Obama working to create unsecured boarder with Mexico

[brycejones]

The proclamation uses the same boundary. Stop making shit up.

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Edit: The proclamation also provides the same access for Border Patrol as they have had in the past. Stop making shit up.

Where is the OP now?

 

[michal1980]

Where is the OP now?

Why do you have some hardon for me?

am I supposed to be in this thread 24/7? Washington times was wrong.

go bitch to them fucker.

 

[davmat787]

In reality this Obama administration has deported more illegal immigrants than any other administration in the history of the US and unlike Reagan who's amnesty bill didn't ask for enforced border the only amnesty bill presented from this admin has been asking FOR enforced borders.

But hasn't the methodology in determining the amount of deportations changed? Therefore Obama's numbers would be lower if the formula of past administrations was used.

https://www.numbersusa.com/content/...stration-inflates-deportation-statistics.html

•The Obama administration has started counting certain “returns” as “removals” in order to artificially inflate the numbers and create a “record level” of deportations. Specifically, those caught by the Border Patrol who are shuttled to a different town along the border before they are returned are being dishonestly counted as deportations. This has falsely increased the number of total removals by more than 100,000 for the past two years.
•In fact, if we count removals and returns together historically, then the Obama administration numbers are not close to “record-setting.” In the 1990s, the totals of returns and removals were well over one million. For example, according to the yearbook of immigration statistics, in 1996, removals and returns numbered more than 1.6 million, up from more than 1.3 million in 1995.

 

[Orignal Earl]

But hasn't the methodology in determining the amount of deportations changed? Therefore Obama's numbers would be lower if the formula of past administrations was used.

https://www.numbersusa.com/content/...stration-inflates-deportation-statistics.html

The terminology has changed as policy has changed, and that's creating some confusion today as to what should count as a deportation.

Over the course of eight years, the George W. Bush administration oversaw 8.3 million returns and 2 million removals.

In the three years between fiscal year 2009 and 2012, most of which was under Obama, there were 1.6 million returns and 1.6 million removals. The Obama administration, from February 2009 to the present, has removed more than 2 million people.


So the combined removals and returns under Bush are much higher than under Obama. But Obama will pass Bush's removals by the end of this year.

The administrations have added to the confusion by emphasizing different statistics. The Bush administration appears to have counted both removals and returns when discussing its immigration enforcement (but doesn't appear to have called them both "deportations"). The Obama administration, by contrast, has counted only removals.

Removals vs returns: how to think about Obama's deportation record

http://www.vox.com/2014/4/11/560227...ortations-a-very-short-history-of-immigration

 

[brycejones]

Why do you have some hardon for me?

am I supposed to be in this thread 24/7? Washington times was wrong.

go bitch to them fucker.

So you finally admit your story is a pile of shit and you've been duped?

 

[CLite]

Why do you have some hardon for me?

am I supposed to be in this thread 24/7? Washington times was wrong.

go bitch to them fucker.

I think you make yourself an easy target by assuming the President of the United States created a wilderness area that accounts for less than 1% of the border length for the purposes of expediting illegal immigration.

When you start a thread with this premise you make yourself look like an imbecile, whether or not the news organization is also idiotic.