Originally posted by: Blunc
perhaps we should just do as green bean wants, America should just quit being the "police of the world"....and while the USA is no longer giving the smackdown to tyrants that invade Kuwait anymore then maybe the USA will just quit giving out billions in aid to every country that has their needy little hands out.
no more superior weapons sold to anyone
no more earthquake relief
no more rebuilding countries that attacked the USA first
no more oil dependency...period! you have no power over us if we don't need your stuff!
who will the rest of the world go crying to if/when the USA says "ENOUGH!"?, China...Russia...Venezuela....Switzerland...Iraq...Iran?
I think it would be a real "eye opener" for the rest of the world if the USA just took all their marbles and went home for just one year, no assistance to or from anyone.
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As Blunc basically puts a 1 year cap on the Ron Paul position and predicts that the world would then fall apart.
But it still becomes somewhat revisionist history when applied to Gulf war 1, Gulf war 2, and Afghanistan, where US meddling was very much the precursor in all three. And while we are at it, why not add in Iran Vietnam, Israel, plus a pile of other nations the USA and Nato have used as pawns as we have fought a cold war
with the evil empire of the Soviet Union.
Never mind the fact that the evil Russians who we thought we beat in the early 90's are now back, meanwhile we had to have an enemy to keep the military industrial complex alive, and a war on terror fit that bill.
But to not write a book about other conflicts, what we now have in Afghanistan is an occupation on the cheap that keeps Afghanistan in a State of perpetual state of chaos, corruption, and anarchy, because Nato tries to bite off more than it can chew. And if Nato goes into the tribal regions of Pakistan, all its going to create is chaos and anarchy in a larger area. Brutal as the Taliban is, the Afghan people would be better off under their control that it is now to be in a shooting gallery where both elements vie for control and consign all of Afghanistan into a shooting gallery in perpetuity.
The US and Nato can hardly claim to be fighting in the interests of the Afghan people, we are in it for our own self interests and are not even doing a good job at that.
Our enemy is and remains Al-Quida which is an international terror movement which can and is basing itself anywhere. And any smart doable strategy must drive a wedge between Al-Quida and the Taliban which is a local homegrown movement
largely made more vicious and empowered by the Nato Presence which it wants to expel. Including the Taliban in the political process would allow the wedge to be driven and allow Nato a chance to find common cause fighting corruption and anarchy.
Since six years has taught us that our current strategy is failing, maybe its time to
try something smarter. And once economic development in Afghanistan is made possible, the Taliban as a popular movement will moderate their ideas. As it is, we fossilize their position and create a self fulfilling prophesy that is a lose lose lose strategy for everyone except Al-Quida.
If nothing else, Vietnam should have taught us, that in an insurgency, even if the other side has nothing to offer, when the country is made into a long term shooting gallery, the home grown insurgency wins every time.