Obama: "I screwed up"

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spidey07

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Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Is he going to admit he screwed up when the bill for his pork package comes due?

He's got deniability - he let Pelosi command that clusterfuck. He knows how to play the game.
 

Farang

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: bamacre
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8az4CfEDpw

Yeah, he took responsibility, what a great president, what a great man he is.

That's not really an apology, not even close. Especially the way he parsed it before 'i take responsibility' garbage.

LOL, well if you want to get technical, saying "I screwed up" is an acknowledgment but short of an apology.

Sorry, I'm not really trying to be an ass here, just laughing at you for making a big deal out of the matter, that's all.

You seem to forget how long it took to get him to squeeze the one out. It took a lot.
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: bamacre
I'd rather have a president who didn't "screw up" to begin with.

I am guessing this will be the first of many times that he has to utter that phrase.
 

trenchfoot

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I guess I could be renditioned and waterboarded into believing that owning up to one's mistakes is a weakness and a sign of stupidity where Obama is concerned.

But then, at the same time I'd also have to be renditioned and severely tortured into believing that Bush JR. showed strength and competence by making HUGE screw-ups over and over and over again for eight years and then not owning up to any of it.

Wanting to have your cake and eating it too makes some people look about as blindly partisan and narrow-minded as Bush JR. is.
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Actually what he meant was that he's the man in charge so the fault lies with him. If that's incompetence then so be it, he's taki9ng responsibility for it. Now what determines whether he's going to be a good leader is if he capable from learning from his mistakes. Something his predecessor wasn't able to master.

If he can say that then I will have much more respect for BB as a leader. Because ultimately the buck stops with him and a true leader will say as much with no bus throwing going on.


Who the heck is BB?

 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: bamacre
I'd rather have a president who didn't "screw up" to begin with.

I'm sure your God-King Ron Paul never made a mistake. Except everything he says about economics, finance, politics, and life.

Well, I'm sure he's going to be apologizing a lot.
 

Ozoned

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Mar 22, 2004
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There is not 2 sets of rules.


From Dashels perspective Throwed under the bus, backed up and run over again. Good job Obama.
 

Eeezee

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Originally posted by: spidey07
If incompetence is "change" then that's what you are going to get. I learned how to hide my own incompetence by feigning ignorance and apologize. Makes my fucks ups acceptable for some reason.

That's after i threw somebody under the bus of course to make it seem like I wasn't really throwing them under the bus. Gotta give it to BB, he knows how to play the game.

Incompetence this minor IS a change after these last 8 years. I'd rather have a small slip-up than the ridiculous mistakes that Bush made time and time again. Not only did he never own up to his mistakes, but the Republicans pretend that they're achievements!

Bush bankrupting our country morally and financially is an example of incompetence. Barrack's minor mistakes that have no real impact on anything is just a consequence being human.

And who the hell is BB? Do you even know who we're talking about?
 

JEDIYoda

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Jul 13, 2005
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Originally posted by: Phokus
http://andrewsullivan.theatlan...009/02/he-said-it.html

It has taken Obama two weeks to say something that George W. Bush couldn't manage to say in eight years: "I screwed up." This is change we can really believe in.

Honesty and self reflection in Obama? NOT MY PRESIDENT!

It`s refreshing to have honesty in the wqhite House!!

When was the last time you heard GWB say he screwed up.....
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: bamacre
I'd rather have a president who didn't "screw up" to begin with.

I'm sure your God-King Ron Paul never made a mistake. Except everything he says about economics, finance, politics, and life.

Well, I'm sure he's going to be apologizing a lot.

Talk to me when Greenspan apologizes for keeping interest rates too low for too long. Oh, yeah, let's blame Ron Paul for the war in Iraq, the unbalanced budgets, the Medicare and SS problems, the drug laws, am I forgetting anything? You want to blame him for the deregulation of the housing market, too?
 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: bamacre
I'd rather have a president who didn't "screw up" to begin with.

I'm sure your God-King Ron Paul never made a mistake. Except everything he says about economics, finance, politics, and life.

Well, I'm sure he's going to be apologizing a lot.

Talk to me when Greenspan apologizes for keeping interest rates too low for too long. Oh, yeah, let's blame Ron Paul for the war in Iraq, the unbalanced budgets, the Medicare and SS problems, the drug laws, am I forgetting anything? You want to blame him for the deregulation of the housing market, too?

Didn't we already prove that it wasn't really the interest rates? Ohhh, that's right, you ran from that thread like an ignorant chickenshit!
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: bamacre
I'd rather have a president who didn't "screw up" to begin with.

I'm sure your God-King Ron Paul never made a mistake. Except everything he says about economics, finance, politics, and life.

Well, I'm sure he's going to be apologizing a lot.

Talk to me when Greenspan apologizes for keeping interest rates too low for too long. Oh, yeah, let's blame Ron Paul for the war in Iraq, the unbalanced budgets, the Medicare and SS problems, the drug laws, am I forgetting anything? You want to blame him for the deregulation of the housing market, too?

Didn't we already prove that it wasn't really the interest rates? Ohhh, that's right, you ran from that thread like an ignorant chickenshit!

No, you just refused to acknowledge the significance of those low interest rates. Why continue when you refuse to face facts?

But keep blaming free markets when they didn't exist. It keeps me amused at times. It is funny. Especially because Ron Paul not only voted against, but also spoke up in opposition to the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which your boy Bill Clinton signed.

Of course now we are getting way off topic. Why exactly did you bring up Ron Paul in this thread? Trolling, trolling, trolling?
 

Fear No Evil

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This 'I'm sorry' is a no brainer. Will he do it when the economy is still in the tank in 3 years? Will he do it if there is another terrorist attack? Will he do it if his call costs the lives of hundreds of troops?

Lets see what happens when he makes a REAL mistake. My guess he will point the finger at everyone but himself.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
This 'I'm sorry' is a no brainer. Will he do it when the economy is still in the tank in 3 years? Will he do it if there is another terrorist attack? Will he do it if his call costs the lives of hundreds of troops?

Lets see what happens when he makes a REAL mistake. My guess he will point the finger at everyone but himself.

Sadly you lack the insight to notice that what you think you see in others is who YOU are.
 

Moonbeam

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There are lots of assholes in the world and one of their characteristics is that they criticize people who don't acknowledge mistakes and those who do. Their real intention is to find some palliative for their own self hate. Everybody else is a piece of shit so I must be OK.

We know what a rotten apple does to the barrel but people have great talent in not noticing what garbage they are.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
This 'I'm sorry' is a no brainer. Will he do it when the economy is still in the tank in 3 years? Will he do it if there is another terrorist attack? Will he do it if his call costs the lives of hundreds of troops?

Lets see what happens when he makes a REAL mistake. My guess he will point the finger at everyone but himself.

Sadly you lack the insight to notice that what you think you see in others is who YOU are.

So you voted for Moonbeam for president?
 
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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
This 'I'm sorry' is a no brainer. Will he do it when the economy is still in the tank in 3 years? Will he do it if there is another terrorist attack? Will he do it if his call costs the lives of hundreds of troops?

Lets see what happens when he makes a REAL mistake. My guess he will point the finger at everyone but himself.

Sadly you lack the insight to notice that what you think you see in others is who YOU are.
Moonbeams reflect, but often very weakly.
 

IGBT

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Jul 16, 2001
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..mabe he needs to start smoking again. someone send him a carton of camels.
 

ericlp

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Originally posted by: bamacre
I'd rather have a president who didn't "screw up" to begin with.

you mean like bush?

But back to the thread. I enjoyed it. I think he should have apologized that would really bring a tear to my eye since... I think he is being level with us.
 

trenchfoot

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:D, an honest admittance of error on the part of Obama gets turned against him through the use of agenda driven assumptions, innuendo, partisan inspired incredulity and hyperbole.

What style, what grace, what panache, what openly unwarranted petulance. :laugh:

Eight years of this stuff will give me chronic Joker-style smile cramps and permanent hunched up sholders from stifling snickers.

Keep'um coming.:beer:
 
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Originally posted by: feralkid
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Actually what he meant was that he's the man in charge so the fault lies with him. If that's incompetence then so be it, he's taki9ng responsibility for it. Now what determines whether he's going to be a good leader is if he capable from learning from his mistakes. Something his predecessor wasn't able to master.

If he can say that then I will have much more respect for BB as a leader. Because ultimately the buck stops with him and a true leader will say as much with no bus throwing going on.


Who the heck is BB?

I've been trying to figure this one out. Anyone?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: feralkid
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Actually what he meant was that he's the man in charge so the fault lies with him. If that's incompetence then so be it, he's taki9ng responsibility for it. Now what determines whether he's going to be a good leader is if he capable from learning from his mistakes. Something his predecessor wasn't able to master.

If he can say that then I will have much more respect for BB as a leader. Because ultimately the buck stops with him and a true leader will say as much with no bus throwing going on.


Who the heck is BB?

I've been trying to figure this one out. Anyone?
Black Bush. It could be worse, he could call him Chicken George like the Freepers are doing.
 

dwell

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So he stood behind Daschle Monday knowing the same info he did Tuesday only admitting he "screwed up" when it came out. Change? More like pulling out the Clinton playbook.