obama successfully reaches across to Republicans.

[Fern]

By surgically taking out most of his military resources including all of his chemical weapons? I mean, that is the stated plan, is it not?

It's been stated numerous times, in numerous places, by numerous experts that we cannot take out his chemical weapons with air power or missiles. It requires people/troops

Fern

 

[Darwin333]

There are a few outdated Tommys that could be tossed out.

to expend manpower and fuel using manned strikes is a waste.

What is a "Tommy"?

 

[Darwin333]

I don't think the goal is to remove Assad as a threat. I think the goal is to remove his ability to use chems.

I haven't quite understood this point. He can kill his own people, including women and children, all day long and we are cool with that as long as he uses bombs and bullets. If he kills the exact same amount of people using chemical weapons then he must be stopped. WTF is the difference? Last I checked dead is fucking dead.

 

[BoberFett]

I haven't quite understood this point. He can kill his own people, including women and children, all day long and we are cool with that as long as he uses bombs and bullets. If he kills the exact same amount of people using chemical weapons then he must be stopped. WTF is the difference? Last I checked dead is fucking dead.

The difference is that actually stopping the civil war would be messy and draw the US into an Iraq level quagmire, while limiting the scope of your goals to something nebulous like "punishing Assad for using chemical weapons" lets you move the goalposts as necessary. This is important, because then that distinction between methods of killing allows The Obama Fanclub to maintain their righteous indignation about Bush and Iraq while protecting their leader in the event of a clusterfuck in Syria.

 

[Darwin333]

The difference is that actually stopping the civil war would be messy and draw the US into an Iraq level quagmire, while limiting the scope of your goals to something nebulous like "punishing Assad for using chemical weapons" lets you move the goalposts as necessary. This is important, because then that distinction between methods of killing allows The Obama Fanclub to maintain their righteous indignation about Bush and Iraq while protecting their leader in the event of a clusterfuck in Syria.

Seeing how this is a rather bipartisan issue I don't see your point at all unless you are saying the Repubs are trying to protect Obama from a potential clursterfuck which, to me at least, doesn't seem likely.

 

[piasabird]

Obamma has started more wars than any other president.

 

[piasabird]

Obamma has started more wars than any other president. He is a cold blooded baby killer. That he would even nominate Kerry is an insult to every member of the military. Does he even know what kind of turn coat Kerry is for the Military? Kerry claimed all the soldiers in Viet Nam were baby killers. How could he ever possible be the secretary of State? He is a clown!

 

[BlueWolf47]

Obamma has started more wars than any other president. He is a cold blooded baby killer. That he would even nominate Kerry is an insult to every member of the military. Does he even know what kind of turn coat Kerry is for the Military? Kerry claimed all the soldiers in Viet Nam were baby killers. How could he ever possible be the secretary of State? He is a clown!

You forgot to put /sarcasm.

 

[Incorruptible]

Obamma has started more wars than any other president. He is a cold blooded baby killer. That he would even nominate Kerry is an insult to every member of the military. Does he even know what kind of turn coat Kerry is for the Military? Kerry claimed all the soldiers in Viet Nam were baby killers. How could he ever possible be the secretary of State? He is a clown!

It is obama, what else do you expect from him?

 

[Agent11]

France will wait for the UN, Obama may have no allies.

 

[boomerang]

France will wait for the UN, Obama may have no allies.

He's the laughing stock of the world and everyone knows it but him.

 

[dank69]

I haven't quite understood this point. He can kill his own people, including women and children, all day long and we are cool with that as long as he uses bombs and bullets. If he kills the exact same amount of people using chemical weapons then he must be stopped. WTF is the difference? Last I checked dead is fucking dead.

I didn't craft the international rules of war, you'll have to research the reasoning yourself. I trust you won't agree with it even after you've learned about it.

 

[dank69]

The difference is that actually stopping the civil war would be messy and draw the US into an Iraq level quagmire, while limiting the scope of your goals to something nebulous like "punishing Assad for using chemical weapons" lets you move the goalposts as necessary. This is important, because then that distinction between methods of killing allows The Obama Fanclub to maintain their righteous indignation about Bush and Iraq while protecting their leader in the event of a clusterfuck in Syria.

The only way that this would be equivalent to Bush/Iraq would be if Obama knows that Assad didn't use chems. Nice try to equate the two, though.

 

[BoberFett]

The only way that this would be equivalent to Bush/Iraq would be if Obama knows that Assad didn't use chems. Nice try to equate the two, though.

We do know Saddam used them. We don't know if Assad did. Democrats really should have been far more supportive of Bush and damning of Obama if attacking countries that use chemical weapons is their goal.

 

[dainthomas]

I haven't quite understood this point. He can kill his own people, including women and children, all day long and we are cool with that as long as he uses bombs and bullets. If he kills the exact same amount of people using chemical weapons then he must be stopped. WTF is the difference? Last I checked dead is fucking dead.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hague_Conventions_of_1899_and_1907

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I#Ground_warfare

History is fun.

Saw some congress critter on a Sunday news show actually saying it doesn't matter if they all gas each other as long as they don't directly come after the United States or our allies. Because ignoring a maniac worked so well for Neville Chamberlain.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

What is a "Tommy"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomahawk_(missile)