Obama supports the Constitutional Right of Mosque being built near WTC

[Jaskalas]

And you're suggesting that WE have a right to decide who uses that specific location...

Is this Mosque at this location not something you think can be protested?

 

[Jaskalas]

Exactly how do you want them to "prove it"?
Please prove to me YOUR loyalty, or your church's loyalty and patriotism. Show me.

My point is that YOU are not sufficient for speaking for them. This began with the thought that they aren't the radical type. I beg to differ as they've shown nothing to the contrary.

 

[Engineer]

Is this Mosque at this location not something you think can be protested?

Sure can. Freedom of assembly. You can protest anything (peacefully and not infringing on the rights of others) all you want. The Constitution even gives you this right.

Oh, and by all means, I think you and the others should go out and protest the hell out of these people. Maybe it would do good toward your cause.

 

[piasabird]

You must bow down to your Muslim Master.

 

[Red Dawn]

You must bow down to your Muslim Master.

Could be worse, could be Mormon Masters.
Their beliefs are just as whacked if not more.

 

[xj0hnx]

Then I support the right for all of your neighbors to carry (or even have in your home) the machine gun (or any gun) but I do not support your right to carry one (unless they think like you) because I don't like the way you think. :sneaky:

If they are looking for the government to buy them their ammo neither do I.

 

[classy]

Here is the truth of the matter. They have a legal right, no question. A constitutional right, no question. But the truth is if they truly loved this country, sympathized with their fellow citizens, and were truly disgusted with the act perpetrated there, they wouldn't build there. They wouldn't do it.

 

[Homerboy]

Could be worse, could be Mormon Masters.
Their beliefs are just as whacked if not more.

This is true... sad as I know A LOT of really good Mormon people. Just tied up in ugly religion.

 

[Engineer]

If they are looking for the government to buy them their ammo neither do I.

Explain? What does the government buying have to do with this? Is there money from the government going to this or something (that I don't know about)?

 

[Engineer]

Here is the truth of the matter. They have a legal right, no question. A constitutional right, no question. But the truth is if they truly loved this country, sympathized with their fellow citizens, and were truly disgusted with the act perpetrated there, they wouldn't build there. They wouldn't do it.

BINGO...and I fully think that everyone who feels this way strongly enough, go exercise your RIGHT to assembly and protest the hell out of it.

 

[Red Dawn]

Is this Mosque at this location not something you think can be protested?

Nah protest away, it's your Constitutional right to do so.

 

[Red Dawn]

Here is the truth of the matter. They have a legal right, no question. A constitutional right, no question. But the truth is if they truly loved this country, sympathized with their fellow citizens, and were truly disgusted with the act perpetrated there, they wouldn't build there. They wouldn't do it.

There you go, I totally agree with you. I'm glad you came to your senses.

 

[waggy]

Here is the truth of the matter. They have a legal right, no question. A constitutional right, no question. But the truth is if they truly loved this country, sympathized with their fellow citizens, and were truly disgusted with the act perpetrated there, they wouldn't build there. They wouldn't do it.

i hope they have people standing outside it every day with signs saying what happened on 9/11 and why they are angry with the mosgue.

 

[khon]

Here is the truth of the matter. They have a legal right, no question. A constitutional right, no question. But the truth is if they truly loved this country, sympathized with their fellow citizens, and were truly disgusted with the act perpetrated there, they wouldn't build there. They wouldn't do it.

That's only true if you accept the notion that all muslims are guilty by assosciation when it comes to 9-11.

But I don't accept that notion, and I see no reason why they should either.

 

[xj0hnx]

Explain? What does the government buying have to do with this? Is there money from the government going to this or something (that I don't know about)?

I guess you missed the interview I posted with the spokesman from the mosque ...

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/08/12/interview-with-ground-zero-mosque-spokesman/

When asked about funding he says ..."We are looking at State money, local money, federal dollars, potentially Homeland Security money, we're look at putting together terrorist abatement programming""

 

[Engineer]

I guess you missed the interview I posted with the spokesman from the mosque ...

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/08/12/interview-with-ground-zero-mosque-spokesman/

When asked about funding he says ..."We are looking at State money, local money, federal dollars, potentially Homeland Security money, we're look at putting together terrorist abatement programming""

I don't want any of my money go to any of the churches. With that being said, this isn't the real reason you are against them building there. I can just about bet you would be OK any other church building there, money or not. If these people did all of their own funding, would you still feel that they should not have the "right" to build there?

 

[First]

It's only because it's a mosque, and not a church, that there's an uproar, and knowing this pretty indisputable reality, it's a very clearcut case of anti-Muslim bigotry and/or run-of-the-mill ignorance about what Islam is that's causing this rather overblown uproar.

 

[xj0hnx]

I don't want any of my money go to any of the churches. With that being said, this isn't the real reason you are against them building there. I can just about bet you would be OK any other church building there, money or not. If these people did all of their own funding, would you still feel that they should not have the "right" to build there?

I never said that's why I am against them building it there. I am against it because I think it is hugely insensitive to those that died, the survivors and their families, and America in general to build an Islamic cultural center, and mosque in such close proximity to the worst act of terrorism ever, perpetrated by followers of radical Islam. Sorry, but it's just a fact that a church, or synagogue wouldn't be an insult to their memories.

 

[Engineer]

I never said that's why I am against them building it there. I am against it because I think it is hugely insensitive to those that died, the survivors and their families, and America in general to build an Islamic cultural center, and mosque in such close proximity to the worst act of terrorism ever, perpetrated by followers of radical Islam. Sorry, but it's just a fact that a church, or synagogue wouldn't be an insult to their memories.

Well, I agree that it's an insult (as I've already stated). That's where I'm leaving it....they have the right to build there just like any other religious organization. You are welcome fully to protest if you wish.

Just to be clear, I thought that you said they should not have the right to build there, not that "it's my opinion" that they should not build there. That sounds about what Obama has stated...they have the right but I'm not saying that it's a good idea. :hmm:

 

[First]

I never said that's why I am against them building it there. I am against it because I think it is hugely insensitive to those that died, the survivors and their families, and America in general to build an Islamic cultural center, and mosque in such close proximity to the worst act of terrorism ever, perpetrated by followers of radical Islam. Sorry, but it's just a fact that a church, or synagogue wouldn't be an insult to their memories.

Neither is a mosque since Islam had nothing to do with 9/11, it was a radical sect of Islam and nothing more. Few people against this mosque would honestly be against building churches near the site of a Christian terrorist bombing in the U.S. if it were to ever occur. No one would be against building a church near the Centennial Olympic Park, cite of an extremist Christian motivated bombing in the 96 summer olympics by Eric Robert Rudolph. People disturbed by a mosque near the site of 9/11 either have a fundamental misunderstanding of the motivation behind the attacks or simply are anti-Islam. And I bet you virtually none of them have read a single word of the Quran.

 

[nick1985]

Islam had nothing to do with 9/11

lol

 

[First]

^ You laugh a lot for a guy with nothing to contribute. Wish you and spidey hadn't pussied out of that Angle-Reid bet, would've had a cool $10K!

 

[BoomerD]

I never said that's why I am against them building it there. I am against it because I think it is hugely insensitive to those that died, the survivors and their families, and America in general to build an Islamic cultural center, and mosque in such close proximity to the worst act of terrorism ever, perpetrated by followers of radical Islam. Sorry, but it's just a fact that a church, or synagogue wouldn't be an insult to their memories.

Ah...but remember...it's the Jews' fault that they attacked.



(I still think Mossad was behind it!)


IF this mosque was being built on the grounds of the WTT, I could understand the anger...but it's not...it's being built two blocks away. Is ALL of Manhattan now too sacred to permit the building of a mosque?

 

[xj0hnx]

Ah...but remember...it's the Jews' fault that they attacked.



(I still think Mossad was behind it!)

:awe:

IF this mosque was being built on the grounds of the WTT, I could understand the anger...but it's not...it's being built two blocks away. Is ALL of Manhattan now too sacred to permit the building of a mosque?

Nope, as a matter of fact they were offered property to build it somewhere else in town and refused. I don't know exactly where, but I was lead to believe it was still not too far away.

 

[CitizenKain]

Here is the truth of the matter. They have a legal right, no question. A constitutional right, no question. But the truth is if they truly loved this country, sympathized with their fellow citizens, and were truly disgusted with the act perpetrated there, they wouldn't build there. They wouldn't do it.

So if they love their country so much, they should essentially get the fuck is what you are saying.