Obama Infomercial Extravaganza '08

[Insomniator]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I missed the piece but I did witness the last 8 years of the greatest disaster in American history and our humiliating loss of respect in the world, brought to us entirely as a gift of the huge percentage of brainwashed fools who call themselves Republicans and knuckle drag themselves to the polls to vote for their Neanderthal candidates. Why don't you filthy country destroying bastards crawl back into your caves for a few years and harvest the mushrooms your shit should be producing in plenitude like anybody with an ounce of modesty and shame would do and let some intelligent and forward thinking people take over for a change. Your brain dead stupidity has ruined your country but you keep spouting and spouting it over and over again.

wow

 

[sportage]

All U Mccain supporters, come back here and discuss after Mccain starts taxing U health care, forces your employer to drop coverage, and you get your $5000 coupon in the mail to go healthcare shopping. Come back here and tell us all how wonderful Mccain is THEN.

You think someone over weight, high BP, history of cancer in the family, diabetes, or over 40 years old will find healthcare out there for $5000.... HEHEHEHEEeeeeee!!! Dream on kiddies.
If Mr healthcare provider knows you have $5000 in your pocket, the price has just gone up to $10000. Special deal just for U.

Go ahead... Like usual... vote against your better interest.

 

[chess9]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I missed the piece but I did witness the last 8 years of the greatest disaster in American history and our humiliating loss of respect in the world, brought to us entirely as a gift of the huge percentage of brainwashed fools who call themselves Republicans and knuckle drag themselves to the polls to vote for their Neanderthal candidates. Why don't you filthy country destroying bastards crawl back into your caves for a few years and harvest the mushrooms your shit should be producing in plenitude like anybody with an ounce of modesty and shame would do and let some intelligent and forward thinking people take over for a change. Your brain dead stupidity has ruined your country but you keep spouting and spouting it over and over again.

Ditto, but I'd give them healthcare while in their caves.


-Robert

 

[FuzzyBee]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: techs
Interesting to compare tonites Obama address with McCains campaign.
While McCain keeps smearing Obama, Obama went the entire half hour and never once mentioned McCains name.
Thumbs up for clean campaining, Barack
:thumbsup:

campaigning 101.

when you're ahead, you can afford to go positive.
when you're behind, you go negative or you give up.

and clean campaigning? come on, Barack's first gen-el ads were FUD targeted to seniors about how McCain was going to destroy their social security.

Critizing another candidates policies are not smear campaigning.

take his latest ad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3cKCl8tmb0

you think that's a positive ad?

At least ALL his ads aren't like that. "Clean" would seem to be a relative term, and I don't think you could make the argument that McCain has done a better job of that than Obama.

So, is this your admission that Obama hasn't run a clean campaign? Or is your definition of a "clean campaign" "not as dirty as the other guy's"?

I never claimed it was a black and white issue. I like it when a candidate runs a generally positive campaign, but I'm not going to say they're just as bad as the other guy when they run a few negative ads. Partial credit is worth a lot here, especially when the difference compared to the "other guy" is so stark.

A Campaign is either clean or it's not. Unless you runn a dirty, but not-as-dirty-as-the-other-guy campaign. Makes perfect sense.

What happened to real clean campaigns? I guess they've been rationalized away.

In English, I believe the word is called "cleaner", and it's generally preferable to "dirtier". Sure, if you were expecting a totally clean campaign, you might be disappointed. But I still think it's worth something to run a cleanER campaign than the other guy.

Wow. That's like having a state finish 49th in literacy. They're more literate than #50!

I guess you can rationalize everything.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
AP fact checks Obama's tv spot.

THE SPIN: "That's why my health care plan includes improving information technology, requires coverage for preventive care and pre-existing conditions and lowers health care costs for the typical family by $2,500 a year."
THE FACTS: His plan does not lower premiums by $2,500, or any set amount. Obama hopes that by spending $50 billion over five years on electronic medical records and by improving access to proven disease management programs, among other steps, consumers will end up saving money. He uses an optimistic analysis to suggest cost reductions in national health care spending could amount to the equivalent of $2,500 for a family of four. Many economists are skeptical those savings can be achieved, but even if they are, it's not a certainty that every dollar would be passed on to consumers in the form of lower premiums.
___
THE SPIN: "I also believe every American has a right to affordable health care."
THE FACTS: That belief should not be confused with a guarantee of health coverage for all. He makes no such promise. Obama hinted as much in the ad when he said about the problem of the uninsured: "I want to start doing something about it." He would mandate coverage for children but not adults. His program is aimed at making insurance more affordable by offering the choice of government-subsidized coverage similar to that in a plan for federal employees and other steps, including requiring larger employers to share costs of insuring workers.
___
THE SPIN: "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond their cost."
THE FACTS: Independent analysts say both Obama and Republican John McCain would deepen the deficit. The nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates Obama's policy proposals would add a net $428 billion to the deficit over four years ? and that analysis accepts the savings he claims from spending cuts. The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, whose other findings have been quoted approvingly by the Obama campaign, says: "Both John McCain and Barack Obama have proposed tax plans that would substantially increase the national debt over the next 10 years." The analysis goes on to say: "Neither candidate's plan would significantly increase economic growth unless offset by spending cuts or tax increases that the campaigns have not specified."
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THE SPIN: "Here's what I'll do. Cut taxes for every working family making less than $200,000 a year. Give businesses a tax credit for every new employee that they hire right here in the U.S. over the next two years and eliminate tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. Help homeowners who are making a good faith effort to pay their mortgages, by freezing foreclosures for 90 days. And just like after 9-11, we'll provide low-cost loans to help small businesses pay their workers and keep their doors open. "
THE FACTS: His proposals ? the tax cuts, the low-cost loans, the $15 billion a year he promises for alternative energy, and more ? cost money, and the country could be facing a record $1 trillion deficit next year. Indeed, Obama recently acknowledged ? although not in his commercial ? that: "The next president will have to scale back his agenda and some of his proposals."

More empty promises.

Yeppers. Definitely going to vote Palin/McCain, now that I know that they are going to keep their promises while Obama is just making empty promises.

Hey the Republicans offer 4 more years of the last 8 with a side order of Fundie Whackjob a heartbeat away from the Oval Office. No thank you!

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: SecPro

Originally posted by: BrownTown
Are people in this country really stupid enough to buy all the BS coming out of his mouth?

Yes, unfortunately, there are. I'll give you, i'll give you, I'll give you and I'll cut your taxes. Bulllllshittttt. But who am I to question THE MESSIAH.

It was a putrid piece of shit but when you've drank as much of the kool-aid as his cult has, you'll barely taste it.

Tell me how McCain's message is any different?

Even though he's run a horrible campaign on public money, he's gonna do much better when he's President.

Even though his campaign has been 75% negative and distortive of the facts, he going to restore value and integrity to Washington.

Even though he's been behind Bush 90% of the time, he's an agent of change and reform.

Even though he blasts Democrats left and right on the campaign trail and interviews, he's going to continue his legacy of "reaching across party lines."

Even though we haven't come an inch closer to finding OBL, he knows how to do, but has just been keeping it secret for himself.

Even though he chose a wet-behind-the-ears twit for his running-mate, and had given support for Joe "the should-be sterilized" Plumber, he's going to get the smartest people in the world into a big room to solve all our problems.

Even though he's gonna keep the current tax cuts for everyone, give more tax cuts to the wealthy, and freeze all government spending, he's somehow going to also increase education, provide aid to college students, fix social security, strengthen the military, give more money to the banks and auto-industries and buy all our houses, to boot!


Woohoo! They're both miracle workers! :roll:

:thumbsup: I didn't want this getting lost in all the crossfire. I would enjoy watching someone take crack at countering this.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: daniel49
I'm sure glad I mailed my ballot in.
Would have been a real drag standing in line behind 10 Mickey Mouses.

Well obviously! That is why Election Day is so close to Halloween. It takes quite an effort on the Dems part every four years to dress up the fraudulently registered homeless and drive them from precinct to precinct so they can vote. But we manage to pull it off. This year I will be driving the homeless from Detroit out to the west side of the state to vote in the heavily republican areas of Michigan. They will be dressing up and voting as different Doozers from Fraggle Rock.

 

[evident]

Originally posted by: Insomniator

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I missed the piece but I did witness the last 8 years of the greatest disaster in American history and our humiliating loss of respect in the world, brought to us entirely as a gift of the huge percentage of brainwashed fools who call themselves Republicans and knuckle drag themselves to the polls to vote for their Neanderthal candidates. Why don't you filthy country destroying bastards crawl back into your caves for a few years and harvest the mushrooms your shit should be producing in plenitude like anybody with an ounce of modesty and shame would do and let some intelligent and forward thinking people take over for a change. Your brain dead stupidity has ruined your country but you keep spouting and spouting it over and over again.

wow

what he said was 100% true. this country is in the shitter thanks to the "FUCK FRANCE YOU'RE WITH US OR AGAINST US MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" mentality

 

[mooseracing]

He should have ended it with.
"This message was brought to you by the fact that I lied when i said I was going to go the public financing route and not the private."

Or maybe he should have donated that money to the national debt he thinks he can lower.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I missed the piece but I did witness the last 8 years of the greatest disaster in American history and our humiliating loss of respect in the world, brought to us entirely as a gift of the huge percentage of brainwashed fools who call themselves Republicans and knuckle drag themselves to the polls to vote for their Neanderthal candidates. Why don't you filthy country destroying bastards crawl back into your caves for a few years and harvest the mushrooms your shit should be producing in plenitude like anybody with an ounce of modesty and shame would do and let some intelligent and forward thinking people take over for a change. Your brain dead stupidity has ruined your country but you keep spouting and spouting it over and over again.

"Don't mince words Bones, tell me what you really feel"

 

[jpeyton]

Ratings were really good; 26.3 million viewers on the major networks alone.

 

[Ozoned]

Obama before the election on the chaos of everyday living.

I feel your pain, I am going to soak the rich and cut wasteful government spending.
Obama after the election on the chaos of everyday living.

I feel your pain, I am going to soak the rich. Suffer Bitch.

 

[Jawo]

BO lying through his teeth according to the AP: http://www.breitbart.com/artic...44H6EO0&show_article=1

Surprise, Surprise, he's just another slimey politician who will say anything to be elected.....

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Jawo
BO lying through his teeth according to the AP: http://www.breitbart.com/artic...44H6EO0&show_article=1

Surprise, Surprise, he's just another slimey politician who will say anything to be elected.....

Well it certainly wasn't a ride on the Straight Talk Express.

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: daniel49
I'm sure glad I mailed my ballot in.
Would have been a real drag standing in line behind 10 Mickey Mouses.

Well obviously! That is why Election Day is so close to Halloween. It takes quite an effort on the Dems part every four years to dress up the fraudulently registered homeless and drive them from precinct to precinct so they can vote. But we manage to pull it off. This year I will be driving the homeless from Detroit out to the west side of the state to vote in the heavily republican areas of Michigan. They will be dressing up and voting as different Doozers from Fraggle Rock.

From what I have heard of Detroit, you shouldn't stand out at all?
don't know about west side of the state however.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: loki8481
campaigning 101.

when you're ahead, you can afford to go positive.

Yeah, DUH, just like LBJ did with Goldwater and Nixon did with McGovern . . . Oh, wait! :roll:

I guess those two master politicians didn't have the advantage of taking the same advanced campaigning classes as loki. :laugh:

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: loki8481
campaigning 101.

when you're ahead, you can afford to go positive.

Yeah, DUH, just like LBJ did with Goldwater and Nixon did with McGovern . . . Oh, wait! :roll:

I guess those two master politicians didn't have the advantage of taking the same advanced campaigning classes as loki. :laugh:

well, you "can" go positive. doesn't mean you have to

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: loki8481
campaigning 101.

when you're ahead, you can afford to go positive.

Yeah, DUH, just like LBJ did with Goldwater and Nixon did with McGovern . . . Oh, wait! :roll:

I guess those two master politicians didn't have the advantage of taking the same advanced campaigning classes as loki. :laugh:

well, you "can" go positive. doesn't mean you have to

Or that anyone ever really has, except in your febrile imagination. :roll:

Please don't forget that part when you take your "campaigning 101" make-up exam.

Edit: And don't even think of cribbing your answers off of little Johnny McCain. That boy ain't passing this class anytime soon. :laugh:

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Tell me how McCain's message is any different?

Even though he's run a horrible campaign on public money, he's gonna do much better when he's President.

Even though his campaign has been 75% negative and distortive of the facts, he going to restore value and integrity to Washington.

Even though he's been behind Bush 90% of the time, he's an agent of change and reform.

Even though he blasts Democrats left and right on the campaign trail and interviews, he's going to continue his legacy of "reaching across party lines."

Even though we haven't come an inch closer to finding OBL, he knows how to do, but has just been keeping it secret for himself.

Even though he chose a wet-behind-the-ears twit for his running-mate, and had given support for Joe "the should-be sterilized" Plumber, he's going to get the smartest people in the world into a big room to solve all our problems.

Even though he's gonna keep the current tax cuts for everyone, give more tax cuts to the wealthy, and freeze all government spending, he's somehow going to also increase education, provide aid to college students, fix social security, strengthen the military, give more money to the banks and auto-industries and buy all our houses, to boot!


Woohoo! They're both miracle workers! :roll:

:thumbsup: I didn't want this getting lost in all the crossfire. I would enjoy watching someone take crack at countering this.

As would I. I nominate the above for "Best Post in This Thread" ! :thumbsup:

 

[Ozoned]

Remember the white middle class married woman suffering from the chaos of everyday living? $1000.00 for her family. Now STFU bitch & quit whining.

How about the Black Career retired railroad worker that can't afford medicine for his wifes hands? $1000.00 for them. Not that anyone on a railroad pension really needs help, but STFU & quit whining.

And the White retired couple that lost 1/2 their retirement savings? $1000.00 for them. Well, you still got the other 1/2 but STFU & quit whining.

On a positive note, it looks like the guy living under the bridge is going to have a few more choices, or at the least have his roof repaired.