obama successfully reaches across to Republicans.

[BoberFett]

Too bad the republicans were calling him a socialist while the democrats were bashing him for not being democrat enough. He's been the most right leaning of the democrat presidents in recent history, yet you have idiots frothing at the mouth about how he's a Kenyan muslim socialist.

I would think the Republicans would glad to see a democrat acting like a republican, but you just can't please some people.

LOL, I would love for you to dig out some quotes of Democrats bashing Obama. You know the reason Republicans make fun of by calling him the Messiah is because Democrats made him out to be.

And I'm not a Republican nor did I ever think he was a Kenyan Muslim but keep on deflecting, that's what Democrats do best.

 

[rudder]

If a republican like McCain suggests the exact same thing, it's ok, but if it's Obama, since he's the big "O'bummer" bad black man, suddenly the exact same idea is horrible?

Try thinking outside the box for a change.

Aiding extremist Muslims (al Qaeda) is a bad idea. It is horrifying that children are getting gassed (and no oneis still 100% sure what happened)... But replacing Assad with extremists will do nothing to help the situation.

 

[dainthomas]

No kidding, literally chucking at people saying how our Dear Leader "became" this.....



And I LOVE the nooooooooooo it's not war, it's not an offensive thing, it's just a "degrade and deter" that's all it is, degrade and deter.


And his little minions will lap it up, I'm sure.

When did all the conservatives on here turn into peace loving hippies?

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Yup.... Logically disagree with some of what our Dealer Leader is doing?


OMG you all just think he's a socialist muslim kenyan STOP ASKING ABOUT THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!!!!!


.....Meanwhile they ignore everything that was said in the discussion.

 

[boomerang]

Four and a half years in and the defenders are still defending. Love is blind I guess.

 

[Fern]

Congress hasn't voted yet. Just because Boehner signed on doesn't mean the rest will.

There's plenty of time for people to harass their Congresspersons into voting this down.

And I have to wonder what 'goodies' Obama is handing out to get this backing; after all, this IS Washington DC.

Fern

 

[MiniDoom]

When did all the liberals on here turn into warmongering neocons?

fixed.

 

[boomerang]

And I have to wonder what 'goodies' Obama is handing out to get this backing; after all, this IS Washington DC.

Repeal of Obamacare maybe? I might accept that trade.

I wonder what he'd do if Congress turned him down? I mean besides pout.

 

[dainthomas]

fixed.

Ah, I see. When Obama became for it, they became against it. Just like.....pretty much everything else.

 

[Juddog]

Ah, I see. When Obama became for it, they became against it. Just like.....pretty much everything else.

Exactly - as soon as Obama is for something, that something is immediately wrong, even if that exact same thing had massive support from the same people before Obama was elected.

In a way it reminds me of the Fox news clips, where they ran this big story all day about how president Bush wasn't responsible for gas prices, and it's not the president's fault when gas prices go up. Then the same Fox news, after Obama was elected, was suddenly pointing the blame that it's the president's fault that gas prices went up.

Apparently some republicans on here have a big problem with long term memory.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Exactly - as soon as Obama is for something, that something is immediately wrong, even if that exact same thing had massive support from the same people before Obama was elected.

That is absolutely not true.

I swear you progressive circle jerkers couldn't have an honest debate if your life depended on it.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Exactly - as soon as Obama is for something, that something is immediately wrong, even if that exact same thing had massive support from the same people before Obama was elected.

In a way it reminds me of the Fox news clips, where they ran this big story all day about how president Bush wasn't responsible for gas prices, and it's not the president's fault when gas prices go up. Then the same Fox news, after Obama was elected, was suddenly pointing the blame that it's the president's fault that gas prices went up.

Apparently some republicans on here have a big problem with long term memory.

And to address your edit..... Newsflash...... People are upset at obama over what obama is doing.

And you are equating that with being upset over what fox news is broadcasting??


You really don't see the difference in judging obama for his direct actions, and judging obama over what fox news says he is doing?



It's really no wonder that we as a country are so divided. Between progressive racists making "black men" out to be bad people to this sort of crap.

I mean how can one have an honest debate with someone like yourself? It's literally impossible.

 

[Juddog]

And to address your edit..... Newsflash...... People are upset at obama over what obama is doing.

And you are equating that with being upset over what fox news is broadcasting??


You really don't see the difference in judging obama for his direct actions, and judging obama over what fox news says he is doing?

It's really no wonder that we as a country are so divided. Between progressive racists making "black men" out to be bad people to this sort of crap.

I mean how can one have an honest debate with someone like yourself? It's literally impossible.

Wow you are really sticking to the "black man" post huh? You do realize it was sarcasm, right? Right?

The country is divided because people have been set into the mindset of left versus right, conservative versus liberal, democrat versus republican. The fact of the matter is that the world is not black or white and that people need to quit only thinking on party lines.

I personally feel that Obama bombing the Syrian government is wrong, but I have been bashed as a liberal non-stop this entire thread because I poked fun at some of the logic used by people in the thread as being for something until Obama wants to do it, then suddenly it's bad.

This single thread has more straw mans than a field of scare crows.

 

[jhbball]

And to address your edit..... Newsflash...... People are upset at obama over what obama is doing.

And you are equating that with being upset over what fox news is broadcasting??


You really don't see the difference in judging obama for his direct actions, and judging obama over what fox news says he is doing?



It's really no wonder that we as a country are so divided. Between progressive racists making "black men" out to be bad people to this sort of crap.

I mean how can one have an honest debate with someone like yourself? It's literally impossible.

You call Obama 'Dear Leader' in every thread. Who want's to have an honest debate here? LOLOLOL.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Wow you are really sticking to the "black man" post huh? You do realize it was sarcasm, right? Right?

The country is divided because people have been set into the mindset of left versus right, conservative versus liberal, democrat versus republican. The fact of the matter is that the world is not black or white and that people need to quit only thinking on party lines.

I personally feel that Obama bombing the Syrian government is wrong, but I have been bashed as a liberal non-stop this entire thread because I poked fun at some of the logic used by people in the thread as being for something until Obama wants to do it, then suddenly it's bad.

This single thread has more straw mans than a field of scare crows.

You are being bashed because of your extremely divisive and closet racist "black man" comment.

I know you said it in sarcasm, but it's an absolutely disgusting comment. And you have no room whatsoever to even begin to discuss why this country is divided when you come in here talking about how people don't like obama because he's a "bad black man".

How revolting.


:thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

 

[Engineer]

That is absolutely not true.

I swear you progressive circle jerkers couldn't have an honest debate if your life depended on it.

I was against Bush for war. I'm against Obama for thinking about war and will despise his position if he puts us into one, but you haven't paid a bit of attention to this forum (or have willingly ignored the truth if it's convenient to do so) if you don't see exactly what you're saying isn't true. There are many on this very forum that have flipped positions - both ways - since Obama has became president. Yes, I said both ways.....

 

[jhbball]

Ah, I see. When Obama became for it, they became against it. Just like.....pretty much everything else.

This, obviously.

 

[Juddog]

You are being bashed because of your extremely divisive and closet racist "black man" comment.

I know you said it in sarcasm, but it's an absolutely disgusting comment. And you have no room whatsoever to even begin to discuss why this country is divided when you come in here talking about how people don't like obama because he's a "bad black man".

How revolting.


:thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

You are being purposefully obtuse at this point. By all means, keep attacking an imaginary statement though, I'm all ears.

 

[Juddog]

I was against Bush for war. I'm against Obama for thinking about war and will despise his position if he puts us into one, but you haven't paid a bit of attention to this forum if you don't see exactly what you're saying isn't true. There are many on this very forum that have flipped positions - both ways - since Obama has became president. Yes, I said both ways.....

Thankfully a moderate finally enters the discussion. I feel the same way; I didn't want President Bush invading Iraq on some trumped up charges, and I'm not for Obama bombing Syria for a civil war.

There was an interview I heard the other day where Syrian women were being interviewed, to show how divided the country itself was in regards to the rebels. On one hand, nobody liked the idea of a brutal government crackdown on the rebels, but one of the women interviewed didn't want the rebels to win and try to implement an islamic-based law system, where they would have to wear burkas, etc..

I see this no different than America's own civil war - how would we feel if England or France decided to aid the North or South? I say Syria needs to figure this out on their own, but that's just my opinion.

 

[Dari]

Old Man McCane (and his catamite Lindsey Graham) never seen a war he didn't like.

 

[BoberFett]

When did all the conservatives on here turn into peace loving hippies?

I'm far worse than a conservative. I'm a *gasp!* libertarian. I've been a peace loving hippie for a long time. If it were up to me, I'd pull back every American soldier stationed overseas and close every foreign military base. If the rest of the world wants to kill each other, let them. We'll maintain a strong defensive military that's used for... oh I don't know... defense?

 

[Engineer]

I'm far worse than a conservative. I'm a *gasp!* libertarian. I've been a peace loving hippie for a long time. If it were up to me, I'd pull back every American soldier stationed overseas and close every foreign military base. If the rest of the world wants to kill each other, let them. We'll maintain a strong defensive military that's used for... oh I don't know... defense?

:thumbsup:

 

[Juddog]

I'm far worse than a conservative. I'm a *gasp!* libertarian. I've been a peace loving hippie for a long time. If it were up to me, I'd pull back every American soldier stationed overseas and close every foreign military base. If the rest of the world wants to kill each other, let them. We'll maintain a strong defensive military that's used for... oh I don't know... defense?

I agree with you here almost fully. There are a few instances where we needed to intervene, e.g. world war 2, but I don't think we need to be getting in the middle of a civil war.

 

[Engineer]

Old Man McCane (and his catamite Lindsey Graham) never seen a war he didn't like.

Does South Carolina (and Arizona for that matter) have a lot of defense contractors?

As for the two mentioned, they were both slobbering over the idea of war yesterday....with the only pause being that Graham was blasting Obama for not doing it two years ago.

*sigh*

 

[boomerang]

The latest poll shows 59% of the people are opposed to getting involved in Syria. Hearings are now being held to determine whether Congress will approve getting involved in Syria. There need be no discussion. The people don't want it.

Unfortunately, the opinion I just expressed will be considered naïve or immaterial. The people no longer have a say in government. Obama has already said he's doing it whether he has approval from Congress or not.

To recap;
People don't want it.
Congress is trying to decide which way to vote.
Obama has already made up his mind.

We no longer have a representational form of government. We have one man making decisions. Why all the hoopla? Are that many being fooled into still thinking they have a say in things?