Obama Picks Arne Duncan for Education Post

[winnar111]

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes...an-for-education-post/

President-elect Barack Obama will name Arne Duncan, the superintendent of schools in Chicago, to be his Secretary of Education, a senior Democratic official and a second person close to the decision said.

Mr. Duncan is a Harvard graduate whose friendship with Mr. Obama began on the basketball court and flowered into frequent discussions of education policy.

He has seven years? experience as chief executive of the Chicago Public Schools, the nation?s third-largest school district, where he has earned a solid reputation for confronting pressing issues in public education, like how to raise teacher quality, how to transform weak schools and when to shutter those that are irredeemably failing.

Word of the selection comes as Mr. Obama?s transition team said Monday that he would make an important announcement on Tuesday morning at the Dodge Renaissance Academy, an elementary school that Mr. Duncan and Mr. Obama visited together in October 2005.



Looks like Mr. Duncan is a nice equivalent of Wagoner and Nardelli, given that 44% of his students fail to graduate. This is the district that tried to pay people to get Cs, and which has been referred to as the worst in the nation.

 

[Vette73]

Nothing to see here, just another troll post by loser11


Harvard Grad and also...


"He has seven years? experience as chief executive of the Chicago Public Schools, the nation?s third-largest school district, where he has earned a solid reputation for confronting pressing issues in public education, like how to raise teacher quality, how to transform weak schools and when to shutter those that are irredeemably failing."

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Nothing to see here, just another troll post by loser11


Harvard Grad and also...


"He has seven years? experience as chief executive of the Chicago Public Schools, the nation?s third-largest school district, where he has earned a solid reputation for confronting pressing issues in public education, like how to raise teacher quality, how to transform weak schools and when to shutter those that are irredeemably failing."

Yep, the media is hard at work on their behalf. Too bad Chicago schools still suck.

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: winnar111
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes...an-for-education-post/

President-elect Barack Obama will name Arne Duncan, the superintendent of schools in Chicago, to be his Secretary of Education, a senior Democratic official and a second person close to the decision said.

Mr. Duncan is a Harvard graduate whose friendship with Mr. Obama began on the basketball court and flowered into frequent discussions of education policy.

He has seven years? experience as chief executive of the Chicago Public Schools, the nation?s third-largest school district, where he has earned a solid reputation for confronting pressing issues in public education, like how to raise teacher quality, how to transform weak schools and when to shutter those that are irredeemably failing.

Word of the selection comes as Mr. Obama?s transition team said Monday that he would make an important announcement on Tuesday morning at the Dodge Renaissance Academy, an elementary school that Mr. Duncan and Mr. Obama visited together in October 2005.



Looks like Mr. Duncan is a nice equivalent of Wagoner and Nardelli, given that 44% of his students fail to graduate. This is the district that tried to pay people to get Cs, and which has been referred to as the worst in the nation.

Wow, I guess there is nothing redeemable about this choice :roll:

 

[Rainsford]

You got any support for those facts you casually threw out about the Chicago school district and the implied inadequacy of Arne Duncan as a result? Even if Chicago schools look bad now...how much has Duncan improved them? Come on, attack boy, let's at least PRETEND you want to have a reasonable discussion about this.

Personally I think a superintendent of schools in a big city is a good choice for the job of education secretary. If we picked someone from a district with the highest performance, we'd probably end up with the superintendent from a rich suburb who doesn't have to do beans to get good results, since he has more funding and a better situation to begin with. Like it or not, schools across the country have some serious problems...I'd like an education secretary with some experience dealing with those kinds of issues.

 

[umbrella39]

The election is over, you can run away for 4 years again EBT.

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: winnar111
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes...an-for-education-post/

President-elect Barack Obama will name Arne Duncan, the superintendent of schools in Chicago, to be his Secretary of Education, a senior Democratic official and a second person close to the decision said.

Mr. Duncan is a Harvard graduate whose friendship with Mr. Obama began on the basketball court and flowered into frequent discussions of education policy.

He has seven years? experience as chief executive of the Chicago Public Schools, the nation?s third-largest school district, where he has earned a solid reputation for confronting pressing issues in public education, like how to raise teacher quality, how to transform weak schools and when to shutter those that are irredeemably failing.

Word of the selection comes as Mr. Obama?s transition team said Monday that he would make an important announcement on Tuesday morning at the Dodge Renaissance Academy, an elementary school that Mr. Duncan and Mr. Obama visited together in October 2005.



Looks like Mr. Duncan is a nice equivalent of Wagoner and Nardelli, given that 44% of his students fail to graduate. This is the district that tried to pay people to get Cs, and which has been referred to as the worst in the nation.

Look kids, another worthless post by winnar111! This that makes 1690 in a row.

 

[fskimospy]

Awww Winnar, you are trying so hard. So desperately hard.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
You got any support for those facts you casually threw out about the Chicago school district and the implied inadequacy of Arne Duncan as a result? Even if Chicago schools look bad now...how much has Duncan improved them? Come on, attack boy, let's at least PRETEND you want to have a reasonable discussion about this.

Personally I think a superintendent of schools in a big city is a good choice for the job of education secretary. If we picked someone from a district with the highest performance, we'd probably end up with the superintendent from a rich suburb who doesn't have to do beans to get good results, since he has more funding and a better situation to begin with. Like it or not, schools across the country have some serious problems...I'd like an education secretary with some experience dealing with those kinds of issues.

http://news.medill.northwester...go/news.aspx?id=107795

Rates have gone up by a tad, but guess what, they still suck compared to the state average. And Chicago is still behind the average city.

Chicago Public Schools has a 55 percent graduation rate. That means, out of all students who start in Chicago schools in 9th grade, roughly half of them will finish within five years.

While this number has increased in recent years -- it was about 47 percent in 2000 -- it is still well below the national average.

During the 2003-2004 school year, the national average was about 70 percent, according to Editorial Projects in Education Research Center. The average for urban districts is about 60 percent.

What was it the democrats have been saying about new leadership at failed companies?

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: winnar111

http://news.medill.northwester...go/news.aspx?id=107795

Rates have gone up by a tad, but guess what, they still suck compared to the state average. And Chicago is still behind the average city.

Chicago Public Schools has a 55 percent graduation rate. That means, out of all students who start in Chicago schools in 9th grade, roughly half of them will finish within five years.

While this number has increased in recent years -- it was about 47 percent in 2000 -- it is still well below the national average.

During the 2003-2004 school year, the national average was about 70 percent, according to Editorial Projects in Education Research Center. The average for urban districts is about 60 percent.

What was it the democrats have been saying about new leadership at failed companies?

So in his 7 years or so of being in charge, the Chicago schools have increased their graduation rate by nearly 20% and you're saying this is a bad thing? Can we declare Winnar patient zero for ODS?

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: winnar111

http://news.medill.northwester...go/news.aspx?id=107795

Rates have gone up by a tad, but guess what, they still suck compared to the state average. And Chicago is still behind the average city.

Chicago Public Schools has a 55 percent graduation rate. That means, out of all students who start in Chicago schools in 9th grade, roughly half of them will finish within five years.

While this number has increased in recent years -- it was about 47 percent in 2000 -- it is still well below the national average.

During the 2003-2004 school year, the national average was about 70 percent, according to Editorial Projects in Education Research Center. The average for urban districts is about 60 percent.

What was it the democrats have been saying about new leadership at failed companies?

So in his 7 years or so of being in charge, the Chicago schools have increased their graduation rate by nearly 20% and you're saying this is a bad thing? Can we declare Winnar patient zero for ODS?

That's like taking a dirty shirt to the cleaners and paying him for clearing out only half the stain before he gives you your shirt back.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: eskimospy

So in his 7 years or so of being in charge, the Chicago schools have increased their graduation rate by nearly 20% and you're saying this is a bad thing? Can we declare Winnar patient zero for ODS?

That's like taking a dirty shirt to the cleaners and paying him for clearing out only half the stain before he gives you your shirt back.

I can't see how it's like that at all. Please explain your analogy.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Rainsford
You got any support for those facts you casually threw out about the Chicago school district and the implied inadequacy of Arne Duncan as a result? Even if Chicago schools look bad now...how much has Duncan improved them? Come on, attack boy, let's at least PRETEND you want to have a reasonable discussion about this.

Personally I think a superintendent of schools in a big city is a good choice for the job of education secretary. If we picked someone from a district with the highest performance, we'd probably end up with the superintendent from a rich suburb who doesn't have to do beans to get good results, since he has more funding and a better situation to begin with. Like it or not, schools across the country have some serious problems...I'd like an education secretary with some experience dealing with those kinds of issues.

http://news.medill.northwester...go/news.aspx?id=107795

Rates have gone up by a tad, but guess what, they still suck compared to the state average. And Chicago is still behind the average city.

Chicago Public Schools has a 55 percent graduation rate. That means, out of all students who start in Chicago schools in 9th grade, roughly half of them will finish within five years.

While this number has increased in recent years -- it was about 47 percent in 2000 -- it is still well below the national average.

During the 2003-2004 school year, the national average was about 70 percent, according to Editorial Projects in Education Research Center. The average for urban districts is about 60 percent.

What was it the democrats have been saying about new leadership at failed companies?

So that link you put in your post has the following graph in it: http://news.medill.northwester...mages/Urban/Graph2.jpg.

Duncan has been superintendent for 7 years, according to the article in your OP, which puts him starting right around 2001, when the graduation rate had been holding steady at 47% for a few years. Today, it's at 55% after rising steadily...which doesn't seem like a coincidence and doesn't seem like "a tad". Chicago may be slightly below the national average for urban schools, but it looks to me like Duncan did a pretty good job trying to change that. The Chicago school district is obviously improving, and it looks to me like Duncan had a big hand in that.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: winnar111

http://news.medill.northwester...go/news.aspx?id=107795

Rates have gone up by a tad, but guess what, they still suck compared to the state average. And Chicago is still behind the average city.

Chicago Public Schools has a 55 percent graduation rate. That means, out of all students who start in Chicago schools in 9th grade, roughly half of them will finish within five years.

While this number has increased in recent years -- it was about 47 percent in 2000 -- it is still well below the national average.

During the 2003-2004 school year, the national average was about 70 percent, according to Editorial Projects in Education Research Center. The average for urban districts is about 60 percent.

What was it the democrats have been saying about new leadership at failed companies?

So in his 7 years or so of being in charge, the Chicago schools have increased their graduation rate by nearly 20% and you're saying this is a bad thing? Can we declare Winnar patient zero for ODS?

That's like taking a dirty shirt to the cleaners and paying him for clearing out only half the stain before he gives you your shirt back.

you're an idiot and a complete hack

the guy isn't even president yet and you already have ods.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: winnar111

http://news.medill.northwester...go/news.aspx?id=107795

Rates have gone up by a tad, but guess what, they still suck compared to the state average. And Chicago is still behind the average city.

Chicago Public Schools has a 55 percent graduation rate. That means, out of all students who start in Chicago schools in 9th grade, roughly half of them will finish within five years.

While this number has increased in recent years -- it was about 47 percent in 2000 -- it is still well below the national average.

During the 2003-2004 school year, the national average was about 70 percent, according to Editorial Projects in Education Research Center. The average for urban districts is about 60 percent.

What was it the democrats have been saying about new leadership at failed companies?

So in his 7 years or so of being in charge, the Chicago schools have increased their graduation rate by nearly 20% and you're saying this is a bad thing? Can we declare Winnar patient zero for ODS?

That's like taking a dirty shirt to the cleaners and paying him for clearing out only half the stain before he gives you your shirt back.

Analogy fail...

That's unacceptable for a cleaner because the AVERAGE cleaner is going to get your whole shirt clean. Do you have anything to suggest that the average school superintendent is able to raise the graduation rate faster than that? Otherwise I'd say Duncan might be at the top of that profession, even if he didn't achieve perfection in 7 years.

 

[NeoV]

omg, stop the press, Obama picked someone he actually knows for a position.....holy cow, what's next? Will he nominate his own legal council for a supreme court position? Will he appoint the head of his VP search team as the VP?

Obama won the election, get over it. When he appoints someone with no credentials for a position - then you can get all hot and bothered - until then, STFU up.

One last thing to get you all tingly inside - what do you want to bet that Arne Duncan, at the very least, knows one William Ayers? Did you just cream yourself? Go to it man, start drudging up some dirt on this!!! Go!

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
You got any support for those facts you casually threw out about the Chicago school district and the implied inadequacy of Arne Duncan as a result? Even if Chicago schools look bad now...how much has Duncan improved them? Come on, attack boy, let's at least PRETEND you want to have a reasonable discussion about this.

Personally I think a superintendent of schools in a big city is a good choice for the job of education secretary. If we picked someone from a district with the highest performance, we'd probably end up with the superintendent from a rich suburb who doesn't have to do beans to get good results, since he has more funding and a better situation to begin with. Like it or not, schools across the country have some serious problems...I'd like an education secretary with some experience dealing with those kinds of issues.

If you want someone from an urban district who doesn't fail, you could choose someone from the entire right hand column:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/e...opout-rates_x.htm#grad

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: winnar111

http://news.medill.northwester...go/news.aspx?id=107795

Rates have gone up by a tad, but guess what, they still suck compared to the state average. And Chicago is still behind the average city.

Chicago Public Schools has a 55 percent graduation rate. That means, out of all students who start in Chicago schools in 9th grade, roughly half of them will finish within five years.

While this number has increased in recent years -- it was about 47 percent in 2000 -- it is still well below the national average.

During the 2003-2004 school year, the national average was about 70 percent, according to Editorial Projects in Education Research Center. The average for urban districts is about 60 percent.

What was it the democrats have been saying about new leadership at failed companies?

So in his 7 years or so of being in charge, the Chicago schools have increased their graduation rate by nearly 20% and you're saying this is a bad thing? Can we declare Winnar patient zero for ODS?

That's like taking a dirty shirt to the cleaners and paying him for clearing out only half the stain before he gives you your shirt back.

Analogy fail...

That's unacceptable for a cleaner because the AVERAGE cleaner is going to get your whole shirt clean. Do you have anything to suggest that the average school superintendent is able to raise the graduation rate faster than that? Otherwise I'd say Duncan might be at the top of that profession, even if he didn't achieve perfection in 7 years.

http://www.gothamgazette.com/a...0080505/202/2515/#Cerf

The New York City School district managed a larger increase, a faster increase, and graduated a higher portion of their students, even though they're still close to the same fail.

The four-year graduation rate in New York City has gone from 51 percent when we got here and 53 percent in 2003, to 60 percent in the last year. In 2004, that state decided to try to make the metric for graduation rates uniform. By that measure, our progress has been exactly the same, but from a different starting point -- from 44 percent to 50 percent. Interestingly, throughout the state during that same period, the graduation rate dropped 2 percent, and in the so-called Big Four cities in the state it dropped 4 percent as well.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: winnar111

http://news.medill.northwester...go/news.aspx?id=107795

Rates have gone up by a tad, but guess what, they still suck compared to the state average. And Chicago is still behind the average city.

Chicago Public Schools has a 55 percent graduation rate. That means, out of all students who start in Chicago schools in 9th grade, roughly half of them will finish within five years.

While this number has increased in recent years -- it was about 47 percent in 2000 -- it is still well below the national average.

During the 2003-2004 school year, the national average was about 70 percent, according to Editorial Projects in Education Research Center. The average for urban districts is about 60 percent.

What was it the democrats have been saying about new leadership at failed companies?

So in his 7 years or so of being in charge, the Chicago schools have increased their graduation rate by nearly 20% and you're saying this is a bad thing? Can we declare Winnar patient zero for ODS?

That's like taking a dirty shirt to the cleaners and paying him for clearing out only half the stain before he gives you your shirt back.

Analogy fail...

That's unacceptable for a cleaner because the AVERAGE cleaner is going to get your whole shirt clean. Do you have anything to suggest that the average school superintendent is able to raise the graduation rate faster than that? Otherwise I'd say Duncan might be at the top of that profession, even if he didn't achieve perfection in 7 years.

http://www.gothamgazette.com/a...0080505/202/2515/#Cerf

The New York City School district managed a larger increase, a faster increase, and graduated a higher portion of their students, even though they're still close to the same fail.

The four-year graduation rate in New York City has gone from 51 percent when we got here and 53 percent in 2003, to 60 percent in the last year. In 2004, that state decided to try to make the metric for graduation rates uniform. By that measure, our progress has been exactly the same, but from a different starting point -- from 44 percent to 50 percent. Interestingly, throughout the state during that same period, the graduation rate dropped 2 percent, and in the so-called Big Four cities in the state it dropped 4 percent as well.

You realize that the percentage increase from 51 to 60 and from 47 to 55 is pretty much identical, right?

 

[nageov3t]

if Chicago schools were so amazing under Duncan that he's the guy to lead the education department... why didn't the Obamas send their kids to them?

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: loki8481
if Chicago schools were so amazing under Duncan that he's the guy to lead the education department... why didn't the Obamas send their kids to them?

Usually the measure of an administrator's effectiveness is how much of what he or she is responsible for improves under their administration. At least if you aren't crazy or don't have an agenda.

 

[OrByte]

AP article

here are some highlights:

Duncan has run the country's third-biggest school district since 2001, pushing to boost teacher quality and to improve struggling schools and closing those that fail. Student test scores have risen significantly during Duncan's tenure.

Duncan's nomination will please reform advocates who wanted a big-city schools chief who has sought to hold schools and teachers accountable for student performance; they had backed Duncan or New York's Joel Klein.

Unions, an influential segment of the party base, wanted a strong advocate for their members such as Obama adviser Linda Darling-Hammond, a Stanford University education professor.
Yet Duncan's nomination may please the unions, who have said Duncan seems willing to work with them.

It seems Obama went against the Unions wishes and chose someone that reform advocates like.

I know graduation rates are important...but I think there is more to measure and evaluate of the man that Obama picked. More importantly he is a reformer, and he is someone that wasn't the Teachers Union's FIRST choice. Any advocate for boosting teacher quality is OK in my book.

And yes, I bet you he knows and has worked with Bill Ayers :shocked:

:thumbsup: to the poster that mentioned that earlier!!

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: loki8481
if Chicago schools were so amazing under Duncan that he's the guy to lead the education department... why didn't the Obamas send their kids to them?

Because private schools are better?

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: loki8481
if Chicago schools were so amazing under Duncan that he's the guy to lead the education department... why didn't the Obamas send their kids to them?

It's a security risk for a state senator's daughter to go to public schools. :laugh:

 

[jpeyton]

8 more years of winnars troll posts.