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The Green Bean

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KABUL: Pakistani troops fired at NATO-led helicopters operating in eastern Afghanistan, the international force said, adding that there was no damage or casualties.

Amid mounting tensions between Islamabad and foreign forces in Afghanistan over a series of incursions, the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) stressed that the helicopters had not crossed into Pakistani airspace.

'ISAF helicopters received small-arms fire from a Pakistan military checkpoint along the border near Tanai district, Khost, September 25 while conducting routine operations in Afghanistan,' it said in a statement.

'There are no reports of any damages to the helicopters or any casualties.'

The statement added: 'ISAF forces and the Pakistani military are working together to resolve the matter.'

The incident was 'an unfortunate misunderstanding,' a Pentagon spokesman said Thursday.

'It appears to be an unfortunate misunderstanding,' said Bryan Whitman, a Pentagon spokesman.

Pakistan Television quoted the army as saying it was looking into the NATO allegations. The Pakistani military could not immediately be reached.

Tensions across the rugged and porous border are high after a series of US missile strikes on al-Qaeda-linked militants and an incursion by US soldiers into Pakistani tribal areas adjoining Afghanistan.

Pakistan's army is also investigating the crash of a suspected unmanned US spy plane 24 hours earlier near the Afghan border. Residents said it was shot down by tribesmen, but the military said it malfunctioned.

NATO has nearly 50,000 troops working in Afghanistan to help stabilise the country and defeat an insurgency led by the Taliban.

The USA has "temporarily" suspended visas for Pakistani nationals and banned all personnel from hotels. The UK has suspended all BA flights "temporarily". I'm seriously worried that Bush is looking to go out in a bang by launching a bombing campaign against a democratically elected regime. I don't know if that will get him anywhere but all I know is that if ISAF troops land in Pakistan again they will be fired upon with full force. Is it wrong to wish for another military coup in my country. All democratic governments here have failed miserably. This one is the worst ever. The president and PM are epic failures at public speaking. Gillani's latest trip to the USA meant he couldn't even understand the questions asked by journalists and yet he chose to speak in broken English making a fool out of himself - and us. If there has been any progress been made it has been under military leadership. Our golden years were under Ayub Khan and Musharraf.

At a meeting with American businessmen someone asked him how can we work together for economic benifit etc etc Gillani replied "I am from Multan and we have famous Mangoes".The whole hall was quiet for few minutes.
 

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
If Green Bean is the typical sentiment in Pakistan, then war needs to be declared and then waged.
Did you enlist yet?
 

tvarad

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Originally posted by: The Green Bean
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If there has been any progress been made it has been under military leadership. Our golden years were under Ayub Khan and Musharraf.

You feel that way because the military sticks a danda up every beloved patriot citizen's a**e and boy, that sure must feel good. Good enough to forget about the s**thole that Pakistan has become because of their constant domestic invasions and their misadventures with India, Afghanistan and even Bangladesh.
 

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Originally posted by: tvarad
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
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If there has been any progress been made it has been under military leadership. Our golden years were under Ayub Khan and Musharraf.

You feel that way because the military sticks a danda up every beloved patriot citizen's a**e and boy, that sure must feel good. Good enough to forget about the s**thole that Pakistan has become because of their constant domestic invasions and their misadventures with India, Afghanistan and even Bangladesh.

:laugh:
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: The Green Bean

This should send a clear message that the Pakistanis are not all-talk. And this coming just one day after the Marriot bombing shows how serious they are. There was be anger against the Taliban and Alaqeeda and one might've suspected we would have welcomed US help.

What do you Americans think? What should your response be to this?
Wipe out the next Pakistani military units that fire on ours.

The world is lucky that stupid people like you have no real power. If that happens we will simply cut off all your supplies.
LOL - speaking of stupid. Speaking of supplies, how much effort do you think it would take for the US to blockade your ports? Cease any transport in from Afghanistan? And I'm sure if India chose sides...I hope you like Chinese food!

Then we would have to respond and do all in our power to break the blockade; even if that means sinking a few US ships - by missiles; or suicide bombs. And India has nothing to gain by blocking our routes. They just opened up a new route though Kashmir to boost trade. That; and we produce more than enough to feed ourselves. It's just that greedy suppliers hoard it to maximize their profits.

A blockade would also mean your bases in the region are fair game. And never underestimate your enemy. Most of the world-changing battles have been lost because of arrogance. You can't afford a war. Financially you are near bankruptcy. At home your war weariness is at a high. You hold no credibility as an international power and the world sees you as oppressors. You would have more to lose from a blockade than us. Let's see for how much longer the world takes to change its colors to a fast dwindling superpower.
You think sinking a destroyer is going to make a difference? You'd never touch a carrier with conventional weapons, and if you went unconventional, well....

At least you are finally acknowledged you are our enemy. And nice that you recognize suicide bombers also as your terrorist fanatical tactic.
:music: Your true colors are shining through... :music:

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"Our current leadership isn't smart enough to lead a circus let alone run a country."
But you can execute a war against the most powerful, advanced, and battle hardened army the world has ever seen? You can't even beat a bunch of sheepherders in the mountaints. Pahlease.

 

The Green Bean

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Originally posted by: tvarad
You feel that way because the military sticks a danda up every beloved patriot citizen's a**e and boy, that sure must feel good. Good enough to forget about the s**thole that Pakistan has become because of their constant domestic invasions and their misadventures with India, Afghanistan and even Bangladesh.

Pakistan has been doing a lot better of in the last few years than ever. Yes security has become a problem but the 90's were worse believe it or not. Except that the western media never gave us any attention then just like they don't care about the internal problems of India and China which face problems on a similar scale as we do. The Delhi bombings of India did not even make it to the front page in the NYtimes. The Islamabad bombings took the whole of it. Our current leadership isn't smart enough to lead a circus let alone run a country. Fuck them. Fuck the Americans. Fuck NATO. Fuck the Afghans.
 

The Green Bean

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Originally posted by: alchemize
At least you are finally acknowledged you are our enemy. And nice that you recognize suicide bombers also as your terrorist fanatical tactic.
:music: Your true colors are shining through... :music:

Define "our." There will be no coalition. You will be alone. And you won't have any money left to feed your population let lone fuel a carrier group when the current financial crisis is over. :laugh:

And I condemn suicide bombers even on military targets. But according to the "rules of war" they are nothing new. The Japanese used the same tactics in world war 2. And yes anybody that breaches are borders without permission is the enemy.
 

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Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Fuck them. Fuck the Americans. Fuck NATO. Fuck the Afghans.

BFF 4ever Taliban, right? :D

yeh, bush should've invaded pakistan istead of Iraq
 

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Originally posted by: Vonkhan
yeh, bush should've invaded pakistan istead of Iraq
How does Pakistan pose a threat to the US?
 

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Vonkhan
yeh, bush should've invaded pakistan istead of Iraq
How does Pakistan pose a threat to the US?

unstable country with nuclear bombs run by incompetents. also it holds militants that don't care about MAD and could lead the world into another war that could wipe out a good number of people.
 

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But But But, if we invade Pakistan and get ourselves into another quagmire, who can we then blame for the resulting failure? After all, we can't blame Saddam anymore, and heaven help us if we start running low on boogie men and boogie Countries, sooner or later we will have to look in a mirror to find one of the real root causes. And boys and girls, we can't have that, we would rather financially melt down first.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Vonkhan
yeh, bush should've invaded pakistan istead of Iraq
How does Pakistan pose a threat to the US?

unstable country with nuclear bombs run by incompetents. also it holds militants that don't care about MAD and could lead the world into another war that could wipe out a good number of people.
The US holds militants that don't care about MAD either, but just like in Pakistan, those militants aren't running the country.

How many wars has Pakistan started in its history (besides its war of independence)? How many wars has the US started?
 

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Originally posted by: Vonkhan
Originally posted by: The Green Bean
Fuck them. Fuck the Americans. Fuck NATO. Fuck the Afghans.

BFF 4ever Taliban, right? :D

yeh, bush should've invaded pakistan istead of Iraq

Not even Bush is willing to risk a billion deaths in India, Pakistan, and the region from nuclear fallout, not to mention the fallout of radiation to Russia and China which would bring World War 3, and even worse, the end of ATOT.



 

winnar111

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Vonkhan
yeh, bush should've invaded pakistan istead of Iraq
How does Pakistan pose a threat to the US?

unstable country with nuclear bombs run by incompetents. also it holds militants that don't care about MAD and could lead the world into another war that could wipe out a good number of people.
The US holds militants that don't care about MAD either, but just like in Pakistan, those militants aren't running the country.

How many wars has Pakistan started in its history (besides its war of independence)? How many wars has the US started?

Quite a few of them with India.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Vonkhan
yeh, bush should've invaded pakistan istead of Iraq
How does Pakistan pose a threat to the US?

unstable country with nuclear bombs run by incompetents. also it holds militants that don't care about MAD and could lead the world into another war that could wipe out a good number of people.
The US holds militants that don't care about MAD either, but just like in Pakistan, those militants aren't running the country.

How many wars has Pakistan started in its history (besides its war of independence)? How many wars has the US started?

Quite a few of them with India.
I'm sure if the UK and USA shared a border in 1776, instead of having an ocean dividing them, they would have had a few border skirmishes after their war as well.

Next.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Vonkhan
yeh, bush should've invaded pakistan istead of Iraq
How does Pakistan pose a threat to the US?

unstable country with nuclear bombs run by incompetents. also it holds militants that don't care about MAD and could lead the world into another war that could wipe out a good number of people.
The US holds militants that don't care about MAD either, but just like in Pakistan, those militants aren't running the country.

How many wars has Pakistan started in its history (besides its war of independence)? How many wars has the US started?

Quite a few of them with India.
I'm sure if the UK and USA shared a border in 1776, instead of having an ocean dividing them, they would have had a few border skirmishes after their war as well.

Next.


So are you going to cheer our beloved patriot incursions once your man is in office? He isnt going to stop them.....

I cant wait to see how some of the people react to the exact same issues in March.
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Vonkhan
yeh, bush should've invaded pakistan istead of Iraq
How does Pakistan pose a threat to the US?

unstable country with nuclear bombs run by incompetents. also it holds militants that don't care about MAD and could lead the world into another war that could wipe out a good number of people.
The US holds militants that don't care about MAD either, but just like in Pakistan, those militants aren't running the country.

How many wars has Pakistan started in its history (besides its war of independence)? How many wars has the US started?

Quite a few of them with India.
I'm sure if the UK and USA shared a border in 1776, instead of having an ocean dividing them, they would have had a few border skirmishes after their war as well.

Next.


So are you going to cheer our beloved patriot incursions once your man is in office? He isnt going to stop them.....

I cant wait to see how some of the people react to the exact same issues in March.
What else does your crystal ball predict?

And why are you on here making predictions instead of playing the lottery or the stock market?
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Vonkhan
yeh, bush should've invaded pakistan istead of Iraq
How does Pakistan pose a threat to the US?

unstable country with nuclear bombs run by incompetents. also it holds militants that don't care about MAD and could lead the world into another war that could wipe out a good number of people.
The US holds militants that don't care about MAD either, but just like in Pakistan, those militants aren't running the country.

How many wars has Pakistan started in its history (besides its war of independence)? How many wars has the US started?

Quite a few of them with India.
I'm sure if the UK and USA shared a border in 1776, instead of having an ocean dividing them, they would have had a few border skirmishes after their war as well.

Next.


So are you going to cheer our beloved patriot incursions once your man is in office? He isnt going to stop them.....

I cant wait to see how some of the people react to the exact same issues in March.
What else does your crystal ball predict?

And why are you on here making predictions instead of playing the lottery or the stock market?

So then you are going on the theory that Obama is going to stop the predator strikes? I would love to see what you have that would support that. Because I have proof that BHO is just as hawkish on AQ as everyone else outside of San Francisco.

Obama puts focus on al Qaeda after Pakistan bombing
By Aaron Blake

Posted: 09/20/08 05:39 PM [ET]

Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama said Saturday?s bombing of an Islamabad hotel shows that the United States must redouble its efforts against al Qaeda and affiliated terrorist organizations, as both he and GOP nominee John McCain called for collaboration with the new Pakistani government.
?As the attack earlier this week on our embassy in Yemen shows, over seven years after 9/11, the terrorist threat knows no borders, and the terrorists threaten innocent civilians of all religions and regions,? Sen. Obama (Ill.) stated. ?Now is the time to refocus our efforts on defeating al Qaeda and securing the American people.?

http://thehill.com/leading-the...ombing-2008-09-20.html


Do you even know your own candidate?




 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Vonkhan
yeh, bush should've invaded pakistan istead of Iraq
How does Pakistan pose a threat to the US?

unstable country with nuclear bombs run by incompetents. also it holds militants that don't care about MAD and could lead the world into another war that could wipe out a good number of people.
The US holds militants that don't care about MAD either, but just like in Pakistan, those militants aren't running the country.

How many wars has Pakistan started in its history (besides its war of independence)? How many wars has the US started?

Quite a few of them with India.
I'm sure if the UK and USA shared a border in 1776, instead of having an ocean dividing them, they would have had a few border skirmishes after their war as well.

Next.


So are you going to cheer our beloved patriot incursions once your man is in office? He isnt going to stop them.....

I cant wait to see how some of the people react to the exact same issues in March.
What else does your crystal ball predict?

And why are you on here making predictions instead of playing the lottery or the stock market?

So then you are going on the theory that Obama is going to stop the predator strikes? I would love to see what you have that would support that. Because I have proof that BHO is just as hawkish on AQ as everyone else outside of San Francisco.

Obama puts focus on al Qaeda after Pakistan bombing
By Aaron Blake

Posted: 09/20/08 05:39 PM [ET]

Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama said Saturday?s bombing of an Islamabad hotel shows that the United States must redouble its efforts against al Qaeda and affiliated terrorist organizations, as both he and GOP nominee John McCain called for collaboration with the new Pakistani government.
?As the attack earlier this week on our embassy in Yemen shows, over seven years after 9/11, the terrorist threat knows no borders, and the terrorists threaten innocent civilians of all religions and regions,? Sen. Obama (Ill.) stated. ?Now is the time to refocus our efforts on defeating al Qaeda and securing the American people.?

http://thehill.com/leading-the...ombing-2008-09-20.html


Do you even know your own candidate?
404: Invade Pakistan Not Found
 

OCGuy

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Or you could reply with an internet meme. At least it wasnt "lulz" or "roflcopter", or a link to lolcats.

"Invading Pakistan" isnt on the table. Im talking about the ongoing policy of using predators/Delta Force to act on intelligence and strike AQ hideouts in the tribal region.
 

piasabird

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When pakistan lets Al-qaeda operatives slip back and forth over the border, they become a terrorists state. Cut off all funding and tell them it was nice knowing you. Not much else we can do unless you are going to set up our troops along their border.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: jpeyton

I'm sure if the UK and USA shared a border in 1776, instead of having an ocean dividing them, they would have had a few border skirmishes after their war as well.

Next.

Are you making a joke? The British Empire and the United States shared a common border. And there were border skirmishes after the war as well.