Obama seeks 34 million blank green cards, work permits

[michal1980]

The President has no authority to do that. Please know the laws. I believe the OP is probably under the same misconception

He'll grant himself authority.

He'd probably spin it as a presidential pardon. And since then they didn't break any laws they would be instantly allowed green cards.

heck, why stop there, give them full citizenship, and passports, hand out the welfare checks from day one, sign up for obama care.

What does Obama have to lose? nothing but gaining 35 million new democrat voters. Then they can really vote whitey out of office.

 

[K1052]

He'll grant himself authority.

He'd probably spin it as a presidential pardon. And since then they didn't break any laws they would be instantly allowed green cards.

heck, why stop there, give them full citizenship, and passports, hand out the welfare checks from day one, sign up for obama care.

What does Obama have to lose? nothing but gaining 35 million new democrat voters. Then they can really vote whitey out of office.

I see this "news" has found the voting block of hysterical old racist xenophobes it was intended for.

 

[alcoholbob]

There are think tanks that prefer a lower rate of legal immigration to tighten the labor market, but i havent seen outright bans on immigration. Even the most restrictive immigration suggestions by think tanks I've seen still make allowances in the range of 300,000 a year, a far cry from the 1950s when the country was only taking about 50,000-60,000 immigrants annually.

 

[zinfamous]

< taps sarcasm meter >

Why would I joke about that?

The more time TH is on a boat performing tug jobs with his friendly seamen, the less time he has to post here.

Everyone wins.

 

[Pneumothorax]

The President has no authority to do that. Please know the laws. I believe the OP is probably under the same misconception

So what he has a pen and a phone or something like that. He and Holder only follow laws that he agrees with remember? In all seriousness, the turnaround time for our court system (especially DC circuit) is so long now and is now stacked with his crony judges that even if what Obama does is eventually judged illegal, he will be long gone from office and which party is going to sacrifice it's own members to cut off the bennies off these new 12-30+ million new pseudo citizens?!

 

[alzan]

Why would I joke about that?

The more time TH is on a boat performing tug jobs with his friendly seamen, the less time he has to post here.

Everyone wins.

I was thinking more charitably; as bad as he is I wouldn't want to inflict (infect?) TH on anybody.

 

[Texashiker]

Why would I joke about that?

The more time TH is on a boat performing tug jobs with his friendly seamen, the less time he has to post here.

Everyone wins.

Hopefully I will find out something tomorrow.

I would love to be out with a seaman, feeling the spray on my face.

 

[LegendKiller]

I see this "news" has found the voting block of hysterical old racist xenophobes it was intended for.

Yeah, anybody who would rather force an increase in labor prices through scarcity that would then entice others to take those jobs so that usage of food stamps and other subsidies decrease as we seek full employment *FOR AMERICANS*. Most other first world countries don't let tons and tons of illegals in through porous borders, or arrest them and then let them back into the general populations. Most pursue a domestic-first policy, albeit with legal immigration.

For fucks sake, I am tired of the uber-racists throwing around the racist card.

 

[squarecut1]

Please enlighten us. Share with us these organizations' names and think tanks' names that opposed legal immigration.

I have never seen the argument made against legal immigration except by those on the left trying to blur the lines between legal and illegal immigration.

The rather well known conservative group, Center for Immigration Studies, has been campaigning against legal immigration for many many years.

Its senior policy analyst Stephen Steinlight has openly called for a ban on all Muslim immigrants.

I am not saying that is the case with each and everyone, but in general, the issue of immigration and xenophobia are never far apart. Not in America, not in Europe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Immigration_Studies

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conte...muslims-believe-things-are-subversive-constit

 

[K1052]

Yeah, anybody who would rather force an increase in labor prices through scarcity that would then entice others to take those jobs so that usage of food stamps and other subsidies decrease as we seek full employment *FOR AMERICANS*. Most other first world countries don't let tons and tons of illegals in through porous borders, or arrest them and then let them back into the general populations. Most pursue a domestic-first policy, albeit with legal immigration.

For fucks sake, I am tired of the uber-racists throwing around the racist card.

Yet, neither party actually is calling for such measures despite some lip service to the contrary. I was pointing out that the conservatives outlets are just dangling the fear of Obama making illegals legal without Congress (an impossibility) to whip up base voters for the midterm elections. I've called or implied that an individual might be a racist probably twice ever here...given his post I don't reall feel that I need to retract my comment.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Hopefully I will find out something tomorrow.

I would love to be out with a seaman, feeling the spray on my face.

Kinky.

 

[LegendKiller]

Yet, neither party actually is calling for such measures despite some lip service to the contrary. I was pointing out that the conservatives outlets are just dangling the fear of Obama making illegals legal without Congress (an impossibility) to whip up base voters for the midterm elections. I've called or implied that an individual might be a racist probably twice ever here...given his post I don't reall feel that I need to retract my comment.

He has already said he'd be willing to take executive action up to what he can legally do. Holder, or his next AG, is more than willing to write whatever executive memos needed to justify his actions.

I do not doubt, for a second, that he'd try to push it through. So many of the Dem Congressmen are beating the drums.

 

[zinfamous]

I would love to be out with a seaman, feeling the spray on my face.

 

[michal1980]

oh look the word is getting out.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/editorial-green-cards-on-the-table/

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politi...34-million-work-permits-and-green-cards-video

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Why would I joke about that?

The more time TH is on a boat performing tug jobs with his friendly seamen, the less time he has to post here.

Everyone wins.

:awe:
:thumbsup:

 

[Nebor]

This is needed to drive down the outrageously high labor wages in this country.

 

[squarecut1]

oh look the word is getting out.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/editorial-green-cards-on-the-table/

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politi...34-million-work-permits-and-green-cards-video

Ample proof of how all sorts of things propagate instantly these days due to Internet.

 

[1prophet]

I see this "news" has found the voting block of hysterical old racist xenophobes it was intended for.

Do you feed and clothe the neighbors children before your own?

 

[brycejones]

oh look the word is getting out.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/20/editorial-green-cards-on-the-table/

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politi...34-million-work-permits-and-green-cards-video

No it isn't, they are repeating the same bull shit sources. Not sure I would call that the "word getting out". Spreading rumors would be a more accurate description. Real journalism not found.

 

[1prophet]

Here is a thought experiment. Take out all the legal immigrants / naturalized citizens from America right now. Result? Several if not most industries will collapse overnight. America has and continues to benefit greatly by the talents of immigrants, despite what the talk radio guy says.

Immigration is a time honored tactic on the right to rile up and energize its voters, and predictably around election time, this noise gets much louder.

As for illegal immigration, I am of the firm view that it needs to be stopped. But the right (on the payroll of its corporate masters) supports illegal immigration, but uses the rhetoric for political purposes.

Here is an example from New Hampshire.

When you are told to go to school, study hard, then go to college while getting into great debt and the same corporate masters pull this on you

How not to hire an American

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU



You create alot of people that will listen to the Hannity's, Limbaugh's, etc that normally wouldn't.

 

[alcoholbob]

The rather well known conservative group, Center for Immigration Studies, has been campaigning against legal immigration for many many years.

Its senior policy analyst Stephen Steinlight has openly called for a ban on all Muslim immigrants.

I am not saying that is the case with each and everyone, but in general, the issue of immigration and xenophobia are never far apart. Not in America, not in Europe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Immigration_Studies

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conte...muslims-believe-things-are-subversive-constit

Mark Krikorian, Executive Director of CIS says he wants to limit immigration to 450,000 per year, this is still 8x the immigration rate in the 50s and about half the current annual allowance, and more than the amount we took in the 60s 70s or 80s. Sounds like a lot of left wing fear mongering about bigots to me.

 

[werepossum]

Do you feed and clothe the neighbors children before your own?

Why on Earth would he do that? Feeding and clothing the neighbors' children is Someone Else's responsibility. Feeding and clothing his own children is also Someone Else's responsibility. His responsibility is to make sure that Someone Else is spending Someone Else's money to his own satisfaction.

 

[K1052]

Why on Earth would he do that? Feeding and clothing the neighbors' children is Someone Else's responsibility. Feeding and clothing his own children is also Someone Else's responsibility. His responsibility is to make sure that Someone Else is spending Someone Else's money to his own satisfaction.

An inane comment taken to it's illogical conclusion. Compelling stuff right there.

 

[squarecut1]

Mark Krikorian, Executive Director of CIS says he wants to limit immigration to 450,000 per year, this is still 8x the immigration rate in the 50s and about half the current annual allowance, and more than the amount we took in the 60s 70s or 80s. Sounds like a lot of left wing fear mongering about bigots to me.

The poster had said that no one is against legal immigration. I replied to that. Including a prominent member of that organization that has called for a ban on Muslim immigrants.

 

[Wreckem]

He has already said he'd be willing to take executive action up to what he can legally do. Holder, or his next AG, is more than willing to write whatever executive memos needed to justify his actions.

I do not doubt, for a second, that he'd try to push it through. So many of the Dem Congressmen are beating the drums.

The AG doesn't write them/prepare them. The White House Counsel does.

Alberto Gonzalez was eventually appointed to AG, but his shennigans regarding executive orders(torture, war on terrorism, etc) occured while he was White House Counsel.