Obama, the great uniter of the nation, at it again.

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SammyJr

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And Obama ended the wars, as promised? Or was that just another blown campaing promise, kinda like the whole CSPAN/transparency thing, or the whole closing Gitmo thing, or the whole soon to be not raising taxes thing? You were fooled with false promises.

Not fooled. I didn't really expect him to live up to many of his promises. After all, he is a politician. On the other hand, McCain's idea of a stimulus would have been to invade Iran and saber rattle with Russia, all while cutting taxes for the wealthy and ignoring the health care issue.

I voted for the lesser of two evils.
 

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Lifer
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Where did anyone say anything about "white rights groups"? What is being discussed here is who is allowed to explicitly identify by race or ethnicity groups of voters without being accused of being racist and whether a double standard exists in regarding that.

They're inextricably linked. There's an historical reason you're called racist for one thing and not the other; the playing fields and contexts aren't the same. Think long and hard why there aren't any openly proud white rights groups in the U.S., and why there are tons of black rights groups (and other ethnicities) in the U.S. Once you research that, make the next progression in logic and think about how that is linked to identifying oneself with a race.
 

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Or maybe I do and figured that you could seperate the hyperbole from reality and discuss the fact that there is a double standard used by the media when covering statments like the one Obama made. As for the smell I suspect that depends entirely on which side of the fence you happen to find yourself on.

I can discuss that quite well, but I generally loathe comments filled with hyperbole.. as yours was (and I initially indicated). It's a poor way to start or continue a discussion.
 

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Where did anyone say anything about "white rights groups"? What is being discussed here is who is allowed to explicitly identify by race or ethnicity groups of voters without being accused of being racist and whether a double standard exists in regarding that.

There is a double standard, anyone who doesn't acknowledge that is choosing to be ignorant. That still doesn't change the fact that this really isn't a racist statement. He's just pandering to the people he listed because they are his key support demographics, he's not trying to talk down white middle class males like none of them helped him get into office.
 

Linflas

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There is a double standard, anyone who doesn't acknowledge that is choosing to be ignorant. That still doesn't change the fact that this really isn't a racist statement. He's just pandering to the people he listed because they are his key support demographics, he's not trying to talk down white middle class males like none of them helped him get into office.

If you look back through all my posts in this thread not once have I said I thought it was a racist statement. Unlike certain elements I do not toss around the term racist for every single comment made involving race that I disagree with or as a way to slander groups of people with whom I have political disagreements. My comments regarding this have been all about the double standards involved.
 

HomerJS

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Some people will latch onto any little thing to bitch about Obama. Any of you same people complain when Sarah Palin during campaign called her crowds "The Real America", making all those non-lilly white stops the bogus parts of America.