly dishonest in the past?

...........

No you shouldn't, never believe one word that fucking asshole Obama says from now on.

 

[ivwshane]

I swear to god I thought Eskimospy was talking about Obama when he said

"Should I believe an individual who has been shown to be blatantly dishonest in the past?

I guess for some people it all depends on if he is telling them something they already want to hear. "

And since when are you the king of keeping things on topic? Aren';t you the undisputed champion of BUT BVUUUUUUSH....

No.


Now that you know he wasn't talking about bush will get back on topic? Or were you just being dishonest again and trying to back track?

 

[Incorruptible]

So you just thought you would bring up Obama because?...what does Obamas credibility have to do with okeefs?

Are you familiar with how message boards work and how discussions, in general work? Because right now your posts have nothing to do with the topic.



You know, you used to be a semi reasonable guy but over the last few months you have gone totally incorruptible, did you change your meds or start seeing a different psychiatrist? Because something has changed.

Oh look! It's the leftist moron. Love the hypocrisy from idiots like you. Someone dares stray away from liberalism and you can't handle it and resort to insults.