Obama Picks Arne Duncan for Education Post

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: loki8481
if Chicago schools were so amazing under Duncan that he's the guy to lead the education department... why didn't the Obamas send their kids to them?

What a stupid statement. If he hired a guy for Surgeon General who reduced the spread of AIDS in African from 90% to 40%, who you say "Hey, if Africa is so awesome, why doesn't Obama get all his health-care from there?!"

I don't think anyone said Chicago schools were awesome, only that they've been getting better under this guy.

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: loki8481
if Chicago schools were so amazing under Duncan that he's the guy to lead the education department... why didn't the Obamas send their kids to them?

It's a security risk for a state senator's daughter to go to public schools. :laugh:

Sometimes it is; what's so funny about that?

 

[Dari]

OP, if you hate Obama so much, there's always suicide.

 

[spidey07]

The amount of cronyism Obama is displaying is downright disgusting.

 

[BoomerD]

Compared to the bunch Bush picked...some of Obama's cabinet seems like they actually know their jobs...

Does, "You're doing a heck of a job, Brownie" ring any bells?

I sure can't see where Bush and his cabinet did any GOOD things for public schools in the USA. His NCLB act has been a disaster for schools all across the nation.

Instead of actually teaching and educating, and trying to improve the minds of schoolchildren, schools now only teach the NCLB tests to the lowest common denominator so they can improve their test scores.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: spidey07
The amount of cronyism Obama is displaying is downright disgusting.

Dictionary definition of cronyism: Favoritism shown to old friends without regard for their qualifications, as in political appointments to office.

Are you claiming Obama's appointments are not qualified? If they are not, which ones, and why?

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
Compared to the bunch Bush picked...some of Obama's cabinet seems like they actually know their jobs...

Does, "You're doing a heck of a job, Brownie" ring any bells?

I sure can't see where Bush and his cabinet did any GOOD things for public schools in the USA. His NCLB act has been a disaster for schools all across the nation.

Instead of actually teaching and educating, and trying to improve the minds of schoolchildren, schools now only teach the NCLB tests to the lowest common denominator so they can improve their test scores.

Funny, because Arne Duncan talks about Chicago test scores and likes NCLB.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: spidey07
The amount of cronyism Obama is displaying is downright disgusting.

:roll:

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: spidey07
The amount of cronyism Obama is displaying is downright disgusting.

Not enough cronyism, I don't see planes full yet.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Dari
OP, if you hate Obama so much, there's always suicide.

:shocked: :laugh:

Man and I get picked on for asking them if they packed their bags yet.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: loki8481
if Chicago schools were so amazing under Duncan that he's the guy to lead the education department... why didn't the Obamas send their kids to them?

Doh!!! Damn you and your logic.

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: loki8481
if Chicago schools were so amazing under Duncan that he's the guy to lead the education department... why didn't the Obamas send their kids to them?

Doh!!! Damn you and your logic.

how is what he says logical much less rational?

if that is what passes for your "logic" well no wonder why you are always on the losing side of an argument.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: BoomerD
Compared to the bunch Bush picked...some of Obama's cabinet seems like they actually know their jobs...

Does, "You're doing a heck of a job, Brownie" ring any bells?

I sure can't see where Bush and his cabinet did any GOOD things for public schools in the USA. His NCLB act has been a disaster for schools all across the nation.

Instead of actually teaching and educating, and trying to improve the minds of schoolchildren, schools now only teach the NCLB tests to the lowest common denominator so they can improve their test scores.

NCLB was written by Ted Kennedy!!!!

The legislation was co-Authored by Representatives John Boehner (R-OH) and George Miller (D-CA) and Senators Judd Gregg (R-NH) and Edward Kennedy (D-MA), and signed by President Bush.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: loki8481
if Chicago schools were so amazing under Duncan that he's the guy to lead the education department... why didn't the Obamas send their kids to them?

Doh!!! Damn you and your logic.

If this is genuinely your idea of "logic," then I think we can safely dismiss anything you have to say from here on out.

Seriously, do you think before you post? If an appointee reduces the crime rate in an area from 85% to 60%, does that mean anyone who thinks he's doing a good job should have to move to that neighborhood to back up his beliefs?

Do you not understand the difference between the concepts of "significant improvement" and "100% better?" It's not that difficult.

 

[Genx87]

Not a terribly inspiring pick, I can give Obama a little slack. Not all picks will be worth talking about. Maybe he can put this guy and Daschle in a room together for 4-8 years.

I dont suspect this poor guy could fix the system even if he was the best pick anyways.

 

[NeoV]

NCLB was not poorly written, it was poorly executed - by this Administration - not by Sen Kennedy. Nice try moron.

Also, as for Prof John's idiotic 'affirmation' of 'why didn't Obama's kids go to Chicago public schools' - if your parents are both attorney's, and you live in just about ANY major city in this country, private schools are going to offer a better education - assuming you can afford it.

Should you really be surprised, or giddy, that Obama's kids were in private schools? If you are, the only thing affirmed here is that my cat has as much brain power as you do.

 

[KGB]

To the OP: Are you a product of the Chicago public school system?

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: loki8481
if Chicago schools were so amazing under Duncan that he's the guy to lead the education department... why didn't the Obamas send their kids to them?

Doh!!! Damn you and your logic.

If this is genuinely your idea of "logic," then I think we can safely dismiss anything you have to say from here on out.

Seriously, do you think before you post? If an appointee reduces the crime rate in an area from 85% to 60%, does that mean anyone who thinks he's doing a good job should have to move to that neighborhood to back up his beliefs?

Do you not understand the difference between the concepts of "significant improvement" and "100% better?" It's not that difficult.

I guess we should put next year's coach of the Detroit Lions in the hall of fame due to the inevitable 'significant improvement'. :laugh:

When you're at the bottom, you can only go up.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: loki8481
if Chicago schools were so amazing under Duncan that he's the guy to lead the education department... why didn't the Obamas send their kids to them?

Doh!!! Damn you and your logic.

If this is genuinely your idea of "logic," then I think we can safely dismiss anything you have to say from here on out.

Seriously, do you think before you post? If an appointee reduces the crime rate in an area from 85% to 60%, does that mean anyone who thinks he's doing a good job should have to move to that neighborhood to back up his beliefs?

Do you not understand the difference between the concepts of "significant improvement" and "100% better?" It's not that difficult.

Perhaps Obama should pick someone who runs a private school since he doesn't seem to trust the public school system to educate his own children.

 

[ohnoes]

hey loosar, do you remember that thread where you got owned and 100% debunked? It must be awesome to live with your head up your ass 24/7.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: loki8481
if Chicago schools were so amazing under Duncan that he's the guy to lead the education department... why didn't the Obamas send their kids to them?

Doh!!! Damn you and your logic.

If this is genuinely your idea of "logic," then I think we can safely dismiss anything you have to say from here on out.

Seriously, do you think before you post? If an appointee reduces the crime rate in an area from 85% to 60%, does that mean anyone who thinks he's doing a good job should have to move to that neighborhood to back up his beliefs?

Do you not understand the difference between the concepts of "significant improvement" and "100% better?" It's not that difficult.

Perhaps Obama should pick someone who runs a private school since he doesn't seem to trust the public school system to educate his own children.

If the majority of the nation attended a Private school, then yes, that would be a good idea. But since most of our children attend public schools, and public schools are having problems, then putting someone in charge of education who has experience improving troubled public schools seems like a no-brainer, don't you think?

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: NeoV
NCLB was not poorly written, it was poorly executed - by this Administration - not by Sen Kennedy. Nice try moron.

Also, as for Prof John's idiotic 'affirmation' of 'why didn't Obama's kids go to Chicago public schools' - if your parents are both attorney's, and you live in just about ANY major city in this country, private schools are going to offer a better education - assuming you can afford it.

Should you really be surprised, or giddy, that Obama's kids were in private schools? If you are, the only thing affirmed here is that my cat has as much brain power as you do.

Nothing wrong with sending your children to private school.

I have problem with rich liberals who send their kids to private schools and then do everything they can to prevent poor people from having the same choice.

To a rich liberal school choice is being able to chose what school you send your kids too but forcing poor people to send their kids to the local elementary school no matter how much it sucks.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: loki8481
if Chicago schools were so amazing under Duncan that he's the guy to lead the education department... why didn't the Obamas send their kids to them?

Doh!!! Damn you and your logic.

If this is genuinely your idea of "logic," then I think we can safely dismiss anything you have to say from here on out.

Seriously, do you think before you post? If an appointee reduces the crime rate in an area from 85% to 60%, does that mean anyone who thinks he's doing a good job should have to move to that neighborhood to back up his beliefs?

Do you not understand the difference between the concepts of "significant improvement" and "100% better?" It's not that difficult.

I guess we should put next year's coach of the Detroit Lions in the hall of fame due to the inevitable 'significant improvement'. :laugh:

When you're at the bottom, you can only go up.

If your Major League team is at rock bottom and you see a minor league coach who took a losing team with a 0-50 record and made them into a 30-20 team within a year or so, then yes, you might do well to investigate hiring this guy.

The concepts of "logic" and "analogies" greatly elude you, don't they?

/pats your head and gives you a

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: loki8481
if Chicago schools were so amazing under Duncan that he's the guy to lead the education department... why didn't the Obamas send their kids to them?

Doh!!! Damn you and your logic.

If this is genuinely your idea of "logic," then I think we can safely dismiss anything you have to say from here on out.

Seriously, do you think before you post? If an appointee reduces the crime rate in an area from 85% to 60%, does that mean anyone who thinks he's doing a good job should have to move to that neighborhood to back up his beliefs?

Do you not understand the difference between the concepts of "significant improvement" and "100% better?" It's not that difficult.

I guess we should put next year's coach of the Detroit Lions in the hall of fame due to the inevitable 'significant improvement'. :laugh:

When you're at the bottom, you can only go up.

If your Major League team is at rock bottom and you see a minor league coach who took a losing team with a 0-50 record and made them into a 30-20 team within a year or so, then yes, you might do well to investigate hiring this guy.

The concepts of "logic" and "analogies" greatly elude you, don't they?

/pats your head and gives you a

You'd have a point if the Chicago school district was comparable to a 30-20 team. It's more like 10-40 and still at the bottom of the barrel.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: loki8481
if Chicago schools were so amazing under Duncan that he's the guy to lead the education department... why didn't the Obamas send their kids to them?

Doh!!! Damn you and your logic.

If this is genuinely your idea of "logic," then I think we can safely dismiss anything you have to say from here on out.

Seriously, do you think before you post? If an appointee reduces the crime rate in an area from 85% to 60%, does that mean anyone who thinks he's doing a good job should have to move to that neighborhood to back up his beliefs?

Do you not understand the difference between the concepts of "significant improvement" and "100% better?" It's not that difficult.

I guess we should put next year's coach of the Detroit Lions in the hall of fame due to the inevitable 'significant improvement'. :laugh:

When you're at the bottom, you can only go up.

If your Major League team is at rock bottom and you see a minor league coach who took a losing team with a 0-50 record and made them into a 30-20 team within a year or so, then yes, you might do well to investigate hiring this guy.

The concepts of "logic" and "analogies" greatly elude you, don't they?

/pats your head and gives you a

You'd have a point if the Chicago school district was comparable to a 30-20 team. It's more like 10-40 and still at the bottom of the barrel.

Quick: Who your pick for Sec Ed? Or at least, what would be his/her qualifications?