Obama: "I screwed up"

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Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Chris
So he stood behind Daschle Monday knowing the same info he did Tuesday only admitting he "screwed up" when it came out. Change? More like pulling out the Clinton playbook.
How so?

 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Chris
So he stood behind Daschle Monday knowing the same info he did Tuesday only admitting he "screwed up" when it came out. Change? More like pulling out the Clinton playbook.
How so?

Stop asking hard questions Red, you should know better.
 

dwell

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Chris
So he stood behind Daschle Monday knowing the same info he did Tuesday only admitting he "screwed up" when it came out. Change? More like pulling out the Clinton playbook.
How so?

Getting away with what he can as long as he's not caught.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
This 'I'm sorry' is a no brainer. Will he do it when the economy is still in the tank in 3 years? Will he do it if there is another terrorist attack? Will he do it if his call costs the lives of hundreds of troops?

Lets see what happens when he makes a REAL mistake. My guess he will point the finger at everyone but himself.
You mean like our last President did when all that happened?
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
This 'I'm sorry' is a no brainer. Will he do it when the economy is still in the tank in 3 years? Will he do it if there is another terrorist attack? Will he do it if his call costs the lives of hundreds of troops?

Lets see what happens when he makes a REAL mistake. My guess he will point the finger at everyone but himself.
You mean like our last President did when all that happened?

But Bush, amirite?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
This 'I'm sorry' is a no brainer. Will he do it when the economy is still in the tank in 3 years? Will he do it if there is another terrorist attack? Will he do it if his call costs the lives of hundreds of troops?

Lets see what happens when he makes a REAL mistake. My guess he will point the finger at everyone but himself.
You mean like our last President did when all that happened?

But Bush, amirite?
Fear Evil is being speculative, I'm being factual.

 

jman19

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Originally posted by: bamacre
I'd rather have a president who didn't "screw up" to begin with.

Where do you suppose we can find someone like that? :p
 

retrospooty

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
This 'I'm sorry' is a no brainer. Will he do it when the economy is still in the tank in 3 years? Will he do it if there is another terrorist attack? Will he do it if his call costs the lives of hundreds of troops?

Lets see what happens when he makes a REAL mistake. My guess he will point the finger at everyone but himself.

Where is Bush's apology? He got us here in the first place... :(

/edit - Never mind... I forget who I am dealing with... You know nothing, and understand even less.
 

Thump553

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It's absolutely refreshing to have a President with a personal sense of responsibility and accountability.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
This 'I'm sorry' is a no brainer. Will he do it when the economy is still in the tank in 3 years? Will he do it if there is another terrorist attack? Will he do it if his call costs the lives of hundreds of troops?

Lets see what happens when he makes a REAL mistake. My guess he will point the finger at everyone but himself.

Where is Bush's apology? He got us here in the first place... :(

/edit - Never mind... I forget who I am dealing with... You know nothing, and understand even less.

Oh look, another "But Bush".

For the last 8 years you couldn't mention Bill Clinton's name without a bunch of liberals screaming "BUT CLINTON ZOMG HAR HAR!!!". Enjoy.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
This 'I'm sorry' is a no brainer. Will he do it when the economy is still in the tank in 3 years? Will he do it if there is another terrorist attack? Will he do it if his call costs the lives of hundreds of troops?

Lets see what happens when he makes a REAL mistake. My guess he will point the finger at everyone but himself.
You mean like our last President did when all that happened?

But Bush, amirite?
Fear Evil is being speculative, I'm being factual.

It doesn't matter. According to all of the libs/Dems on this board, you are never allowed to bring up the previous administration.
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: bamacre
I'd rather have a president who didn't "screw up" to begin with.

Everyone makes mistakes including our president. The question is whether or not we are capable of admitting to them, fixing them, and learning from them. That is the kind of president I want.
 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: bamacre
I'd rather have a president who didn't "screw up" to begin with.

I'm sure your God-King Ron Paul never made a mistake. Except everything he says about economics, finance, politics, and life.

Well, I'm sure he's going to be apologizing a lot.

Talk to me when Greenspan apologizes for keeping interest rates too low for too long. Oh, yeah, let's blame Ron Paul for the war in Iraq, the unbalanced budgets, the Medicare and SS problems, the drug laws, am I forgetting anything? You want to blame him for the deregulation of the housing market, too?

Didn't we already prove that it wasn't really the interest rates? Ohhh, that's right, you ran from that thread like an ignorant chickenshit!

No, you just refused to acknowledge the significance of those low interest rates. Why continue when you refuse to face facts?

But keep blaming free markets when they didn't exist. It keeps me amused at times. It is funny. Especially because Ron Paul not only voted against, but also spoke up in opposition to the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which your boy Bill Clinton signed.

Of course now we are getting way off topic. Why exactly did you bring up Ron Paul in this thread? Trolling, trolling, trolling?


The interest rates were a portion, even a significant portion, but I'd put their influence at 20% at most, because low interest rates on their own couldn't have caused the problem.

LOL, the "free markets" did exist. The CDS market, and by and large, the derivatives market is "free".

"My buddy" Clinton? I rail against him too. Nice try at pigeonholing me though.

What did Ron Paul have to do? Well, you want to polish his knob and you somehow think that he's immune to mistakes, which is your highest standard for all people. I called out your standard as BS.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
This 'I'm sorry' is a no brainer. Will he do it when the economy is still in the tank in 3 years? Will he do it if there is another terrorist attack? Will he do it if his call costs the lives of hundreds of troops?

Lets see what happens when he makes a REAL mistake. My guess he will point the finger at everyone but himself.
You mean like our last President did when all that happened?

But Bush, amirite?
Fear Evil is being speculative, I'm being factual.

It doesn't matter. According to all of the libs/Dems on this board, you are never allowed to bring up the previous administration.
Oh I think when it's a barometer on how not to govern, as in Bushes case, it's perfectly fine.

 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: bamacre
I'd rather have a president who didn't "screw up" to begin with.

I'm sure your God-King Ron Paul never made a mistake. Except everything he says about economics, finance, politics, and life.

Well, I'm sure he's going to be apologizing a lot.

Talk to me when Greenspan apologizes for keeping interest rates too low for too long. Oh, yeah, let's blame Ron Paul for the war in Iraq, the unbalanced budgets, the Medicare and SS problems, the drug laws, am I forgetting anything? You want to blame him for the deregulation of the housing market, too?

Didn't we already prove that it wasn't really the interest rates? Ohhh, that's right, you ran from that thread like an ignorant chickenshit!

No, you just refused to acknowledge the significance of those low interest rates. Why continue when you refuse to face facts?

But keep blaming free markets when they didn't exist. It keeps me amused at times. It is funny. Especially because Ron Paul not only voted against, but also spoke up in opposition to the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which your boy Bill Clinton signed.

Of course now we are getting way off topic. Why exactly did you bring up Ron Paul in this thread? Trolling, trolling, trolling?


The interest rates were a portion, even a significant portion, but I'd put their influence at 20% at most, because low interest rates on their own couldn't have caused the problem.

LOL, the "free markets" did exist. The CDS market, and by and large, the derivatives market is "free".

"My buddy" Clinton? I rail against him too. Nice try at pigeonholing me though.

What did Ron Paul have to do? Well, you want to polish his knob and you somehow think that he's immune to mistakes, which is your highest standard for all people. I called out your standard as BS.

I didn't even mention RP, you did.
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
This 'I'm sorry' is a no brainer. Will he do it when the economy is still in the tank in 3 years? Will he do it if there is another terrorist attack? Will he do it if his call costs the lives of hundreds of troops?

Lets see what happens when he makes a REAL mistake. My guess he will point the finger at everyone but himself.
You mean like our last President did when all that happened?

But Bush, amirite?
Fear Evil is being speculative, I'm being factual.

It doesn't matter. According to all of the libs/Dems on this board, you are never allowed to bring up the previous administration.

Complete lie, as usual. You can't tell the difference between responding to an issue like Bush's illegal wiretapping with "Monicea Lewinsky!1!!1', and where it's actually relevant, such as when discussing free trade to note how NAFTA and other issues had policies pushed by Clinton, before Bush did his activities.
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: kage69
I can't believe someone is actually comparing Obama's reaction to this to what we saw with Bush after Katrina. On one hand we have a failure to vet a nominee, which was then promptly apologized for. On the other hand we have the worst domestic disaster in memory being augmented by the policies and decisions of someone who didn't seem to care an American city was drowning. The Bush admin played the blame game exactly the way they did immediately after 9/11, there is simply no corresponding effort on Obama's part. I don't understand the gravity some are trying to inject into this; no Americans died, no massive losses of taxpayers money, no infringements to the Bill of Rights, nothing.
I wonder if this had the more familiar Bush-era 'conflict of interest' theme to it the muckrakers would be less excited. Don't recall them being too worried about the first nod of Homeland Security having mob ties and an illegal alien employed in his own house.

Sorry, just seems like a weak attempt to invalidate a clear distinction from the previous administration.

Right-wing response: now that you mention it, you're right. Obama's is far worse.
 

JD50

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Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
This 'I'm sorry' is a no brainer. Will he do it when the economy is still in the tank in 3 years? Will he do it if there is another terrorist attack? Will he do it if his call costs the lives of hundreds of troops?

Lets see what happens when he makes a REAL mistake. My guess he will point the finger at everyone but himself.
You mean like our last President did when all that happened?

But Bush, amirite?
Fear Evil is being speculative, I'm being factual.

It doesn't matter. According to all of the libs/Dems on this board, you are never allowed to bring up the previous administration.

Complete lie, as usual. You can't tell the difference between responding to an issue like Bush's illegal wiretapping with "Monicea Lewinsky!1!!1', and where it's actually relevant, such as when discussing free trade to note how NAFTA and other issues had policies pushed by Clinton, before Bush did his activities.

Complete partisan bullshit, as usual. Go away Craig, no one was talking to you.

I was just giving Red Dawn a hard time, this is why I told you to stop responding to my posts, you're a tool.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: retrospooty
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
This 'I'm sorry' is a no brainer. Will he do it when the economy is still in the tank in 3 years? Will he do it if there is another terrorist attack? Will he do it if his call costs the lives of hundreds of troops?

Lets see what happens when he makes a REAL mistake. My guess he will point the finger at everyone but himself.

Where is Bush's apology? He got us here in the first place... :(

/edit - Never mind... I forget who I am dealing with... You know nothing, and understand even less.

Oh look, another "But Bush".

For the last 8 years you couldn't mention Bill Clinton's name without a bunch of liberals screaming "BUT CLINTON ZOMG HAR HAR!!!". Enjoy.

It's funny to hear your righties compare Clinton to GWB - as though their job performance was even close. I'd like to see an honest poll asking the worst president in history. Any guess who would score higher between Bill and W?
 

Budmantom

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I love the thinking on the left, the more "screw ups" Obama makes the better president he becomes.

He will soon be the best president this world has ever seen (if not already).
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
I love the thinking on the left, the more "screw ups" Obama makes the better president he becomes.

He will soon be the best president this world has ever seen (if not already).

Look, I know your Budmantom, and so I know you're just trolling/being stupid, but people aren't happy Obama screwed up. They are happy because he actually has the balls to admit it. The last administration was terrified of ever admitting they were wrong on anything, and it made them pathetically cling to horrible ideas long past their expiration date. Obama being able to admit he's wrong is a hopeful sign that he won't go down the same awful path.
 

dwell

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Originally posted by: Robor
It's funny to hear your righties compare Clinton to GWB - as though their job performance was even close. I'd like to see an honest poll asking the worst president in history. Any guess who would score higher between Bill and W?

Difference being, history will show one was impeached and the other just had a bunch of internet whiners wanting him impeached.