Obama with yet another racist Reverend!

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Wheezer

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
You and Glenn Beck have the biggest sticks up your asses ever - get over it - it was meant to be humorous.

so is the joke I told at work today involving a couple of black kids, bikes, and bowling balls.

anyone who would find it offensive has a stick up their ass too.
 

fskimospy

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It's pretty interesting to see the people who decry political correctness the other 364 days of the year bend over backwards to be offended about this.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
It's pretty interesting to see the people who decry any mention of skin color the other 364 days of the year bend over backwards to defend this racist asshole


Corrected for ya.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: eskimospy
It's pretty interesting to see the people who decry any mention of skin color the other 364 days of the year bend over backwards to defend this racist asshole


Corrected for ya.

AHHHH HOISTED ON MY OWN PETARD.

I'm going to stick by my original one though. Watching all the internet/tv tough guys who always try and puff themselves up about how everyone needs to stop whining about everything turn into shrieking, burbling little babies is way funnier, and therefore way more interesting.

Not only that, but this involves Glenn Beck. Watching that moron crap his pants is amazingly satisfying all by itself.
 
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The right's "outrage" over this sentiment as "racist" is as phony as the same people's complaints that Sarah Palin was the victim of "sexism." Grow a pair, ya whiners. If there's nothing wrong with Fox News complaining ad nauseum about the plight of white Christian males and the "war on Christmas," there's sure as hell nothing wrong with these remarks. Merely mentioning race doesn't mean one's comments are racist.
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: wetech
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
You and Glenn Beck have the biggest sticks up your asses ever - get over it - it was meant to be humorous.

Picture this at a Republican inauguration, and a line something like "black can get on track" and see how many people think it's funny.
Yeah...that would be a real hoot. This double standard crap is getting old.

When the entire Republican field of front runner presidential candidates isn't "too busy" to debate before a minority audience on issues important to minorities, maybe then the double standard will ease.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: wetech
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
You and Glenn Beck have the biggest sticks up your asses ever - get over it - it was meant to be humorous.

Picture this at a Republican inauguration, and a line something like "black can get on track" and see how many people think it's funny.
Yeah...that would be a real hoot. This double standard crap is getting old.
Well it's true there is a double standard. Most Blacks either have been discriminated or know someone personally whose been discriminated by Whites where as the vast majority of whites have never been discriminated by blacks, at least to the point where they were made to feel less equal.

Now that's the real Double Standard and I believe that's why only those looking for a bone to pick are upset with what the Reverend said.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: wetech
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
You and Glenn Beck have the biggest sticks up your asses ever - get over it - it was meant to be humorous.

Picture this at a Republican inauguration, and a line something like "black can get on track" and see how many people think it's funny.
Yeah...that would be a real hoot. This double standard crap is getting old.

When the entire Republican field of front runner presidential candidates isn't "too busy" to debate before a minority audience on issues important to minorities, maybe then the double standard will ease.

What I can't understand is the willful blindness to circumstance and connotation. A Jewish person can make deprecating comments about Jews that won't draw any alarm, but if a Neo-Nazi made the same comments it would. (no, Republicans aren't Nazis... blah blah blah) Are people here truly attempting to say that they don't understand why this would be? Is this some sort of autism convention?
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: Socio
Is This How the Post-Racial Obama Administration Begins?

Martin Luther King's dream has come to life. Or at least I thought so.

However, it was another minister ? Reverend Joseph Lowery ? who used his benediction, to ask God for this:

"We ask you to help us work for that day when black will not be asked to give back, when brown can stick around, when yellow will be mellow, when the red man can get ahead, man, and when white will embrace what is right."

Is this how the post-racial Obama administration begins? That someday the brown can stick around, the yellow can remain mellow, and the white will embrace what's right?

Even at the inauguration of a black president, we are being called racist.

Mr. President ? I want to believe. I want to trust. I want to hope for change ? but I am really failing to see how this is any different.

USA Today reports that you smiled when he said this and shook your head. And it's not like you didn't know what you were getting yourself into.

I can?t believe he let that racist ?blame whitey? bag of crap ever open his mouth!

Is this what we can expect over the next four years, with a president who just can?t seem to grasp not everything is the ?White? mans fault or simply refuses to distance from those with the belief that it is?

If it is you better believe racial tensions will be at the highest point in recent history by the time he is run out of office.

What amazes me is that conservatives can call liberals "hypersensitive" and then go on to complain about something like this without realizing the hypocrisy.

Of all the things to critique Obama for (and there are always some legitimate critiques for any politician), this doesn't even register on the radar scale. I disagree with Obama on plenty of issues, but to call out something like this as "racism" is ridiculous.

Of course, if the traditional conservatives want to make fools out of themselves like this, it's fine with me. It just means more momentum will be gathered by the libertarian wing and the long-overdue restructuring of the Republican Party will happen sooner.

ZV
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: wetech
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
You and Glenn Beck have the biggest sticks up your asses ever - get over it - it was meant to be humorous.

Picture this at a Republican inauguration, and a line something like "black can get on track" and see how many people think it's funny.
Yeah...that would be a real hoot. This double standard crap is getting old.

When the entire Republican field of front runner presidential candidates isn't "too busy" to debate before a minority audience on issues important to minorities, maybe then the double standard will ease.

What I can't understand is the willful blindness to circumstance and connotation. A Jewish person can make deprecating comments about Jews that won't draw any alarm, but if a Neo-Nazi made the same comments it would. (no, Republicans aren't Nazis... blah blah blah) Are people here truly attempting to say that they don't understand why this would be? Is this some sort of autism convention?
As a step parent of an autistic boy I'm outraged you'd insult autistic people by comparing them with these fools.

How's that for feigned outrage??:shocked:;)
 
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Originally posted by: eskimospy

What I can't understand is the willful blindness to circumstance and connotation. A Jewish person can make deprecating comments about Jews that won't draw any alarm, but if a Neo-Nazi made the same comments it would. (no, Republicans aren't Nazis... blah blah blah) Are people here truly attempting to say that they don't understand why this would be? Is this some sort of autism convention?

What it is, is the reactions of a generation of Republicans raised on Limbaugh/Counter/Hannity/Malkin faux outrage and hypersensitivity to views that fall outside their own perspectives. Apparently it's not "racist" to complain that white males are negatively affected by affirmative action, but it IS "racist" to point out that people of color face challenges different from those faced by white people. Great . . .

Actually I think one of Obama's most positive qualities is his willingness to engage in discussions of race in a non-accusatory way that doesn't involve a hair-trigger sensitivity to perceived "racism." A good example is the way he not only defended Joe Biden after Biden's inadvertently stupid comments about Obama being "clean," and indeed picking him as his running mate. If Biden had said something similar about Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson they'd have called for his head. Obama really has the potential to advance true equality among races in a way nobody since Reverend King has IMO.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Originally posted by: eskimospy

What I can't understand is the willful blindness to circumstance and connotation. A Jewish person can make deprecating comments about Jews that won't draw any alarm, but if a Neo-Nazi made the same comments it would. (no, Republicans aren't Nazis... blah blah blah) Are people here truly attempting to say that they don't understand why this would be? Is this some sort of autism convention?

What it is, is the reactions of a generation of Republicans raised on Limbaugh/Counter/Hannity/Malkin faux outrage and hypersensitivity to views that fall outside their own perspectives. Apparently it's not "racist" to complain that white males are negatively affected by affirmative action, but it IS "racist" to point out that people of color face challenges different from those faced by white people. Great . . .

Actually I think one of Obama's most positive qualities is his willingness to engage in discussions of race in a non-accusatory way that doesn't involve a hair-trigger sensitivity to perceived "racism." A good example is the way he not only defended Joe Biden after Biden's inadvertently stupid comments about Obama being "clean," and indeed picking him as his running mate. If Biden had said something similar about Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson they'd have called for his head. Obama really has the potential to advance true equality among races in a way nobody since Reverend King has IMO.


Obama also has engaged in harsh criticism of the Black segment of society when it's been warranted. Take for example his scathing criticism of Black Fathers who don't support their children. That's the even that caused the "Reverend" Jesse Jackson to utter he'd cut off Obama's balls.
 
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Obama also has engaged in harsh criticism of the Black segment of society when it's been warranted. Take for example his scathing criticism of Black Fathers who don't support their children. That's the even that caused the "Reverend" Jesse Jackson to utter he'd cut off Obama's balls.

Agreed. Notably, I don't recall hearing any whining on Fox News about those comments as "racist."
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Obama also has engaged in harsh criticism of the Black segment of society when it's been warranted. Take for example his scathing criticism of Black Fathers who don't support their children. That's the even that caused the "Reverend" Jesse Jackson to utter he'd cut off Obama's balls.

Agreed. Notably, I don't recall hearing any whining on Fox News about those comments as "racist."
Being half Black Obama's in a unique position to be frank when it comes to race, especially with the Black Segment of Society. Not even Bill Clinton was able to do that. I'm sure that in the next 8 years he will say some things that will piss of the "Reverends" Jackson and Sharpton.

 
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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: wetech
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
You and Glenn Beck have the biggest sticks up your asses ever - get over it - it was meant to be humorous.

Picture this at a Republican inauguration, and a line something like "black can get on track" and see how many people think it's funny.
Yeah...that would be a real hoot. This double standard crap is getting old.

When the entire Republican field of front runner presidential candidates isn't "too busy" to debate before a minority audience on issues important to minorities, maybe then the double standard will ease.
You missed my point entirely...you're trying to frame this as a partisan issue...it's not. You know...I'm not outraged by this stupid comment as some might suggest...I just thought it was inappropriate and am disappointed...that's all. Clearly if the tables were turned it would be obvious as pointed out by wetech's post...but objectivity is a rare commodity here. Personally I wish he was just making a joke as some have said...but I think not.
 

Red Dawn

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This ought to send some of you Wingnuts through the roof but a commentator said that those words were part of the "Black National Anthem" from back in the 60's during the Civil Rights movement.
 
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
This ought to send some of you Wingnuts through the roof but a commentator said that those words were part of the "Black National Anthem" from back in the 60's during the Civil Rights movement.
That makes sense...those words sound appropriate to that time. But hell...it's 45 years later and we just elected our first black President. IMO...those words are not appropriate today...it's time to move on.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
This ought to send some of you Wingnuts through the roof but a commentator said that those words were part of the "Black National Anthem" from back in the 60's during the Civil Rights movement.
That makes sense...those words sound appropriate to that time. But hell...it's 45 years later and we just elected our first black President. IMO...those words are not appropriate today...it's time to move on.
Actually it was very appropriate when you think how far we've come since those days just like the mention of MLK and his "I've got a Dream" speech. Lowery was talking about his experience and his thoughts, not those of Obama.



 

sandorski

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A year ago, someone seems to have redefined the term "Racist" and forgot to send out the Memo. Racism is about Superiority and/or Exclusion. Mere mention of Race is not Racism.
 
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
This ought to send some of you Wingnuts through the roof but a commentator said that those words were part of the "Black National Anthem" from back in the 60's during the Civil Rights movement.
That makes sense...those words sound appropriate to that time. But hell...it's 45 years later and we just elected our first black President. IMO...those words are not appropriate today...it's time to move on.
Actually it was very appropriate when you think how far we've come since those days just like the mention of MLK and his "I've got a Dream" speech. Lowery was talking about his experience and his thoughts, not those of Obama.
I never attributed that comment to Obama nor inferred it reflected his thoughts (don't know why you said that:confused:) and we'll just have to disagree on the appropriateness of the comment I guess.
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Left wingers are a bunch of petty sore losers with no plan for this country except bashing Bush. Gonna be a minority party for a long time, thankfully.

The Republicans from 2000 called, they want their rhetoric back.
 
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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
This ought to send some of you Wingnuts through the roof but a commentator said that those words were part of the "Black National Anthem" from back in the 60's during the Civil Rights movement.
That makes sense...those words sound appropriate to that time. But hell...it's 45 years later and we just elected our first black President. IMO...those words are not appropriate today...it's time to move on.

Strange... that's exactly the way I feel about the US National Anthem. I mean, come on, it's a poem about the War of 1812, how much relevance does that have today? I don't think it's appropriate to have nonsense about bombs exploding in the National Anthem; it sends the wrong message. And honestly, we've had 11 major wars since then. It's time to move on.
 

Nemesis 1

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I really don't see why you guys are doing this one to the other. This problem won't go away. Until YOU choose to say enough is enough . Stop the Hate. Instead maybe you white racist should . Do some history work . Blacks in America worked hard to build america sadly alot under slavery. They built america with whites they died defending america they have made hugh contributions to AMerica in the arts and sciences. So whitey stop hating,

Black raciest . Stop your dam whinning. You act like your the only abused people that lived . Its over so get over it. Look what blacks have done to native Americans. Your as guilty as we are. Oh . but whitey forced me. NO you had a choice and you chose path of least resistance so cut the crap . because thats what it is. There have been alot of White slaves. I won't say more than black . But the numbers would be interesting. You act like we as if whites don't understand the pain and humility of slavery . If you believe that your an idiot.

Whitey doesn't whine about it , They pick themselves up and try to make things better threw great effort. Withoout whining. Hell the White slave will rebell on his own without fear of certain death . Better to die a freeman than live as a slave. These words came from a white slave. ROman slave revolt. Try to comprehend that please.

Just choose to live in peace and love one for the other , While our at it make the choice to threw done weapons> Following leadership like sheep . SAy no we aren't fighting no more, If you leaders want to fight . Have at it, Put your lives at risk . The rest of the world will gladly watch ya go at it, But than you in reality would be fighting against yourself.

We have the internet we can all say NO at the same exact time . Its your Choice,

So rather than this family here on this forum. Bebate these issues. angring each other.

Talk about less painfull issues. Things YOU can actually do something about. Talking about these issues only cause hurt and anger.


Or you guys can set back and watch the show. Do think ROTHACHILDS can let me talk like I do about them in public. No they can't . I want the bastards dead. But thats just me. Wanting something and actually doing something is 2 differant things. I would never harm anyone . In the manner of lawlessness. Gods law. I can't break those neither can anyone else. But I can call a rat a rat . and Rocthschild is the biggest RAT of all .

What I said about throwing down your weapons. What if guys in the military started to do just that . After hereing a common sense idea thats been around along time.
Do think governments would allow that Idea to spread, Not a chance .

This thread is about racist /slavery/ power/ ignorance ect ect ect..

Theres guys here that think there pertty smart. If your smart would you agree that your a slave right now. You are. You have no argument against this at all. ZERO you are in an indefensable position. You do what your told even the whole while denyimg it saying your a free man. Ya make me sick. Somebody has to just say NO and take a position that can,t be breathed. I have done that . In public the logic is flawless. I will not do what I am told to do . Its MY choice and I choice to live in the light of the LORD CHRIST.

I choose to Die a freeman who has choice than to be a slave to the establishment . I say you have failed. I say you bring nothong but misery. I say Rothschild is the biggest source of that misery,

So cowardly beast come get some . Come yourself show the world I lieing about your scum family . Rothschild I know your not the great servant. You would need a ladder to touch its belly. Your the lowest scum on this planet . Prove Iam SLANDERING you . Because this is being written here 1 time today. The web is hugh I am going to post were ever I am Aloud . I am calling you out. I am saying you shouldn''t be allowed to breath the same air we us. You have to Act . Than you have to prove I am slandering your Family ya bunch of inbreeders. Your most powerful man on earth and I am spitting on you in public . Come gets some. You can't cause I am speaking true. So yjat leaves ya ! option boogyman. Bring it. Better Idea Rothschild bring me trial in jerusalem .

Its over you evil bastard ya lost. Adams alive and you can't do a freaking thing about it . LOSER. So lets finish this thing , Whats wrong Rocthschild does the Idea of living sound better to you now. You lost and your the one going to suffer for all time . All the while MAN raised himself up threw the word. Its over. MAN won threw the blood of Christ and Adam made it safely. So lets finish this, Man has suffered enough because of you .

You have to bring my slander to justic if its slander, I will stand trial in Israel . That new court house of your works good for me. Hell it gives you all the cards to deal . I am in this hand. I don't need to read my cards I stand pat. Come On Rothschild. Evil scum. Ya know what I would liketo tell people about you and Hitler Churchill. Murdering your own people.That was your money I smelt. You think because your hand played know part in your Evil that your not resposiable. Thats not how its played and NO rational peron would think difrferantly . Your money your guilt. That fact you held back your own hand is because your A coward. You think you can move hugh amonents of money around to finance war and not be guilty . So who forced you . Or plead I didn't know what was going to happen . YOUR court will see it how you say . But your money your responstable,

Me and you in court SCUM/ MURDER OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN/






 
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Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
I really don't see why you guys are doing this one to the other. This problem won't go away. Until YOU choose to say enough is enough . Stop the Hate. Instead maybe you white racist should . Do some history work . Blacks in America worked hard to build america sadly alot under slavery. They built america with whites they died defending america they have made hugh contributions to AMerica in the arts and sciences. So whitey stop hating,

Black raciest . Stop your dam whinning. You act like your the only abused people that lived . Its over so get over it. Look what blacks have done to native Americans. Your as guilty as we are. Oh . but whitey forced me. NO you had a choice and you chose path of least resistance so cut the crap . because thats what it is. There have been alot of White slaves. I won't say more than black . But the numbers would be interesting. You act like we as if whites don't understand the pain and humility of slavery . If you believe that your an idiot.

Whitey doesn't whine about it , They pick themselves up and try to make things better threw great effort. Withoout whining. Hell the White slave will rebell on his own without fear of certain death . Better to die a freeman than live as a slave. These words came from a white slave. ROman slave revolt. Try to comprehend that please.

Just choose to live in peace and love one for the other , While our at it make the choice to threw done weapons> Following leadership like sheep . SAy no we aren't fighting no more, If you leaders want to fight . Have at it, Put your lives at risk . The rest of the world will gladly watch ya go at it, But than you in reality would be fighting against yourself.

We have the internet we can all say NO at the same exact time . Its your Choice,

So rather than this family here on this forum. Bebate these issues. angring each other.

Talk about less painfull issues. Things YOU can actually do something about. Talking about these issues only cause hurt and anger.


Or you guys can set back and watch the show. Do think ROTHACHILDS can let me talk like I do about them in public. No they can't . I want the bastards dead. But thats just me. Wanting something and actually doing something is 2 differant things. I would never harm anyone . In the manner of lawlessness. Gods law. I can't break those neither can anyone else. But I can call a rat a rat . and Rocthschild is the biggest RAT of all .

What I said about throwing down your weapons. What if guys in the military started to do just that . After hereing a common sense idea thats been around along time.
Do think governments would allow that Idea to spread, Not a chance .

This thread is about racist /slavery/ power/ ignorance ect ect ect..

Theres guys here that think there pertty smart. If your smart would you agree that your a slave right now. You are. You have no argument against this at all. ZERO you are in an indefensable position. You do what your told even the whole while denyimg it saying your a free man. Ya make me sick. Somebody has to just say NO and take a position that can,t be breathed. I have done that . In public the logic is flawless. I will not do what I am told to do . Its MY choice and I choice to live in the light of the LORD CHRIST.

I choose to Die a freeman who has choice than to be a slave to the establishment . I say you have failed. I say you bring nothong but misery. I say Rothschild is the biggest source of that misery,

So cowardly beast come get some . Come yourself show the world I lieing about your scum family . Rothschild I know your not the great servant. You would need a ladder to touch its belly. Your the lowest scum on this planet . Prove Iam SLANDERING you . Because this is being written here 1 time today. The web is hugh I am going to post were ever I am Aloud . I am calling you out. I am saying you shouldn''t be allowed to breath the same air we us. You have to Act . Than you have to prove I am slandering your Family ya bunch of inbreeders. Your most powerful man on earth and I am spitting on you in public . Come gets some. You can't cause I am speaking true. So yjat leaves ya ! option boogyman. Bring it. Better Idea Rothschild bring me trial in jerusalem .

Its over you evil bastard ya lost. Adams alive and you can't do a freaking thing about it . LOSER. So lets finish this thing , Whats wrong Rocthschild does the Idea of living sound better to you now. You lost and your the one going to suffer for all time . All the while MAN raised himself up threw the word. Its over. MAN won threw the blood of Christ and Adam made it safely. So lets finish this, Man has suffered enough because of you .

You have to bring my slander to justic if its slander, I will stand trial in Israel . That new court house of your works good for me. Hell it gives you all the cards to deal . I am in this hand. I don't need to read my cards I stand pat. Come On Rothschild. Evil scum. Ya know what I would liketo tell people about you and Hitler Churchill. Murdering your own people.That was your money I smelt. You think because your hand played know part in your Evil that your not resposiable. Thats not how its played and NO rational peron would think difrferantly . Your money your guilt. That fact you held back your own hand is because your A coward. You think you can move hugh amonents of money around to finance war and not be guilty . So who forced you . Or plead I didn't know what was going to happen . YOUR court will see it how you say . But your money your responstable,

Me and you in court SCUM/ MURDER OF WOMEN AND CHILDREN/

How is babby formed?
 

WA261

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Originally posted by: wetech
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
You and Glenn Beck have the biggest sticks up your asses ever - get over it - it was meant to be humorous.

Picture this at a Republican inauguration, and a line something like "black can get on track" and see how many people think it's funny.

NO doubt..Dems and blacks would be freaking the fk out.